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Old 05-02-2017, 21:56
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Great theme tune. Great titles. Very fond of Roger Moore. So I caught a number of episodes years ago...thought it was quite enjoyable in a 'particularly camp nonsense' sort of way. Compared to stuff like 'Dangerman','The Prisoner', 'Man in a Suitcase', 'Randall and Hopkirk....' and the like (actually compared to most earlier ITC series) it's a bit rubbish. Just quite endearing rubbish!

Curtis arriving for filming from the US to Heathrow and getting fined for Cannabis possession (according to Wikipedia)....I really hope that's true. Apparently he liked a toke very much at the time; which explains a lot. Harry Enfield did a great spoof of this, with a bit of Jason King thrown in, called 'The Playboys' IIRC.

Still, it's entertaining enough, better than 'Jason King' and 'The (Godawful) Adventurer' and the leads carry it.
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Old 06-02-2017, 10:48
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for a series rated at 8.2 on IMDB

I have to say "Disappointing!"

I shall be setting my PVR to record the Sunday linking and not worry if they chop it before I get to the end

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Old 06-02-2017, 11:48
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for a series rated at 8.2 on IMDB

I have to say "Disappointing!"

I shall be setting my PVR to record the Sunday linking and not worry if they chop it before I get to the end

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I haven't watched it yet, but I do remember from previous repeat showings that the first episode wasn't so great but it got a lot better. Plus, of course, it was of its time, so something that was well received in 1971 wouldn't necessarily be nowadays.
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Old 06-02-2017, 12:09
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I lasted less than half an hour - funny how your tastes change in 45 years.

(That incidental music - aaargh!)
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Old 06-02-2017, 12:10
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I haven't watched it yet, but I do remember from previous repeat showings that the first episode wasn't so great but it got a lot better. Plus, of course, it was of its time, so something that was well received in 1971 wouldn't necessarily be nowadays.
Yesterday's episodes are two of the poorer ones. Look out for much better ones such as Someone Like Me, Take Seven and The Time And The Place. A Death In The Family is also pretty amusing, with a rather good cameo from Willie Rushton.

Unfortunately though there are also too many episodes where it's pretty evident Curtis hasn't learnt a single line of the script, such as Someone Waiting and Anyone Can Play, particularly the finale on the train where he just umms and errs and repeats what the other person has just said.

If Curtis had been bothered to take the show seriously then I believe it would now quite possibly be regarded as one of our best ever, instead of an expensive flop.
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Old 06-02-2017, 12:20
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Hi

Just a heads up for those interested that 70s series The Persuaders is starting today at 5pm on True Ent.
Thank you, I'll be there!

As a lad I had Dinky models of both cars I think, DB7 and a Ferarri Dino?

I certainly had the theme music on a 7", John Barry Orchestra.
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Old 06-02-2017, 12:44
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I once read somewhere that Curtis and Moore couldn't agree/argued over who should get first billing so the producers decided to split screen the intro and have them both appear on screen at the same time!

Am going for this tonight, it's dated of course but it's a bit of fun.
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Old 06-02-2017, 14:10
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Ill look forward to that Ive just set my dvd recorder for both episodes Tuesday night
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Old 06-02-2017, 15:25
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I actually think the scripts were pretty good. Unfortunately Curtis could never be bothered to learn his lines, which drove Rog mad as it made him look bad too.

And Virgil, I'm surprised you say you don't think much of Ken Thorne's incidental music. It's outstanding. I'm sure dad would disagree with you.
it's the way it's repeated so often thats annoying .
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Old 06-02-2017, 22:59
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Watching a car chase sequence, supposedly set on the France/Italy border, but looks suspiciously like it was filmed on a closed-off section of UK road!
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Old 06-02-2017, 23:12
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Watching a car chase sequence, supposedly set on the France/Italy border, but looks suspiciously like it was filmed on a closed-off section of UK road!
Didn't see the clip but as an example the proving ground at Millbrook has starred in countless tv series and films.
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Old 07-02-2017, 11:49
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it's the way it's repeated so often thats annoying .
I can see you tickling the ivories and doing a jazz take on the theme tune in front of Jeff and the boys. I'm sure it would go down well.

PS - If anyone's interested two of the better episodes are on tonight on TE starting at 9pm.
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Old 07-02-2017, 12:03
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I've seen most of the episodes but will watch the whole lot again on True Entertainment.

The first two episodes (last night) were as ropey as I remember, alternating between studio shots of them in a car chase (!), nonsensical scenes (Curtis in the warehouse with the clipboard) and other assorted bits and pieces.

But over the piece it's harmless fun, an undemanding and lightweight 45 mins - typical of its era, obviously dated but fine nonetheless.
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Old 07-02-2017, 13:22
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I can see you tickling the ivories and doing a jazz take on the theme tune in front of Jeff and the boys. I'm sure it would go down well.

PS - If anyone's interested two of the better episodes are on tonight on TE starting at 9pm.
Well it keeps Grandma quiet

noticed that they've cropped it , is the blu-ray cropped ?
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Old 07-02-2017, 13:38
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Well it keeps Grandma quiet

noticed that they've cropped it , is the blu-ray cropped ?
No, original 4:3 unlike your BluRay release. Couldn't you have pulled some strings?
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Old 07-02-2017, 17:05
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Thank you, I'll be there!

As a lad I had Dinky models of both cars I think, DB7 and a Ferarri Dino?

I certainly had the theme music on a 7", John Barry Orchestra.
The Aston was a 6-cylinder DBS dressed up to look like the DBS V8. The Ferrari was a Dino 246GT; although they were never actually badged as a 'Ferrari'.
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Old 12-02-2017, 18:40
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Why is it billed as "Persuaders" and not "The Persuaders"? Clueless in charge again?

Anyway, it's a pity Curtis spoiled it by behaving as if it was his comedy show.
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Old 12-02-2017, 21:09
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Why is it billed as "Persuaders" and not "The Persuaders"? Clueless in charge again?

Anyway, it's a pity Curtis spoiled it by behaving as if it was his comedy show.
To be pedantic, it's actually 'The Persuaders!'...

I don't think either Curtis or Moore were taking it seriously, but Curtis certainly doesn't come across as a New York street kid who made his money the hard way.
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Old 13-02-2017, 10:41
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Anyway, it's a pity Curtis spoiled it by behaving as if it was his comedy show.
Yes. When it became apparent he wasn't going to take it seriously and was so unprofessional, in particular not bothering to learn his lines, Lew Grade wanted to sack him but it was far too late - contracts had already been signed (Curtis earned around a million pounds for the series, a huge amount for the time) and filming had begun, so it would have been far too costly and impractical.
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Old 13-02-2017, 11:20
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I found it unwatchable the first time round.
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Old 13-02-2017, 11:35
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For the benefit of the younger forum members such as myself, what was the Persuaders?

This https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIQwzWg7-1E

An 11 year old back in 1971 I just loved this programme
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Old 13-02-2017, 11:39
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I found it unwatchable the first time round.
First time round as a 10 year old I loved it but I remember my dad saying Curtis could't act and I didn't know what he was talking about. I guess he was referring to him not learning his lines and umming and erring all the time and repeating what the other guy had just said.

I've watched it loads of times since and I think it's fairly entertaining even though I find Curtis pretty infuriating and it could have been so much better if he'd been more professional. The series certainly has a feelgood factor to it which I think is probably only matched by Randall And Hopkirk from the other ITC shows.
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Old 13-02-2017, 11:46
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Catching up watching a few of these now, missed the first one and the second one was fairly poor. However the third one (Take Seven) was fairly good and the 4th (Greensleeves) was good up until the end where it seemed to drag on a touch. They are of their time a bit, but it was great to be reminded of a few actors, Sue Lloyd pre Crossroads, Cy Grant (Lieutenant Green from Captain Scarlet!) Tommy Godfrey was one of those faces that was recognisable as was Tom Adams. Caught a bit of the next episode with Lionel Blair and Terence Alexander.
Looking forward to A Death in the Family, this is the only one that I remember from the first time.
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Old 13-02-2017, 21:54
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The Persuaders was the last (save for the doomed The Zoo Gang) on 35mm film as ITC saved money by switching to 16mm film and being less studio bound such as Jason King, The Protectors, and The Adventurer.

Thames TV went the same route with The Sweeney and Minder, and LWT with The New Avengers and The Professionals. All doomed with 1970's American anti-violence on tv that led to The Saturday night and Wednesday night mystery movies that spawned Columbo and the like which kept Universal studios in work.

The original Hawaii 50 is a good example, In the first two series it was very violent and Mcgarrett usually killed the bad guy in a shoot-out; and to survive the anti-violence brigade the villains were arrested and the phrase "book 'em Danno" became legend. Jack Lord would be surprised to see the level of violence today on what was his show and the current trend in America for ultra violent programmes.

Britain's answer was Morse on 16mm film and later all the other detectives; moving to Super 16mm film for widescreen. They are all digital now.
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Old 14-02-2017, 12:25
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Watching the Sunday afternoon pace, now seen ep 3 & 4

Back in the UK they've got better from the first two lots of nonsense set in Monaco.

Apart from there being two of them, they are barely indistinguishable from episodes of The Saint.

Watchable, but nothing more

Though it's fun playing "spot the bit-part actor"

and a young Sinéad Cusack was the image (looks and voice) of her sister in Heartbeat.

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