So every adult website visited, the public have to give their card details? Right.
Like that's going to happen.
What about the foreign ones?
The vast majority are foreign, our ridiculous censorship laws make it difficult for UK based adult websites to compete.
It makes me laugh when he says "I want to see age restrictions put into place or these websites will face being shut down." Who the hell does he think he is by threatening to shut down websites which are not based in the UK? He has no such power, it's like these politicians think we're still living in the times when the British Empire was at its peak.
Out of interest what's this "package of regulation" idea of yours? .
ISPs could offer customers unrestricted access, unrestricted access at certain times, unrestricted access upon request (via a web forms).
Restricted sittes would be those with an adult content,
Those offering open VPN services.
Traffic via the "dark web" can be identified, even if the content can not.
It would be EXCATLY like china!!!>:(!!! Except you could simply opt out:)
Out of interest what's this "package of regulation" idea of yours? When you talk about the internet being outside of the law you're not really talking about anything different from the physical world. I'm sure none of us subscribe to the idea that the physical world is outside of the law yet we still have police forces and criminals, some people are bad no matter what you do. Makes no sense to be "regulating" (I know just what that word usually means) stuff left right and centre because of it.
Are you saying there should be no laws or regulation because in the real world people dont always abide by it?
Wouldn't a step in the right direction be to get parents to actually do their job and parent their children instead of thinking everyone else should do their job?
Not practical to watch over children while they are on the internet
If David Cameron and the Conservatives in general sound crazy these days it's only because they are not speaking to the whole general public but merely a subset of the general public.
This subset are somewhat disconnected from modernity and have "traditional" views.
A step in the right direction, but requires much more thought and should be part of a much bigger package of regulation. I have never subscribed to the idea that "the internet" is outside of the law.
So would you say The Golden Age of Wankbait is coming to and end ?
^_^
Bear in mind that if Cameron were to put ALL his stupid internet-related ideas into practice, none of these sites would be allowed to use encryption for those bank details either.
He won't, though, because none of them actually make any sense.
ISPs could offer customers unrestricted access, unrestricted access at certain times, unrestricted access upon request (via a web forms).
Restricted sittes would be those with an adult content,
Those offering open VPN services.
Traffic via the "dark web" can be identified, even if the content can not.
It would be EXCATLY like china!!!>:(!!! Except you could simply opt out:)
Until the first time they convict a paedo/terrorist who opted out of all that, then it's "well we now realize criminals will opt out so unfortunately as we can't trust you all we need to make this compulsory". Why should VPN's be banned, I rely on them for day to day use, for privacy, and to access geo-restricted content on services like Netflix. Also any real attempt to ban stuff on the web often ends up in a game of whack a mole. You ban VPN's, they use TOR. You ban TOR, they use TOR bridges.
Not practical to watch over children while they are on the internet
Yes it is! The parent does their bloody job and restricts the child's internet use and supervises them whilst they are on it.
Typical of todays weak parenting where they do sod all and then expect everyone else to do their job. It is no one else's responsibility and it's that sort of thinking that should be looked at and changed with serious consequences for irresponsible parents.
Then don't allow them internet access if you aren't capable of being a responsible parent.
Exactly! Today's parents should be fined for their total irresponsible behaviour.
Then they have the nerve to say that all problems are everyone else's.
One option is to set up an independent regulator which could force internet service providers (ISPs) to block offending sites under the threat of fines.
Not going to happen, look how well they blocked access to various torrent sites, a quick click on something like Browsec bypasses the UK ISP blocks and gives you access to torrents that also has Porn on them.
Yes it is! The parent does their bloody job and restricts the child's internet use and supervises them whilst they are on it.
Typical of todays weak parenting where they do sod all and then expect everyone else to do their job. It is no one else's responsibility and it's that sort of thinking that should be looked at and changed with serious consequences for irresponsible parents.
That would have been difficult enough in the 90s, but that is much harder now with all the many ways to access the internet with tablets, smartphones, smart tv, games consoles etc..
How is a parent supposed to supervise their child whilst they are using a smartphone when the whole point of one is being able to take it anywhere.
Does this buffoon even use the internet? His increasingly erratic speeches suggest not. I've long thought that he is suffering some kind of stress induced breakdown because he quite clearly isnt "all there".
I suspect all he's doing is making all the right noises to try and keep parents happy. He's going mad since his party won a majority. There'll probably be loads of complaints if this gets put in place. What the hell's he playing at? Isn't his porn filter enough?
Who the **** actually pays for porn from these sites anyway?
Hardly anyone I should think. But that is not what this proposal is about, our dear Prime Minister wants this to apply to all porn sites, paid for and free.
That would have been difficult enough in the 90s, but that is much harder now with all the many ways to access the internet with tablets, smartphones, smart tv, games consoles etc..
How is a parent supposed to supervise their child whilst they are using a smartphone when the whole point of one is being able to take it anywhere.
Don't give them any internet enabled device before you are sure they can be trusted with it. Obvious.
That would have been difficult enough in the 90s, but that is much harder now with all the many ways to access the internet with tablets, smartphones, smart tv, games consoles etc..
How is a parent supposed to supervise their child whilst they are using a smartphone when the whole point of one is being able to take it anywhere.
The already available content blockers for home broadband and mobile phones?
I am an adult and adult content is blocked on my phone, I could turn it off but I have no need to.
I shouldn't have to have mamdatory blocks on my broadband because some parents can't be ar5ed to turn on the content blockers.
Not that dodgy dave's plans will work, unless sites that don't comply are censored, and that is a very dangerous path (for us, the end user) to go down.
Once censorship is seen as acceptable by the public, more and more websites will be.
Until the first time they convict a paedo/terrorist who opted out of all that, then it's "well we now realize criminals will opt out so unfortunately as we can't trust you all we need to make this compulsory". .
Why should VPN's be banned, I rely on them for day to day use, for privacy, and to access geo-restricted content on services like Netflix. Also any real attempt to ban stuff on the web often ends up in a game of whack a mole. You ban VPN's, they use TOR. You ban TOR, they use TOR bridges.
Yes it is! The parent does their bloody job and restricts the child's internet use and supervises them whilst they are on it.
Typical of todays weak parenting where they do sod all and then expect everyone else to do their job. It is no one else's responsibility and it's that sort of thinking that should be looked at and changed with serious consequences for irresponsible parents.
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The vast majority are foreign, our ridiculous censorship laws make it difficult for UK based adult websites to compete.
It makes me laugh when he says "I want to see age restrictions put into place or these websites will face being shut down." Who the hell does he think he is by threatening to shut down websites which are not based in the UK? He has no such power, it's like these politicians think we're still living in the times when the British Empire was at its peak.
ISPs could offer customers unrestricted access, unrestricted access at certain times, unrestricted access upon request (via a web forms).
Restricted sittes would be those with an adult content,
Those offering open VPN services.
Traffic via the "dark web" can be identified, even if the content can not.
It would be EXCATLY like china!!!>:(!!! Except you could simply opt out:)
Are you saying there should be no laws or regulation because in the real world people dont always abide by it?
This subset are somewhat disconnected from modernity and have "traditional" views.
^_^
He won't, though, because none of them actually make any sense.
Until the first time they convict a paedo/terrorist who opted out of all that, then it's "well we now realize criminals will opt out so unfortunately as we can't trust you all we need to make this compulsory". Why should VPN's be banned, I rely on them for day to day use, for privacy, and to access geo-restricted content on services like Netflix. Also any real attempt to ban stuff on the web often ends up in a game of whack a mole. You ban VPN's, they use TOR. You ban TOR, they use TOR bridges.
Then don't allow them internet access if you aren't capable of being a responsible parent.
Yes it is! The parent does their bloody job and restricts the child's internet use and supervises them whilst they are on it.
Typical of todays weak parenting where they do sod all and then expect everyone else to do their job. It is no one else's responsibility and it's that sort of thinking that should be looked at and changed with serious consequences for irresponsible parents.
Exactly! Today's parents should be fined for their total irresponsible behaviour.
Then they have the nerve to say that all problems are everyone else's.
The golden age of trololo hasn't quite drawn to a close yet...
Not going to happen, look how well they blocked access to various torrent sites, a quick click on something like Browsec bypasses the UK ISP blocks and gives you access to torrents that also has Porn on them.
That would have been difficult enough in the 90s, but that is much harder now with all the many ways to access the internet with tablets, smartphones, smart tv, games consoles etc..
How is a parent supposed to supervise their child whilst they are using a smartphone when the whole point of one is being able to take it anywhere.
I suspect all he's doing is making all the right noises to try and keep parents happy. He's going mad since his party won a majority. There'll probably be loads of complaints if this gets put in place. What the hell's he playing at? Isn't his porn filter enough?
I am delighted to see that our MPs are taking this matter in hand and working at it by carrying out extensive research into the subject.
Don't give them one before they're a teenager?
Hardly anyone I should think. But that is not what this proposal is about, our dear Prime Minister wants this to apply to all porn sites, paid for and free.
Don't give them any internet enabled device before you are sure they can be trusted with it. Obvious.
I am an adult and adult content is blocked on my phone, I could turn it off but I have no need to.
I shouldn't have to have mamdatory blocks on my broadband because some parents can't be ar5ed to turn on the content blockers.
Not that dodgy dave's plans will work, unless sites that don't comply are censored, and that is a very dangerous path (for us, the end user) to go down.
Once censorship is seen as acceptable by the public, more and more websites will be.
Nothing will be banned.
Not practical.
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