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Some JSA Claimants now do not have to see an advisor
Madamfluff
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Just been with a friend who visited me after she signed on today.
She has been on JSA since March this year and has been signing on and seeing an advisor every two weeks.
She was told today that claimants who have shown that they are actively seeking work and can be trusted to 'self job seek' as her advisor put it, no longer have to sign on in the traditional way.
She has been given three sets of forms to enter her job searches and these will cover the next 6 weeks, every two weeks for the first 4 weeks all she has to do is to drop the forms at the JC reception, only after the last set of forms are completed will she have a traditional interview with an advisor. I have seen the forms and all she has to do is to drop them off between 10-11 on a particular day with an actual time and date for interview only on the last form.
With the government apparently trying to clamp down on the work shy with sanctions for those not seeking work, I am surprised that they are just taking some peoples word that they are looking for work.
She has been on JSA since March this year and has been signing on and seeing an advisor every two weeks.
She was told today that claimants who have shown that they are actively seeking work and can be trusted to 'self job seek' as her advisor put it, no longer have to sign on in the traditional way.
She has been given three sets of forms to enter her job searches and these will cover the next 6 weeks, every two weeks for the first 4 weeks all she has to do is to drop the forms at the JC reception, only after the last set of forms are completed will she have a traditional interview with an advisor. I have seen the forms and all she has to do is to drop them off between 10-11 on a particular day with an actual time and date for interview only on the last form.
With the government apparently trying to clamp down on the work shy with sanctions for those not seeking work, I am surprised that they are just taking some peoples word that they are looking for work.
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Never again will i go back there.
To the op, people could just lie to the adviser's face and said they looked. Where is the difference in putting the things in the box?
Thats the point I am trying to make, someone could lie to an advisor and make them believe they are looking for work, and because of those lies are then put on this new scheme as they are trusted to self job seek due to the advisor believing the lies
Still with all this talk of people exiting the Work Program, having to visit the Job Centre, 5 days a week, room has to be made for that to happen.
People can lie no matter what. There's no way that they're going to ring all those employers to check. Employers won't like that, anyway. Most of all this is just smoke and mirrors to appease the benefit system bashing brigade. Anyone, with any sense knows that they can only go so far.
2 with a copy of a P45.
The other one with my name and address at the top........
And bugger all else,a blank piece of paper!
They are bliddy useless! How much tax payers money do they waste?
Its why I have in the past said, to ALWAYS apply for those jobs, even if you are given you are unqualified for.
Still its been a while since the Job Centre even tried to give me a job (also employment) so that may have changed, but staffing cuts, mean its less likely to happen, not more.
I suspect the Job Centre, calling to check someone had applied for a job, would see that application form, go in the bin, as it suggests, the Job Centre was the reason they applied, not because they wanted the job for themselves.
The Job Centre know this.
This.
They either don't check at all, or just ask (and anyone can say anything). They certainly don't do any actual checking behind the claimants back, regardless of the way they sign on. They don't have the time or resources to check!
So what difference does it make?
They either lie on the form, or in person.
At least lying on the form saves time. The problem is we have so many unemployed people that the Jobcentres are stretched to bursting - it's no wonder they have this scheme.
Besides which, it's only a small minority claiming JSA and not looking for work. It's hardly a big problem. Benefit fraud is at an all time low.