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New playground to be ripped up because of noisy children

bryemycazbryemycaz Posts: 11,738
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A £75,000 playground in Wymondham, Norfolk could be ripped up. 5 weeks after being fitted due to complaints about noisy children.

http://www.edp24.co.uk/news/brand_new_equipment_at_75_000_playground_could_be_torn_down_following_complaints_about_noisy_children_1_3806725

those living next to the play area claim the noise levels and privacy issues have left them feeling like “prisoners” in their own homes. One resident said "That their dog was to afraid to go outside now because of the noise". Though it has always been a play area it seems to be after the new equipment was installed more people go there.

One of the problems seems to be in the evening when teenagers hang around but that could be dealt with by regular police patrols. Not to rip up the playgorund so the young children have nothing to play on
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    AndrueAndrue Posts: 23,366
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    I can understand that. We had a playground built on some spare ground near us. It had been an open grassy area that everyone could enjoy. Now during the summer we get a lot of kids there often leaving litter and sometimes quite noisy. But noise isn't the major issue. It's the parents bringing their little sprogs and parking their cars in the nearby streets. Most of them probably only drive for a minute to get there given that it's a small town. Such a wasted journey and then they make life difficult for us by clogging our roads, and parking on pavements.

    Quite a few park along here, despite the close proximity to a busy mini-roundabout and the narrow entrance to a road. And signs from the council saying 'No parking' not shown in Street View.

    In fact that view makes me quite nostalgic. That's how it was before they dropped the playground equipment on it (visible in the satellite view).
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    dee123dee123 Posts: 46,273
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    Terrible. Don't believe that bull about the dog either.

    >:( But not as terrible as the shopping center that ripped out it's playground and replaced it with a wall of i-Pads:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2014/09/23/guildford-mall-play-area-ipads_n_5870848.html
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    MrQuikeMrQuike Posts: 18,175
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    dee123 wrote: »
    Terrible. Don't believe that bull about the dog either.

    >:( But not as terrible as the shopping center that ripped out it's playground and replaced it with a wall of i-Pads:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2014/09/23/guildford-mall-play-area-ipads_n_5870848.html

    There is something very depressing about that.
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    morganb1611morganb1611 Posts: 458
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    £75,000 for a playground! I remember all the parents coming together to build one in my village, cost about £6000 if I recall correctly. It's still standing, exactly the same, 20 years later.

    It reminds me of complaints from a new housing estate also built in the village. Firstly they didn't like the what the Welsh name translated to in English - Swallows Bog. Then they started complaining the kids were to noisy in the school next door. :D Hearing children playing and having fun is great to hear.
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    Alan1981Alan1981 Posts: 5,416
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    I don't mind noisy children. The litter around the parks that they drop these days though is a different story. I see kids drop litter on the floor when they are literally 3 ft away from a bin. I don't know maybe they think it's cool
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    Aarghawasp!Aarghawasp! Posts: 6,205
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    Oh good grief. Some folk need to go live on a remote island where they don't have to encounter other human beings.
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    AndrueAndrue Posts: 23,366
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    Hearing children playing and having fun is great to hear.
    That's a matter of opinion.
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    nanscombenanscombe Posts: 16,588
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    Oh good grief. Some folk need to go live on a remote island where they don't have to encounter other human beings.

    Very true, they could make as much noise as they wanted without disturbing anyone.

    However, I don't think their parents would allow the children to be put on the island. :D
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    ShrikeShrike Posts: 16,608
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    Hearing children playing and having fun is great to hear.

    I suppose that depends on if you like kids or not;-)

    I've got a playground next to my garden and the little darlings can be quite noisy - the screams they often make can be quite blood curdling and if I didn't know its a playground I'd be expecting something quite nasty was going on:o
    It does look like the playground is very near houses, pity the council couldn't site it a bit further away and maybe some bushes/trees would help muffle the noise.
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    bluebladeblueblade Posts: 88,859
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    £75,000 for a playground! I remember all the parents coming together to build one in my village, cost about £6000 if I recall correctly. It's still standing, exactly the same, 20 years later.

    It reminds me of complaints from a new housing estate also built in the village. Firstly they didn't like the what the Welsh name translated to in English - Swallows Bog. Then they started complaining the kids were to noisy in the school next door. :DHearing children playing and having fun is great to hear.

    In your opinion. In mine they're a noisy bloody nuisance right by the back gardens of local residents. It's nice to sit out in your back garden in Summer, without having to hear screaming kids. I'm really glad I'm in a bungalow surrounded by mostly OAP's - peace :kitty:

    Call me a miserable killjoy if you want ;-)
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    jarryhackjarryhack Posts: 5,076
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    We had a park behind us. During the day it was fine, it's nice to hear the kids playing on a summers day. At night it was very different. A magnet for the underage drinkers. Weekends were the worst. Shouting, singing. fighting. gangs of kids swarmed to the place. They have built on it now. It's lovely and peaceful. Though I feel sorry for the kids having no park.
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    SupratadSupratad Posts: 10,450
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    £75,000 for a playground! I remember all the parents coming together to build one in my village, cost about £6000 if I recall correctly. It's still standing, exactly the same, 20 years later.

    That'll be because you designed something simple, tried and tested and went to a local timber merchant for the supplies.
    By the time a council has employed multi-disciplinary consultancy who sub-contract to a "play-space consultant", sourced equipment and materials from an approved, ISO 9002 framework contractor and carried out the necessary H&S audits, and everybody had their slice of mark-ups and risk-considered fee upscaling, suddenly that cost has rocketed...but...the way these things go now, it doesn't matter that a £6000 playground ended up costing £75,000 as long as the allocated budget of £75,500 wasn't exceeded then everyone involved has done a good job.
    nanscombe wrote: »
    Very true, they could make as much noise as they wanted without disturbing anyone.

    However, I don't think their parents would allow the children to be put on the island. :D

    I dunno, you could put them all on an island and let them sort out their own hierarchy, rules, games and system of governance. It all sounds quite exciting, in fact, I think it could be the basis for a really good novel. I'm getting started on that bad boy, get me a publisher on the line, this could be my fortune.
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    Watcher #1Watcher #1 Posts: 9,046
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    Some people must emerge, glistening and gooey, from a pod as a fully fledged grumpy old sod.

    Certainly, they were never children.
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    nobodyherenobodyhere Posts: 1,313
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    So we moan about the kids not being active enough in one breath, then in the next complain when they are actually aloud to get off their backsides and go play they are making too much noise
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    skp20040skp20040 Posts: 66,874
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    I can see there point if it is attracting noisy gorups at night time, but then you deal with that, you could put a fence round the pay area and have a warden lock it at nights or you have extra police patrols which will put them off. But you dont spoil it for everyone because of a few who the playgorund is not even for.

    I would also love to know how many people have always lived there and how many more recently who are complaining , I love how newcomers to an area move somewhere they know what is in place and then complain, like people who move next to an aiport then are surpised they can hear aircraft.
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    AndrueAndrue Posts: 23,366
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    Supratad wrote: »
    I dunno, you could put them all on an island and let them sort out their own hierarchy, rules, games and system of governance. It all sounds quite exciting, in fact, I think it could be the basis for a really good novel. I'm getting started on that bad boy, get me a publisher on the line, this could be my fortune.
    And think how much quieter DS would be if only the person holding the Conch shell could post :D
    nobodyhere wrote: »
    So we moan about the kids not being active enough in one breath, then in the next complain when they are actually aloud to get off their backsides and go play they are making too much noise
    Lol, yeah. Actually my objection is to the fact that I'd been living in my house for over ten years before the council plonked that play area there. They invited us to discuss it beforehand and we said "We're all concerned about the parking, some of us concerned about the noise and the litter".

    They promised to take our views onboard. Great :(
    skp20040 wrote: »
    I would also love to know how many people have always lived there and how many more recently who are complaining , I love how newcomers to an area move somewhere they know what is in place and then complain, like people who move next to an aiport then are surpised they can hear aircraft.
    Not the case for me. I've lived in that immediate area since 1999 and as Google Street View shows the play area was only put there a couple of years ago.
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    HogzillaHogzilla Posts: 24,116
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    Reminds me of the story about the school who had the local Barratt house residents up in arms when the kids dared to make a noise in their playground.
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    butterworthbutterworth Posts: 17,877
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    £75,000 for a playground! I remember all the parents coming together to build one in my village, cost about £6000 if I recall correctly. It's still standing, exactly the same, 20 years later.
    Supratad wrote: »
    That'll be because you designed something simple, tried and tested and went to a local timber merchant for the supplies.
    By the time a council has employed multi-disciplinary consultancy who sub-contract to a "play-space consultant", sourced equipment and materials from an approved, ISO 9002 framework contractor and carried out the necessary H&S audits, and everybody had their slice of mark-ups and risk-considered fee upscaling, suddenly that cost has rocketed...but...the way these things go now, it doesn't matter that a £6000 playground ended up costing £75,000 as long as the allocated budget of £75,500 wasn't exceeded then everyone involved has done a good job.
    .

    This, plus the fact that the all-new 'safety' rubber flooring will cost surprisingly more than you would ever imagine...
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    TheTruth1983TheTruth1983 Posts: 13,462
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    NIMBYs: don't you just love them?
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    whitecliffewhitecliffe Posts: 12,157
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    skp20040 wrote: »
    I can see there point if it is attracting noisy gorups at night time, but then you deal with that, you could put a fence round the pay area and have a warden lock it at nights or you have extra police patrols which will put them off. But you dont spoil it for everyone because of a few who the playgorund is not even for.

    I would also love to know how many people have always lived there and how many more recently who are complaining , I love how newcomers to an area move somewhere they know what is in place and then complain, like people who move next to an aiport then are surpised they can hear aircraft.

    The article mention the playground was only put in 6 weeks ago so not sure many would have moved in since then.

    For me this is one of my worse nightmare having had to move some years back due to noisy next door neighbours kids driving me to point of breakdown.
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    bryemycazbryemycaz Posts: 11,738
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    NIMBYs: don't you just love them?

    Indeed according to one of the posters on the EDP site. There was nearly a small supermarket built there instead of a Playground. I know which one I would have prefered. If they had decided to build the supermarket I doubt that the NIMBY's would have had a leg to stand on.
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    skp20040skp20040 Posts: 66,874
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    The article mention the playground was only put in 6 weeks ago so not sure many would have moved in since then.

    For me this is one of my worse nightmare having had to move some years back due to noisy next door neighbours kids driving me to point of breakdown.

    The new equipment was put in recently but it was a play area before
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    PorcupinePorcupine Posts: 25,250
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    I do feel for them.

    I live in the country and behind our houses was an empty field. The council decided to put football goals up and three items of playing equipment. I don't have kids, but I have no problem at all with children being children and laughing and playing. Its a joy to hear. I would rather them out playing than sat indoors playing video games.

    BUT, this play area attracted teenagers .... teenagers with mopeds. They would drive onto the play area on their bikes, take over the play equipment so kids couldn't use it, drop **** butts everywhere and litter. They then stay there all evening using the play area as a race track and having sex (and leaving used condoms lying around). Sometimes they wouldn't leave until 4am, screeching their bikes past the houses, shouting, revving and generally waking everyone up.

    Plus, I live next to the path leading to the play area. Its a narrow path between my house and an old club house next door, and driving their bikes up and down it is causing major wear and tear to the fence.

    I, along with many neighbours have complained. The police are patrolling more and they have seized various bikes as being illegal, but nothing more they can do.
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    TheTruth1983TheTruth1983 Posts: 13,462
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    bryemycaz wrote: »
    Indeed according to one of the posters on the EDP site. There was nearly a small supermarket built there instead of a Playground. I know which one I would have prefered. If they had decided to build the supermarket I doubt that the NIMBY's would have had a leg to stand on.

    Indeed, I would also prefer the playground. Somewhere for local children to play and socialise in the fresh air? We need more of that.
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    nanscombenanscombe Posts: 16,588
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    Andrue wrote: »
    And think how much quieter DS would be if only the person holding the Conch shell could post :DLol, yeah.

    Lordy, no flies on you. ;-)
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