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Companies House application advice please

bluewomble88bluewomble88 Posts: 2,860
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Hi

I want to register a new company with Companies House.
I am going to be building websites and charging for it. Just me, nothing special. Rather than do it cash in hand etc, I want to trade under a company name I've made up so everything is above board.

Anyway, look at this image of the application. I have absolutely no idea how to fill this page out. Can anyone offer some advice please?

Thanks in advance.

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    SaigoSaigo Posts: 7,893
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    Do the notes down the side not help? And clicking on the question marks?

    Easiest way is for shares to be £1 or whatever you use to open a company account. Just keep the text in the other box.

    Tbh, this is probably the easiest bit of running a company. Have you considered being properly self employed? You could still have a name.
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    Keefy-boyKeefy-boy Posts: 13,613
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    Let's say you want to form your company with £100 share capital.

    Pick class of share 'ordinary'
    Number of shares 100
    Amount paid up on each share £0
    Amount unpaid on each share £1
    Aggregate nominal value £100

    Don't change the prescribed particulars from the suggested one.

    This means you owe the company £100 for your shares, to be paid at any time in the future. You could do it with less, say £2, just substitute the different figure. For your purposes there's no real need to invest much in initial share capital, and all choices you make now can be changed in the future.
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    lozengerlozenger Posts: 4,881
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    I'm going with Saigo's advice - me and my husband are both self-employed, I work as a sole trader (photographer) - there is no need to set up a Company, it will give you all sorts of legal headaches - if you think that form is difficult then I doubt this is the best route for you.

    To register as self-employed you can start trading immediately, you just need to inform HMRC of your self-employed status within 3 months & keep a record of all transactions. You can trade as whatever name you like - (as long as it's not a registered / copywrited e.g. MacDonalds....!)

    Decide on your company name and include a footnote on all your invoices etc as 'yourname' trading as WebWomble.com' or whatever you want to call yourself. You can still create a brand/logo etc as WebWomble.

    My husband in comparison has set up a Limited Company (even tho it's only him) as the tax benefits work better for us this way - but I can tell you that his is 10 times more admin, Corporation Tax, he needs to hire accountants etc whereas I get by doing my own.
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    gemma-the-huskygemma-the-husky Posts: 18,116
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    Buy a suitable off the shelf company. If you have an accountant, I would talk to him. You will need a qualified accountant to certify your accounts anyway, I think.
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    Keefy-boyKeefy-boy Posts: 13,613
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    Buy a suitable off the shelf company. If you have an accountant, I would talk to him. You will need a qualified accountant to certify your accounts anyway, I think.
    Getting an accountant is good advice but you don't have to have one, small companies are exempt from audit requirements. Going direct to companies house is the cheapest way to form a limited company, if you go through an agent you're only paying for someone else to fill in the boxes
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    seacamseacam Posts: 21,364
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    Keefy-boy wrote: »
    Getting an accountant is good advice but you don't have to have one, small companies are exempt from audit requirements. Going direct to companies house is the cheapest way to form a limited company, if you go through an agent you're only paying for someone else to fill in the boxes
    Keefy that was great written explanations in your posts.

    But like gemma when I first read the OPs thread I thought just use a formation company, £60 to £80, all sorted.

    But before forming OP should make sure they own/register an email and web address that matches the company name.
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    gemma-the-huskygemma-the-husky Posts: 18,116
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    Keefy-boy wrote: »
    Getting an accountant is good advice but you don't have to have one, small companies are exempt from audit requirements. Going direct to companies house is the cheapest way to form a limited company, if you go through an agent you're only paying for someone else to fill in the boxes

    Didn't realise that. I thought accounts still had to be certified even if not audited.
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    seacamseacam Posts: 21,364
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    Didn't realise that. I thought accounts still had to be certified even if not audited.
    Yes they do, you can do your own accounts but they have to be certified by an accountant.

    But small companies don't need auditing.

    I'm not sure given the nature of the OPs venture why he wants to start of with a limited company.
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    Keefy-boyKeefy-boy Posts: 13,613
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    seacam wrote: »
    Yes they do, you can do your own accounts but they have to be certified by accountant.
    Sorry have to disagree, there is no statutory requirement for a limited company's accounts to be certified by an accountant, if the company is exempt from audit no accountant's stamp of approval is required. Good idea to avoid questions? For sure.
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    bluewomble88bluewomble88 Posts: 2,860
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    Thank you so much for all your replies.

    I'm so confused now though.

    I am in full time employment and I will remain so. However, I've been learning how to design and develop websites. I now want to make some money from this in my spare time at home on my Mac. However, I want to advertise my services in a professional way under a company name, not just my name. So, what do I do?

    For example, let's say I want to advertise myself as 123 Designs Ltd. Is it MANDATORY for me to register this company name with Companies House (assuming it isn't already taken)?
    If not, how do I make sure I am declaring my income and correct rates of tax?

    Thanks for reading.
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    seacamseacam Posts: 21,364
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    Keefy-boy wrote: »
    Sorry have to disagree, there is no statutory requirement for a limited company's accounts to be certified by an accountant, if the company is exempt from audit no accountant's stamp of approval is required. Good idea to avoid questions? For sure.
    Ok I am no expert in this field, I paid others to take these kind of worries on.

    But I have always thought a limited company free from audit still had to have accounts signed off by an accountant,---is this not the case?
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 5,383
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    Thank you so much for all your replies.

    I'm so confused now though.

    I am in full time employment and I will remain so. However, I've been learning how to design and develop websites. I now want to make some money from this in my spare time at home on my Mac. However, I want to advertise my services in a professional way under a company name, not just my name. So, what do I do?

    For example, let's say I want to advertise myself as 123 Designs Ltd. Is it MANDATORY for me to register this company name with Companies House (assuming it isn't already taken)?
    If not, how do I make sure I am declaring my income and correct rates of tax?

    Thanks for reading.

    Forming a Ltd Company just complicates things for you. Be self-employed for this work (and remain employed for your main job). Just tell HMRC (the "Tax Office") and fill in a self-assessment form each year where you declare your earnings. You are over thinking and over complicating things. You would effectively be "Fred Bloggs" trading as "123 Designs" (NOT a Ltd Company!)
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    davidmcndavidmcn Posts: 12,111
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    For example, let's say I want to advertise myself as 123 Designs Ltd. Is it MANDATORY for me to register this company name with Companies House (assuming it isn't already taken)?

    Yes, you can't pretend to be a limited company unless you are one.

    But first I think you need to work out whether you actually want to set up a limited company. And you seem to be getting confused between company names and trading names. You can be a sole trader (as explained above) and trade as "123 Designs". Legally you'll be "bluewomble88 trading as 123 Designs" and you'll pay Income Tax.
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    seacamseacam Posts: 21,364
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    Thank you so much for all your replies.

    I'm so confused now though.

    I am in full time employment and I will remain so. However, I've been learning how to design and develop websites. I now want to make some money from this in my spare time at home on my Mac. However, I want to advertise my services in a professional way under a company name, not just my name. So, what do I do?

    For example, let's say I want to advertise myself as 123 Designs Ltd. Is it MANDATORY for me to register this company name with Companies House (assuming it isn't already taken)?
    If not, how do I make sure I am declaring my income and correct rates of tax?

    Thanks for reading.
    Hi Blue,

    Listen I am not knowledgeable at all in this field but am wondering why the rush for a limited company?

    In any case if you don't own a limited company, legally you can't trade as one.

    You could register the name as a limited company but keep it dormant thus protecting the company name you have come up with.

    You will need to submit dormant company accounts each year but you can do this yourself online with no need for an accountant, the procedure is fairly straight forward.

    Now having done the above you could start off using your name but trading as 123 designs, ( but not using the words limited or company ).

    So long as no money or transactions go through the dormant company in other words dormant company doesn't trade, you will be fine doing this.

    As for paying tax, other liabilities, NI and so on you will effectively be self employed, how you go about paying those dues?---- you submit tax returns but there is more to it and you will require proper advise.

    As your business grows fire up the dormant company and start trading as 123 designs Ltd.

    This is only my opinion, you may feel you want to start straight off trading as a limited company.

    EDIT, and while Keefy is correct, I still think you should use a formation company if you are going down starting the limited company route.
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    Rick_DavisRick_Davis Posts: 1,104
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    BlueWomble,

    The advice given so far is both good and a little confusing in places. I started from a similar position as you, ie employed by another company and looking to make a little more in your spare time.

    I eventually stopped working for my employer when my business took off, and its the best thing I ever did. I'm not trying to put you off, but do it in small steps as tax and legals can be a pain in the arse.

    If you are currently employed and have no intention of stopping work tomorrow at 9am consider setting yourself up as a sole trader, or a partnership. There is absolutely need for you to jump to ltd company.

    setting yourself up as a Company LTD etc gives you the headache of submitting company accounts. You CAN set yourself up as a company and submit limited accounts if your profit is under a specific limit, but you would have to speak with your current employers as their PAYE will affect your own LTD taxaton.
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    HypnodiscHypnodisc Posts: 22,728
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    OP,

    You do not need to register a Ltd company. I would advise against this. I think it is just unnecessary for your sort of one-man-band business and over-complicates things with regard to money, paperwork and tax.

    You can register as a self-employed sole trader, pay your own N.I contributions and pick a trading name (although your name etc. needs to be on your receipts).

    Being registered as a self-employed sole trader is enough to legally trade, advertise your services 'XYZ Web Design.com etc' and get things like a business bank account.

    This is what most contractors, individual website designers, decorators, drivers etc do.
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    Keefy-boyKeefy-boy Posts: 13,613
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    Rick_Davis wrote: »
    you would have to speak with your current employers as their PAYE will affect your own LTD taxaton.
    If the OP has a ltd company it's nothing to do with their current employer, they are simply required to operate PAYE according to the tax code advised by HMRC.
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