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Old 15-02-2017, 20:41
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I thought she said that the ship's going down. just checked my recording with subtitles and it's definitely ship
Bernie said it so quick - it could have been ship or could have been shit. I thought I heard shit.
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Old 15-02-2017, 20:41
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I remember a stage where Ollie's gorgeous blue eyes were commented on on an almost weekly basis. Plus back in the day they were always going on about how beautiful Chrissie was.

For me Matteo is good looking but not gorgeous. Joseph Spence Ollie and Ric wouls be far more handsome imo. But he is better than Jonny that's for sure (imo).

It's all subjective any way isn't it??
Yes, I nearly mentioned Chrissie as being the only character I remember whose appearance was commented on a lot and that used to annoy me too. But I don't think even she got to the frequency of Rossini.

Ollies blue eyes are probabky the next most mentioned thing but again, nowhere near as frequent as this.

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Old 15-02-2017, 20:54
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Bernie said it so quick - it could have been ship or could have been shit. I thought I heard shit.
The guy who did the subtitles confirmed that she said ship! She also followed it with something about rescuing the women and children or similar. funnily enough when I just said ship to Siri it came out as shit!
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Old 16-02-2017, 00:07
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Saying Ollie is 'much better looking' than Rossini is quite frankly ridiculous. Hes not better looking that's why Rossini can play the stud women drool over and Ollie can't. He was cast because of his looks. As a straight male I noticed he was a handsome guy as soon as he came on screen. Plus Ollie is dull, has no swag, whose made Zosia sort of boring too.
I think Matteo is handsome, but I personally find Ollie to be the more attractive of the two. That's my personal opinion, I am sure there are others who think differently. Although quite a lot of other posters on here seem to think the same. It's very much a matter of personal opinion.

Nevertheless, as another poster mentioned the fact that this is even being discussed, is because we are being told every two seconds how handsome and perfect Matteo is. I have never noticed this to such an extent with any other character, in the whole time I've watched holby.

It is telling that we never normally have discussions regarding who is most attractive/good looking etc on this thread. It's not something I would ever normally think to post on, but we've been told so many times how handsome Matteo is that it's raised a clear contrast to other characters that some of us would view as being equally/or more attractive.
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Old 16-02-2017, 01:01
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That Isaac really is a nasty piece of work.

Jac, you really don't need to be like that with the new guy, whose name I've forgotten, just because you work together. Not long ago you thought, happily, that you were having Johnny's baby.

Catherine Russell is an excellent actress.
Well as I said at the start Isaac is just a psycho with knife skills, last night I did find myself swearing at the screen , nasty vile specimen which of course means the actor is doing as good job.
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Old 16-02-2017, 02:29
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I totally agree. I can't see the attraction of Matteo, or any chemistry between him and Jac. And yes, Ollie is ridiculously good looking, though very well matched by gorgeous Zosia. I loved the scenes with Mo and Jac, they make a good double act. I assume Mr T is on paternity leave, and no one is covering his job? Because the scenes with the baby scan were just silly. I'm another one who doesn't believe the babies are Raf's.
Re your comments on Isaac, I couldn't have put it any better. He's repulsive. But very well acted.
I don't think Matteo's a bad character especially, he's just got nothing that'd make him attractive to or suitable for Jac. I hate how the writers seem to be trying to force us to love him by telling us how great he apparently is, without him actually doing anything terribly great. I think it's way too early for the audience to have very strong feelings about him, and the likes of Mo gushing about him all the time is just annoying. It puts me off him if anything. He also seems to be rather a cookie cutter example of the arrogant high up male surgeon character, like Anton Meyer and Nick Jordan and all the rest of them. He's done some likeable things though, like recording Jac to get her patient to see how good and dedicated she really is.

That's true, Ollie and Zosia are a beautiful couple. Very well suited too, much more so than him and Tara or her and Jesse imo.

I really dislike Mo in general but have to admit I enjoy her scenes with Jac, the latter brings out the best in Mo.
It does seem like Mr T's doing paternity more than Mo's having maternity. Which is kind of odd but I guess if it works for them... It really needs to be stated/clarified on screen though.
They really were strange. In reality she'd have been sent to maternity, there's no way she'd be being treated there. And it was so casually dropped in that oh by the way they're yours, there was no real sense of revelation or anything. It certainly does seem fishy.

Repulsive is the word alright. Absolutely shocking at times, like smashing Arthur's medals. Cruel, twisted, vile man. I think it's a great topic for a tv show to cover, especially between a same sex couple. Don't think I've ever seen an abuse storyline between same sex characters before. It's been well written so far and very well acted, it's just so hard to watch someone be so cruel, vicious and manipulative to another person and deliberately try to break down their confidence and self respect.
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Old 16-02-2017, 02:46
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Saying Ollie is 'much better looking' than Rossini is quite frankly ridiculous. Hes not better looking that's why Rossini can play the stud women drool over and Ollie can't. He was cast because of his looks. As a straight male I noticed he was a handsome guy as soon as he came on screen. Plus Ollie is dull, has no swag, whose made Zosia sort of boring too.
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Old 16-02-2017, 02:50
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Brendan and Ste in Hollyoaks was a same sex abusive couple though the abuse was violent rather than emotional and disturbingly, they seemed to be shipped more by online fantom for it.
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Old 16-02-2017, 03:29
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Brendan and Ste in Hollyoaks was a same sex abusive couple though the abuse was violent rather than emotional and disturbingly, they seemed to be shipped more by online fantom for it.
Oh of course, I'd totally forgotten about that! Maybe because the type of abuse was different I didn't think of it. But you're quite right, it was a very popular pairing despite being abusive.
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Old 16-02-2017, 10:07
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I don't think Matteo's a bad character especially, he's just got nothing that'd make him attractive to or suitable for Jac. I hate how the writers seem to be trying to force us to love him by telling us how great he apparently is, without him actually doing anything terribly great. I think it's way too early for the audience to have very strong feelings about him, and the likes of Mo gushing about him all the time is just annoying. It puts me off him if anything. He also seems to be rather a cookie cutter example of the arrogant high up male surgeon character, like Anton Meyer and Nick Jordan and all the rest of them. He's done some likeable things though, like recording Jac to get her patient to see how good and dedicated she really is.
This is exactly how I feel about Matteo. I think given the chance to develop as a character, interacting with patients etc, that he could be great. However, at present he is being forced upon the audience as being perfect, without us having seen much evidence of why this is. Plus, he is just not a good match for Jac and that pairing is adding nothing to either character, in my opinion.
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Old 16-02-2017, 10:13
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I totally agree. I can't see the attraction of Matteo, or any chemistry between him and Jac. And yes, Ollie is ridiculously good looking, though very well matched by gorgeous Zosia. I loved the scenes with Mo and Jac, they make a good double act. I assume Mr T is on paternity leave, and no one is covering his job? Because the scenes with the baby scan were just silly. I'm another one who doesn't believe the babies are Raf's.
Re your comments on Isaac, I couldn't have put it any better. He's repulsive. But very well acted.
Isaac is far hotter than Matteo.
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Old 16-02-2017, 16:45
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Old 16-02-2017, 16:56
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Isaac is far hotter than Matteo.
Yeh because I bet Isaac, Ollie, who else?..Dom, Raf.. are better male model candidates than Matteo. Okey-dokey.
In fact I bet Matteos actor was a model. Seriously is this an Italian/foreign thing the reason for these absurd statements I'm reading. There's subjective and there's delusion. Ollie is really boring to me in every single way looks included so that's why I'm even wasting my time arguing this.
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Old 16-02-2017, 17:06
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But that's why it's subjective.

I think from a totally objective point of view, it is fair to say they are both handsome nen in terms of what is generally recognised as aesthetically pleasing - even, symmetrical facial features, good bone structure, defined cheek bones, big, nice eyes, full mouth, unblemished skin, full head of hair, tall, broad shoulders, slim but muscular.

I think even if they're not your 'type', most woukd recognise them as good looking.
Matteo has broader shoulders, chest, better bone structure..more chiseled face, more muscular, better hair. So...he wins on every count
The guy is clearly more masculine looking than dull Ollie.
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Old 16-02-2017, 17:11
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What is so difficult to understand about some people finding one person more attractive than another one,? It's just personal taste, no insult to the actor.

You don't agree which is fine but that is just your opinion

There is hardly any bigotry going on against foreign men when people have also commented on finding actors like Hari Dhillon, Hugh Quarshie, Art Malik and Marc Elliot handsome and attractive.

Why on earth would people lie about their opinion? What would they have to gain?
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Old 16-02-2017, 17:22
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What is so difficult to understand about some people finding one person more attractive than another one,? It's just personal taste, no insult to the actor.

There is hardly any bigotry going on against foreign men when people have also commented on finding actors like Hari Dhillon, Hugh Quarshie, Art Malik and Marc Elliot handsome and attractive...
Like I said Ollie the character really annoys me. I think he is dull, wet, bland, charmless, miserable looking you name it but seems to be popular for reasons unknown to me and should not have returned imo. So even absurd statements imo like 'he is faarrr better looking than Mattteo' set me off when it shouldn't.
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Old 16-02-2017, 17:27
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Plus isn't there a character that really annoys you . Didn't most of you hate Adele and how perfect the writers made her out to be. What If you were the only one and everyone kept banging on about how much nicer, sweeter, better looking she was
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Old 16-02-2017, 17:41
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Plus isn't there a character that really annoys you . Didn't most of you hate Adele and how perfect the writers made her out to be. What If you were the only one and everyone kept banging on about how much nicer, sweeter, better looking she was
Well yes we all have our pet likes and dislikes. Adele pushed my buttons and so did Jonny even though most people saw him as a good guy. But then I love Jac and a lot of people hate her!
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Old 16-02-2017, 21:07
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Like I said Ollie the character really annoys me. I think he is dull, wet, bland, charmless, miserable looking you name it but seems to be popular for reasons unknown to me and should not have returned imo. So even absurd statements imo like 'he is faarrr better looking than Mattteo' set me off when it shouldn't.
That's fair enough but it doesn't mean we shoukd be told we're wrong or deluded for feeling differentky.

No,, I didn't like Adele, or Chrissie, but I wouldn't try to deny that they were good looking women or find it unbelievabke that a viewer should prefer them, looks or personality wise, than an actress or character I personally think is prettier, better acted or more likeable.
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Old 16-02-2017, 21:09
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Well yes we all have our pet likes and dislikes. Adele pushed my buttons and so did Jonny even though most people saw him as a good guy. But then I love Jac and a lot of people hate her!
Yes, try being a Jac fan or pleading her defence back in 2006/2007, especially when she was against Diane who was universally loved.
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Old 16-02-2017, 21:33
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I like Raf...

Triggered anyone?!
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Old 16-02-2017, 23:00
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Rossini is too hairy. I bet he looks like a Wookie with his kit off! None of Jac's men will ever measure up to Joseph.
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Old 16-02-2017, 23:07
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Rossini is too hairy. I bet he looks like a Wookie with his kit off! None of Jac's men will ever measure up to Joseph.
Lol at your description of Matteo and so agree with you regarding Joseph. No one will ever match him for Jac.
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Old 17-02-2017, 10:40
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Yeh because I bet Isaac, Ollie, who else?..Dom, Raf.. are better male model candidates than Matteo. Okey-dokey.
In fact I bet Matteos actor was a model. Seriously is this an Italian/foreign thing the reason for these absurd statements I'm reading. There's subjective and there's delusion. Ollie is really boring to me in every single way looks included so that's why I'm even wasting my time arguing this.
Not sure what that little outburst was in aid of. I'm not comparing characters just saying i think Isaac is better looking than Matteo. Take a chill pill.
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Old 17-02-2017, 10:42
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What is so difficult to understand about some people finding one person more attractive than another one,? It's just personal taste, no insult to the actor.

You don't agree which is fine but that is just your opinion

There is hardly any bigotry going on against foreign men when people have also commented on finding actors like Hari Dhillon, Hugh Quarshie, Art Malik and Marc Elliot handsome and attractive.

Why on earth would people lie about their opinion? What would they have to gain?

Spot on. masterquan needs to chill out and stop attacking people.
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