Possible interpretation but I suspect not. I do feel it was Missy referring to Clara as a choice she made. Clara was the choice. Why? And what for? No idea. But suspect the doctor knows something's up. Someone else pointed out that the reason why episodes have been 'Clara-centric' is exactly because the Doctor is testing her.. He knows something is odd (again) with Clara?
What's clear is that this series has a few odd things going on that haven't quite pieced together yet. Even the way the doctor has been responding to Clara is odd in that he seems to be constantly challenging her..
Possible interpretation but I suspect not. I do feel it was Missy referring to Clara as a choice she made. Clara was the choice. Why? And what for? No idea. But suspect the doctor knows something's up. Someone else pointed out that the reason why episodes have been 'Clara-centric' is exactly because the Doctor is testing her.. He knows something is odd (again) with Clara?
What's clear is that this series has a few odd things going on that haven't quite pieced together yet. Even the way the doctor has been responding to Clara is odd in that he seems to be constantly challenging her..
You could be right. Maybe Missy is planning some way for Clara to try to take over the Doctor's role somehow? Or can use Clara somehow so Missy can be in control?
I know, a bit far fetched, but Clara has been totally enjoying trying to play the Doctor and make decisions, and maybe Missy can use that "want"-so to speak- against the Doctor somehow. Should be interesting to find out exactly what is going on and where Clara and Danny fit into the scheme of things. What is the scheme?? ha ha
But I suspect that the Doctor knows something is up.
Anyway, I did get the impression that Clara was chosen by Missy, but -as you say- whatever for?
Didn't we see Clara's now deceased mother in one of those red button teasers, the one with the Doctor talking to her on a playground swing when she was a young girl?
Didn't we see Clara's now deceased mother in one of those red button teasers, the one with the Doctor talking to her on a playground swing when she was a young girl?
Why would Clara's mum refer to the Doctor as 'my boyfriend' then?
Surely it's VERY weird for any mum to want their daughter involved with someone she regards as a boyfriend ?
I think you are barking up the wrong tree. Missy has engineered Clara's involvement in all this - Clara is being manipulated.
Claras mum was called Ellie. She died when Clara was a teenager . Flashback in ROA showed the funeral. As for Missy she probably picked Clara and gave her the number of the tardis for as yet unkown reasons.I don't know why 12 is starting to distrust Clara now. Wouldn't he remmber all they went through as 11. Thought the whole "impossible girl" thing proved she was a "normal" girl/woman who did something special because of the doctor. She jumped into the timeline to save his sorry ***. Just like when 11 didn't trust River and kept asking who she was. He allready knew the answer!. River was the woman who loved him so much she died to save 10 and their future relationship/marriage. Hope Clara story is given a good ending if that is at christmas or in S9 next year.
If you means could she POSSIBLY be Mrs Oswald - absolutely,
If you mean does anything about her suggest that she IS - nothing I can see other than her appearing to be a female and claiming to be in "heaven" - but that appear to also apply to the mothers of the two lots of kids she nannied (one lot as herself and another as one of her "clones")
Regardless, I think you're dead right to suggest that the line cold refer to a choice made FOR Clara rather than Clara herself being selected - but keep in mind that the same line wit that interpretation could refer to Clara's relationship with dismal Dan.
Whatever the "facts" of Moffat's story, congrats on a good bit of lateral thinking
If you means could she POSSIBLY be Mrs Oswald - absolutely,
If you mean does anything about her suggest that she IS - nothing I can see other than her appearing to be a female and claiming to be in "heaven" - but that appear to also apply to the mothers of the two lots of kids she nannied (one lot as herself and another as one of her "clones")
Regardless, I think you're dead right to suggest that the line cold refer to a choice made FOR Clara rather than Clara herself being selected - but keep in mind that the same line wit that interpretation could refer to Clara's relationship with dismal Dan.
Whatever the "facts" of Moffat's story, congrats on a good bit of lateral thinking
Lol dismal Dan I like it. Yes it could mean that Danny is her choice and he is set to make Clara choose between him and the doctor but with fatal consequences for the other ?
Lol dismal Dan I like it. Yes it could mean that Danny is her choice and he is set to make Clara choose between him and the doctor but with fatal consequences for the other ?
It'd have to be pure guesswork on any reason but a few possible scenarios spring to mind - including dismal being sent by Missy.
I've been saying elsewhere that it was interesting to have the effects of grief regarded as an "ailment" by the Foretold - makes me wonder if maybe someone is being set-up to feel grief as a way to make them vulnerable to that "mummy" tech. It could be that someone is engineering a "broken heart" for one of the main cast members.
It is very difficult - there's really no clues in anything we've seen so it's all guesswork - and that "chose" line is a beaut.
This. There's way too much overthinking on this thread.
The Doctor: "I'm going to eat a banana"
DS: "What does he mean by banana?"
Hate to say it but the Doctor eating a banana COULD be important - if we already knew that he doesn't eat them and there was a "fleshie" Doctor running around.
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its just that the way she says it, clara, my clara, i have chosen well
(sorry, just channeling Anne Elk there. Cleese never looked more beautiful)
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What's clear is that this series has a few odd things going on that haven't quite pieced together yet. Even the way the doctor has been responding to Clara is odd in that he seems to be constantly challenging her..
Cool theory. I'd like that.
You could be right. Maybe Missy is planning some way for Clara to try to take over the Doctor's role somehow? Or can use Clara somehow so Missy can be in control?
I know, a bit far fetched, but Clara has been totally enjoying trying to play the Doctor and make decisions, and maybe Missy can use that "want"-so to speak- against the Doctor somehow. Should be interesting to find out exactly what is going on and where Clara and Danny fit into the scheme of things. What is the scheme?? ha ha
But I suspect that the Doctor knows something is up.
Anyway, I did get the impression that Clara was chosen by Missy, but -as you say- whatever for?
She was in the Rings of Akhaten as well.
My memory obviously failed to recall that particular not-so-fondly-remembered episode!
Surely it's VERY weird for any mum to want their daughter involved with someone she regards as a boyfriend ?
I think you are barking up the wrong tree. Missy has engineered Clara's involvement in all this - Clara is being manipulated.
If you means could she POSSIBLY be Mrs Oswald - absolutely,
If you mean does anything about her suggest that she IS - nothing I can see other than her appearing to be a female and claiming to be in "heaven" - but that appear to also apply to the mothers of the two lots of kids she nannied (one lot as herself and another as one of her "clones")
Regardless, I think you're dead right to suggest that the line cold refer to a choice made FOR Clara rather than Clara herself being selected - but keep in mind that the same line wit that interpretation could refer to Clara's relationship with dismal Dan.
Whatever the "facts" of Moffat's story, congrats on a good bit of lateral thinking
Dismal clearly has some white ancestry and he was in a children's home as a kid so his parentage has never been established.
Oh no not another happy ending.
Lol dismal Dan I like it. Yes it could mean that Danny is her choice and he is set to make Clara choose between him and the doctor but with fatal consequences for the other ?
It'd have to be pure guesswork on any reason but a few possible scenarios spring to mind - including dismal being sent by Missy.
I've been saying elsewhere that it was interesting to have the effects of grief regarded as an "ailment" by the Foretold - makes me wonder if maybe someone is being set-up to feel grief as a way to make them vulnerable to that "mummy" tech. It could be that someone is engineering a "broken heart" for one of the main cast members.
It is very difficult - there's really no clues in anything we've seen so it's all guesswork - and that "chose" line is a beaut.
This. There's way too much overthinking on this thread.
The Doctor: "I'm going to eat a banana"
DS: "What does he mean by banana?"
Are you trying to say The Doctor is Bananaman or they are hinting towards the fact Eric/Bananaman is a alien and The Doctor knows of his home planet
Hate to say it but the Doctor eating a banana COULD be important - if we already knew that he doesn't eat them and there was a "fleshie" Doctor running around.
Bananaman is Missy. Missy is Clara. Clara is Bananaman.
This. This a thousand times.
Is the Master Appleman?
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