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Old 28-01-2017, 01:24
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It's so strange seeing Sophie Ellis-Bextor appear as a judge on the 'You Decide' program despite stating in 2012 that she would never represent the UK at Eurovision as it would humiliate her. Anyone else thing it was weird seeing her?

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Old 28-01-2017, 01:42
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It's so strange seeing Sophie Ellis-Bextor appear as a judge on the 'You Decide' program despite stating in 2012 that she would never represent the UK at Eurovision as it would humiliate her. Anyone else thing it was weird seeing her?

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She doesn't want to do it; she's not a slave, she doesn't have to if she doesn't want to.

And she actually said "fear of being humiliated", which is quite different to what you're trying to insinuate.
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Old 28-01-2017, 01:49
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She doesn't want to do it; she's not a slave, she doesn't have to if she doesn't want to.

And she actually said "fear of being humiliated", which is quite different to what you're trying to insinuate.
Wow, an aggressive response which did not address any of the points I made at all.

So what if she does not want to be the representative I could not care less it is weird however that she jumped at the opportunity to be a judge on the decider show when she would not do it herself. If she has no confidence in Eurovision then why is she judging others who do.
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Old 28-01-2017, 01:53
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Wow, an aggressive response which did not address any of the points I made at all.

So what if she does not want to be the representative I could not care less it is weird however that she jumped at the opportunity to be a judge on the decider show when she would not do it herself. If she has no confidence in Eurovision then why is she judging others who do.
I don't see any aggression in Kozmic's very articulate and factually correct post.

Not really seeing an issue. Sophie can be a judge on whatever TV show she wants to? Where are you getting this 'no confidence in Eurovision' from? Seems to be a very 2+2 = 5 interpretation of her quote that you're using.
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Old 28-01-2017, 01:57
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I don't see any aggression in Kozmic's very articulate and factually correct post.

Not really seeing an issue. Sophie can be a judge on whatever TV show she wants to? Where are you getting this 'no confidence in Eurovision' from? Seems to be a very 2+2 = 5 interpretation of her quote that you're using.
If we go by that logic then there would be no debate in the world at all. Might as-well close the forum.

All I was saying is that it was weird that she would appear given she had snubbed the competition previously. Please can you remind me of when I said that she should be the representative and please highlight where I said that she should not be judging.
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Old 28-01-2017, 02:03
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She is so popular in Russia and baltic states. But maybe that is an actual reason not to enter.
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Old 28-01-2017, 03:41
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I like SEB but she was pretty useless on that panel, along with the other two
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Old 28-01-2017, 07:15
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I do think it was slightly hypocritical of her appearing on a show to help find an entry when she has said she wouldn't do it herself. I like the woman but let's face it she's not Beyoncé or Adele, the peak of her career was almost 20 years ago. She still has a bit of a European fanbase, doing Eurovision might boost her career a little just like Strictly did in the UK.
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Old 28-01-2017, 10:22
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Old 28-01-2017, 11:41
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Wow, an aggressive response which did not address any of the points I made at all.

So what if she does not want to be the representative I could not care less it is weird however that she jumped at the opportunity to be a judge on the decider show when she would not do it herself. If she has no confidence in Eurovision then why is she judging others who do.
wow a defensive response which did not address the reply to you at all

You either deliberately twisted Sophie's words or just carelessly put words in her mouth as others have pointed out.
She loves Eurovision but doesn't want or need to take the risk of doing it in case of a bad result..like every other established act in the UK in fact. That has nothing to do with "confidence in Eurovision". It's a fact - the odds of getting a very good result are slim.

No doubt the BBC approached her, not the other way round, to be on the panel. She was the only one making sense on it too. You no doubt feel no-one should be allowed to appear on Strictly It Takes 2 or the Strictly Christmas special unless they sign up to the whole series. Bizarre.
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Old 28-01-2017, 11:49
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There's no real upside for someone like SEB to enter. They would have to clear the schedules for months and even in the unlikely event you do well, it doesn't boost your career any in the UK. How many hits did Katrina and the Waves, Immani, Jessica Garlick or Jade Ewen have after their good results?
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Old 28-01-2017, 11:54
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There's no real upside for someone like SEB to enter. They would have to clear the schedules for months and even in the unlikely event you do well, it doesn't boost your career any in the UK. How many hits did Katrina and the Waves, Immani, Jessica Garlick or Jade Ewen have after their good results?
Very true. SEB is carving herself a very nice indie career at the moment with Wanderlust and her newest album, Familia. I don't see what she'd gain by doing ESC, although that doesn't mean I wouldn't be over the moon if she did it.
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Old 28-01-2017, 12:15
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I do think it was slightly hypocritical of her appearing on a show to help find an entry when she has said she wouldn't do it herself. I like the woman but let's face it she's not Beyoncé or Adele, the peak of her career was almost 20 years ago. She still has a bit of a European fanbase, doing Eurovision might boost her career a little just like Strictly did in the UK.
How is it hypocritical... She said she doesn't want to sing at Eurovision. She didn't say she hated the Eurovision contest as a whole.

So Simon Cowell will say I can't stand on stage at x factor as I will be an embarrassment and I can't sing. But he becomes a judge is that hypocritical.
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Old 28-01-2017, 18:15
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How is it hypocritical... She said she doesn't want to sing at Eurovision. She didn't say she hated the Eurovision contest as a whole.

So Simon Cowell will say I can't stand on stage at x factor as I will be an embarrassment and I can't sing. But he becomes a judge is that hypocritical.
Did I miss the part where Sophie Ellis-Bextor became a successful record producer?
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Old 31-01-2017, 18:14
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There's no real upside for someone like SEB to enter. They would have to clear the schedules for months and even in the unlikely event you do well, it doesn't boost your career any in the UK. How many hits did Katrina and the Waves, Immani, Jessica Garlick or Jade Ewen have after their good results?
Jade Ewen joined the fourth line up of Sugababes and recorded one album with them, but they split up in 2010. She was supposed to release a solo album and had a couple of solo singles but the album got scrapped.

I do think it was slightly hypocritical of her appearing on a show to help find an entry when she has said she wouldn't do it herself. I like the woman but let's face it she's not Beyoncé or Adele, the peak of her career was almost 20 years ago. She still has a bit of a European fanbase, doing Eurovision might boost her career a little just like Strictly did in the UK.
How? She released Groovejet in 1999/2000 (which is often listed as DJ Spiller ft SEB) but her first solo album is from 2002. I remember buying the Murder on the Dancefloor CD single in 2002. I heard the song playing in Woolworths and as it was a time before Shazam I had to ask a staff member what song it was. They got me the CD single and I bought it. I was a fan of SEB after that. She might not have chart hits any more but she still has a fanbase and still releases music. Her latest album is pretty good.
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