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What is it about Christianity and Islam which turns some people into extremist nuts?

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    Lil_MLil_M Posts: 2,105
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    So what? Britain is, historically, a Christian country. It's not as though other religions are persecuted, quite the opposite.

    Many here argue that Catholics, Muslims, Jews are suffering from persecution. Though, there is some truth, it isn't anything like the USA, Burma, Israel etc...
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    alan29alan29 Posts: 34,639
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    AZZURRI 06 wrote: »
    Don`t let the facts get in the way here, as far as the majority of British people are concerned the IRA were fighting to make the Hail Mary compulsory. :confused:

    That just demonstrates how majorities take the line of least thought when it comes to complex matters.
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    AZZURRI 06AZZURRI 06 Posts: 11,173
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    anne_666 wrote: »
    I was born in the late 1940's and believe me Catholics were regarded as second class citizens in this country.

    Of course.
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    GeneralissimoGeneralissimo Posts: 6,289
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    AZZURRI 06 wrote: »
    Wrong. Catholics are banned from becoming Head Of State and before you say it would not make sense for a non C of E person to be head of that church, the law does not prohibit Jews or Muslims. That is why Britain needs to move into the modern world.

    How many people, are ever likely to become head of state? Such laws affect 0.00000001% of the population.
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    AZZURRI 06AZZURRI 06 Posts: 11,173
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    alan29 wrote: »
    That just demonstrates how majorities take the line of least thought when it comes to complex matters.

    I find British people can be placed in one of three camps on Irish affairs.
    1. Ex British army members who saw their mate being shot or blown up and bear a grudge to this day.
    2. Those with some Irish or Scottish connection, Glasgow Rangers fans who have their own axe to grind. Quite literally.
    3. The vast majority, what I call mushroom people, kept in the dark and fed, well you know what I mean.
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    Lil_MLil_M Posts: 2,105
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    Let's examine the rights of gay people and women in the countries you mention, shall we?

    You discussed about women driving and not women rights.

    If you wish to discuss a wider topic on women right, then so be it.

    I could argue tit for tat that countries like Bangladesh, Pakistan etc.... have elected women leaders; something that is missing in most western countries. Eventually I would be on losing ground and generally will come off as a troll.

    And that would be ridiculous and I do accept that those countries have poor women rights.

    Women Rights in Britain is a lot better but needs to go some way further. They are still discriminated against.
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    anne_666anne_666 Posts: 72,891
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    How many people, are ever likely to become head of state? Such laws affect 0.00000001% of the population.

    It led to persecution of Catholic people for centuries, is more the point.
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    Lil_MLil_M Posts: 2,105
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    How many people, are ever likely to become head of state? Such laws affect 0.00000001% of the population.
    And?

    We could have the most amazing person who would be absolutely brilliant and s/he can't become a head of state because of her Catholicism. Such laws needs removing.
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    anne_666anne_666 Posts: 72,891
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    Lil_M wrote: »
    And?

    We could have the most amazing person who would be absolutely brilliant and s/he can't become a head of state because of her Catholicism. Such laws needs removing.

    If Royalty wanted to marry a Catholic nowadays, believe me the law would change. We have the future King now married to a divorcee, previously unheard of! That's the power Royalty still hold.

    Edward the 8th was forced to advocate and live in isolation from the country and the lot of them.
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    Lil_MLil_M Posts: 2,105
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    anne_666 wrote: »
    If Royalty wanted to marry a Catholic nowadays, believe me the law would change. We have the future King now married to a divorcee, previously unheard of!

    Which future king? sorry don't know who tbh.

    It should be changed now, not when some Royal falls in love.
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    GeneralissimoGeneralissimo Posts: 6,289
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    Lil_M wrote: »
    And?

    We could have the most amazing person who would be absolutely brilliant and s/he can't become a head of state because of her Catholicism. Such laws needs removing.

    They would far more likely be denied due to, I don't know, not being royal?
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    Lil_MLil_M Posts: 2,105
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    They would far more likely be denied due to, I don't know, not being royal?

    Bring up a whole another thread. One for Republicans and Monarchists.
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    anne_666anne_666 Posts: 72,891
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    Lil_M wrote: »
    Which future king? sorry don't know who tbh.

    It should be changed now, not when some Royal falls in love.

    Our future King, Prince Charles.
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    Lil_MLil_M Posts: 2,105
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    anne_666 wrote: »
    Our future King, Prince Charles.

    oh right.
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    anne_666anne_666 Posts: 72,891
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    They would far more likely be denied due to, I don't know, not being royal?

    Kate Middleton is a commoner. I wonder what the attitude would have been of she'd been Catholic too! :D

    Still one step at a time, over centuries, for Royalty is all we can expect ey?

    At least the search for a suitable Aristocratic/Royal virgin is off.
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    exlordlucanexlordlucan Posts: 35,375
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    Lil_M wrote: »
    Which future king? sorry don't know who tbh.

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    Charles, Prince of Wales and heir apparent of Queen Elizabeth but you knew that anyway.
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    JurassicMarkJurassicMark Posts: 12,871
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    As others have said, those who become religious seem to leave all reason, common sense and rationality behind.

    Favouring faith over evidence is very dangerous, as this story demonstrates.

    Snippet from article:
    That boy, a two-year-old named Kent, died after the Schaibles refused to take him to the doctor when he became sick, relying instead on faith and prayer. The couple were convicted of involuntary manslaughter and sentenced to 10 years on probation.

    In the latest tragedy, they told police that they prayed for God to heal Brandon instead of taking him to a doctor when he fell ill. Officials said that an autopsy will be performed on the child, and depending on those results the parents may be charged with a crime.

    The couple attend, and have taught at, Philadelphia’s First Century Gospel Church, which cites Biblical scripture favoring prayer and faith over modern medicine. Other religions, including Followers of Christ Church, Christian Scientists, and Scientology, have doctrines that prohibit or discourage modern medicine and therapeutic interventions.

    Blindly following their religious beliefs resulted in the death of TWO of their children.

    Reason, rationality and common sense: 0 out of 10
    Faith: 10 out of 10

    These people may not walk around with bombs in their rucksacks, but they are extremist nuts in my book.
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    anne_666anne_666 Posts: 72,891
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    As others have said, those who become religious seem to leave all reason, common sense and rationality behind.

    Favouring faith over evidence is very dangerous, as this story demonstrates.

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    Blindly following their religious beliefs resulted in the death of TWO of their children.

    Reason, rationality and common sense: 0 out of 10
    Faith: 10 out of 10

    These people may not walk around with bombs in their rucksacks, but they are extremist nuts in my book.

    You missed out Jehova's brainwashed Witnesses.
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    plateletplatelet Posts: 26,386
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    Lil_M wrote: »
    And?

    We could have the most amazing person who would be absolutely brilliant and s/he can't become a head of state because of her Catholicism. Such laws needs removing.

    Start by decapitating say 0.00000001% of the population, then hold elections
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    AZZURRI 06AZZURRI 06 Posts: 11,173
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    Catholics take their faith seriously and people do not realise just how hateful and hurtful it is to have it treated this way. It encourages outdated anti Catholic bigotry, still very much alive in the north of Ireland. Where do people think the Orange Order and their fellow travellers take their bigotry from? Political pygmies like Jeffrey Donaldson would have a fit if Britain moved into the modern world.
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    anne_666anne_666 Posts: 72,891
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    AZZURRI 06 wrote: »
    Catholics take their faith seriously and people do not realise just how hateful and hurtful it is to have it treated this way. It encourages outdated anti Catholic bigotry, still very much alive in the north of Ireland. Where do people think the Orange Order and their fellow travellers take their bigotry from? Political pygmies like Jeffrey Donaldson would have a fit if Britain moved into the modern world.

    All basically because Henry the 8th had the power and also wanted to get divorced. He created the Church of England then went on a murdering rampage of Catholics. It's totally unbelievable that this is still a stigma for Royals 500 years later.
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    Wolfman13Wolfman13 Posts: 1,579
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    I'm glad that Catholicism don't consider contraception and homosexuality no longer a sin and moved into the modern world, oh wait.
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    MrQuikeMrQuike Posts: 18,175
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    As others have said, those who become religious seem to leave all reason, common sense and rationality behind.
    Favouring faith over evidence is very dangerous, as this story demonstrates.
    Snippet from article:
    Blindly following their religious beliefs resulted in the death of TWO of their children.
    Reason, rationality and common sense: 0 out of 10
    Faith: 10 out of 10

    These people may not walk around with bombs in their rucksacks, but they are extremist nuts in my book.

    But not the raging murdering lunatics indicated in the original post.
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    JurassicMarkJurassicMark Posts: 12,871
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    Wolfman13 wrote: »
    I'm glad that Catholicism don't consider contraception and homosexuality no longer a sin and moved into the modern world, oh wait.

    Created a thread a few week ago about how Catholicism is moving into the modern world.

    Vatican legitimizes process of exorcism
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    JurassicMarkJurassicMark Posts: 12,871
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    MrQuike wrote: »
    But not the raging murdering lunatics indicated in the original post.

    Your right. They were 'convicted of involuntary manslaughter and then did it again' lunatics.
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