Personally I think this whole debate about debates is ridiculous. Surely the voting public have a right to hear all arguments from all participants...since when does the media have the final say on who can or cannot participate? Sad days indeed
Here's a question. Previously when the sitting PM dissolved Parliament and called a General Election that was the starting gun for the various campaigns to begin.
What happens now that we have a fixed term Parliament? When do the Party Political Broadcasts start? etc.
Personally I think this whole debate about debates is ridiculous. Surely the voting public have a right to hear all arguments from all participants...since when does the media have the final say on who can or cannot participate? Sad days indeed
Go to a meeting and hear them speak, like we used to do.
I personally think the Green party are a bunch of Marxist nutters, but I still think they should be allowed to take part in the TV debate that UKIP will appear on.
Personally I think this whole debate about debates is ridiculous. Surely the voting public have a right to hear all arguments from all participants...since when does the media have the final say on who can or cannot participate? Sad days indeed
The debates are a terrible idea, the media are frothing about because it gives them something to show and sell advertising for.
But for democracy it is a poor day as it is just a popularity contest of little substance as shown by last time they did it.
Go to a meeting and hear them speak, like we used to do.
Not sure if ever there was a public meeting in the olden days where the party leaders debated which this is all about
Harking back to bygone days is not the answer
I personally think the Green party are a bunch of Marxist nutters, but I still think they should be allowed to take part in the TV debate that UKIP will appear on.
I agree, but Milliband and Clegg are petrified of them. The story will skew completely if the TV companies agree - Libs and Lab will start finding reasons not to take part.
Cameron is doing well here. A little embarrassment now and a lot of pain free time later
The debates are a terrible idea, the media are frothing about because it gives them something to show and sell advertising for.
But for democracy it is a poor day as it is just a popularity contest of little substance as shown by last time they did it.
I certainly would not disagree with this...but I think it can generally be applied to all politics these days. When was the last time a politician was actually forced to answer a question of substance? Never whilst a TV camera is rolling thats for sure
Not sure if ever there was a public meeting in the olden days where the party leaders debated which this is all about
Harking back to bygone days is not the answer
You do not go to a political rally and listen to your potential MP? A chance to question them in person?
You vote for an ideal and not the person representing you?
You do not go to a political rally and listen to your potential MP? A chance to question them in person?
You vote for an ideal and not the person representing you?
No I never have been to any political meeting during a GE campaign. Nothing to learn there and sitting about in a draughty hall listening to someone quote the party manifesto is not going to sway me one way or another I would imagine that 99% of the voters do not go to public meetings either. So many different ways to find out about politics these days.
No I never have been to any political meeting during a GE campaign. Nothing to learn there and sitting about in a draughty hall listening to someone quote the party manifesto is not going to sway me one way or another I would imagine that 99% of the voters do not go to public meetings either. So many different ways to find out about politics these days.
I'm not sure what Nicks said about it but didn't Ed say at PMQ's
"I will debate with anyone whom the broadcasters invite to debate." ?
Cameron just planted another seed.
It seems to work, exactly like it did against the Lib Dems immediately on power sharing.
Its what they do. People really do like to be told what to think.
I vote for a party who reflects most closely my ideals. Nothing wrong with that IMO Now if there is nothing else you want to know about my personal voting habits let us get back to the thread please.
I'm not sure what Nicks said about it but didn't Ed say at PMQ's
"I will debate with anyone whom the broadcasters invite to debate." ?
I roll over and let them tickle my tummy. Is a bloke who seriously expects folks to vote him as next PM saying that he will do exactly what the broadcasters tell him to do. Can you imagine him in negotiations with EU and organisations outside of UK? I will do whatever they tell me to do!
It is a debate organised by Ofcom. It is democracy and they have to set rules.
Can't Cameron match it by also choosing not to be on the election paper ?
Surely there has to be something about the ballot he does not like too?
That would be nice, what with us being on yet another 'Slippery Cameron' slope.
It is a debate organised by Ofcom. It is democracy and they have to set rules.
Can't Cameron match it by also choosing not to be on the election paper ?
Surely there has to be something about the ballot he does not like too, us being on that 'Slippery Cameron' slope.
No that is absolutely false at every level.
OFCOM have been asked to determine which political parties qualify as major parties, and as such should be afforded broadcast time for Party Political Broadcasts.
The various broadcasters ( BBC, Sky, iTV) are free to invite any and all for debates.
I roll over and let them tickle my tummy. Is a bloke who seriously expects folks to vote him as next PM saying that he will do exactly what the broadcasters tell him to do.
You're wrong, he's actually saying he isn't afraid to debate with anyone the broadcasters choose to take part in the debates ;-)
OFCOM have been asked to determine which political parties qualify as major parties, and as such should be afforded broadcast time for Party Political Broadcasts.
The various broadcasters ( BBC, Sky, iTV) are free to invite any and all for debates.
could we have not had a don't mind option? or a "it should be up to the TV companies and not any political party to decide who can or can not be represented"?
OFCOM have no say in who is invited to appear, or who appears at various Leaders debates. That is entirely up to the individual broadcasters.
OFCOM only get to say who are regarded as important with regard to the plethora of Party Political Broadcasts ( those 5 min segments we are going to be subjected to after the news).
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What happens now that we have a fixed term Parliament? When do the Party Political Broadcasts start? etc.
Go to a meeting and hear them speak, like we used to do.
The debates are a terrible idea, the media are frothing about because it gives them something to show and sell advertising for.
But for democracy it is a poor day as it is just a popularity contest of little substance as shown by last time they did it.
Labour
Conservative
Liberal Democrats
UKIP
The Green Party
SNP
This is as far as I know.
Not sure if ever there was a public meeting in the olden days where the party leaders debated which this is all about
Harking back to bygone days is not the answer
I agree, but Milliband and Clegg are petrified of them. The story will skew completely if the TV companies agree - Libs and Lab will start finding reasons not to take part.
Cameron is doing well here. A little embarrassment now and a lot of pain free time later
I certainly would not disagree with this...but I think it can generally be applied to all politics these days. When was the last time a politician was actually forced to answer a question of substance? Never whilst a TV camera is rolling thats for sure
You do not go to a political rally and listen to your potential MP? A chance to question them in person?
You vote for an ideal and not the person representing you?
No I never have been to any political meeting during a GE campaign. Nothing to learn there and sitting about in a draughty hall listening to someone quote the party manifesto is not going to sway me one way or another I would imagine that 99% of the voters do not go to public meetings either. So many different ways to find out about politics these days.
Fools.
I'm not sure what Nicks said about it but didn't Ed say at PMQ's
"I will debate with anyone whom the broadcasters invite to debate." ?
So you do not vote for a candidate?
It seems to work, exactly like it did against the Lib Dems immediately on power sharing.
Its what they do. People really do like to be told what to think.
I vote for a party who reflects most closely my ideals. Nothing wrong with that IMO Now if there is nothing else you want to know about my personal voting habits let us get back to the thread please.
I roll over and let them tickle my tummy. Is a bloke who seriously expects folks to vote him as next PM saying that he will do exactly what the broadcasters tell him to do. Can you imagine him in negotiations with EU and organisations outside of UK? I will do whatever they tell me to do!
Can't Cameron match it by also choosing not to be on the election paper ?
Surely there has to be something about the ballot he does not like too?
That would be nice, what with us being on yet another 'Slippery Cameron' slope.
No that is absolutely false at every level.
OFCOM have been asked to determine which political parties qualify as major parties, and as such should be afforded broadcast time for Party Political Broadcasts.
The various broadcasters ( BBC, Sky, iTV) are free to invite any and all for debates.
You're wrong, he's actually saying he isn't afraid to debate with anyone the broadcasters choose to take part in the debates ;-)
"Well he would say that wouldn't he?"
asked by who?
Government, this and previous.
OFCOM have no say in who is invited to appear, or who appears at various Leaders debates. That is entirely up to the individual broadcasters.
OFCOM only get to say who are regarded as important with regard to the plethora of Party Political Broadcasts ( those 5 min segments we are going to be subjected to after the news).
Vote for him and we then get next election as to who goes on the debate.
That makes for both 'EU in or out' and 'Name that panel'.
Oh, what a great leader he is!
:rolleyes: