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Steve's mum and his supposed family.
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It's been played for laughs over the years, but they really are utter scum to that guy. Hope this storyline opens a few eyes.
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In fairness to them they don't know what the problem is and Steve has been feckless and irresponsible many times over the years.
The strenght of this is that it beautifully shows how difficult it is for someone who people expect to be a jack-the-lad to confront his depression
I don't think they've really tried to find out what the problem is. The only reason they ask is because he's not done a particular errand/duty. It's more of an employer-employee relationship than a loving one.
If they knew what the problem is
They'd treat him well
And then revert to type
One has to go..
Aw nuts, I dearly wanted to be the person who started this thread. I was going to start it off by saying, thank God............I don't have Steve's 'Ma' as a mother.
Flipping hell that was rough tonight, Liz McDonald can't even spot when her own child is distressed and down in the dumps. I mean what's supposed to be going on in her tatty head? Mice making nests?
She seems to have much more time and sympathy for Moochelle for God sakes.
Just more dismal, mindless and insulting dross from Corrie. Well done/
Get the feeling they don't think much of mums a lot of the time.:(
But i was shouting at the screen during that last scene with Liz. Steve asked to speak to her alone and she just berated him in public. Surely she must see that there is nore to this than him just being irresponsible.
It does highlight how difficult it is to talk to people. Telling my parents i'd been diagnosed was one of the hardest things I've ever had to do and they of course had experience of it. You feel such a failure that you can't controll your own mental well being which of course makes the depression worse.
Exactly.
I was seething after watching that scene and it made for uncomfortable viewing.
What the heck is wrong with these people??
Liz was horrible and so was miss foldy arms with her snidey remarks Steve looked like he was drowning and the only people to notice that something might be wrong were Lloyd and Andrea.
They haven't but that's the point. We know Liz loves Steve. Time and again he's been ducking and diving and telling lies to cover his tracks.
This shows just how difficult it can be for people to alert family members of depression
This is exactly what I mean. How many of us have been shocked when a friend told us of their depression and we were shocked because we had no idea... yet in hindsight.
I expect Liz will feel very guilty. In some was she should but in other ways she shouldn't. She's not a doctor and has no experience of depression.
Watching it what struck me was how Bev Callard must feel playing it given her own experience.
Liz didn't have to spot that Steve had depression, she just had to recognise that her own son looked desperate and was crying out for help like any other mum at all worth her salt would do.
People usually as close as a parent and child can read each other much quicker than this. instead of running on and on like a insensate, mindless automaton. Or is that not everyone's experience?
Liz actually lives with Steve also and still the penny hasn't dropped apparently that he has become monosyllabic and morose and switched off. She comes across as a mother that doesn't seem to care. The relationship between them is abysmal and they aren't like a real mother and son.
When he's been telling lies before (to be honest, the only time I can recall is when he lied about going to college), he was still warm with people. This time, he's aloof. For me, the hallmark of Steve is his approachability. He's anything but approachable at the moment. Even if Liz doesn't possess the knowledge to make a self-diagnosis of depression, she should recognise that this is a different situation to anything that's come before and act accordingly i.e. with caution. She should not be going in all guns blazing like she normally would, e.g. if he was lying about hiding in the bookies when he should be cooking dinner.
It doesn't matter. The damage has been done
She'll be back nagging him again
He has lied and lied and lied from business dealings, to affairs to criminality. He's no angel and that's the strength of this story.
Liz could be more thoughtful but when has she ever been. She has always been a shout first think later passionate woman. It's her flaw in many ways. She always recognised a gentle side to Andy that she admired.
Get a grip. Nagging does not cause depression.
He's a grown man and Liz cannot be expected to diagnose him. Many people shock those closest to them to the core when they reveal their depression... jokers the most.
I agree.
She just seems cold towards Steve and I'm sure she didn't used to be like this.
Time and again great and dedicated Mums don't see their child's depression.
It's not so black and white!
Her reaction was typical passionate Liz - nothing cold about it. She's frustrated with Steve because she doesn't realise what's going on
She seems awfully concerned with how Michelle's feeling.
I take your point about Steve's history of lying but I still agree with AndreaMC. Liz is his mum at the end of the day. If a headstrong woman like Liz can't even rein it in when it's her own son she's dealing with, well, god help Steve.
on the contrary Simon Gregson has been terrific, from his sullenness to the brief respite from the kind gesture of his daughter. A great representation (so far).
I found her cold and she shows a lot more warmth towards Michelle......
She has never, ever reigned it in when dealing with Steve or Jim. This is Liz McDonald for goodness sake!
You're wrong. She wasn't cold.
Well, she should.