Obsession with sales
dodger0703
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I read some threads in here and a number of people have this strange obsession with how much something has sold.
If you like a song/album what does it matter how many it has sold? I have no idea how many the artists I like have sold but if I am the only one who bought it, I wouldn't care as long as I like it.
If you like a song/album what does it matter how many it has sold? I have no idea how many the artists I like have sold but if I am the only one who bought it, I wouldn't care as long as I like it.
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A lot of artists if the music is doing that well give up or get dropped. Melanie C is one of a few who i'd say releases music cause she enjoys it regardless of sales.
Unfortunately at the end of the day it is business and comes down to what sells and what doesn't That does't take away from what is good music and what isn't. If it wasn't as cut throat as how it is now it would be brilliant.
There are plenty of artists who haven't dented the top 40 but still are great artists as their music is quality. It is kinda sad..
I wish there was more lyric analysis or discussion about the techincal side of song writing/singing/performing but I rarely see conversation along those lines here.
Is it possible that this is what the singles market has gone back to?
Most of the acts you cited were part of the albums industry... I was referring to the knock-em-out singles only stuff. Mitch Miller etc..
Think of Mitch Miller as the 1940s Simon Cowell..
I agree with others that I think it's fine apart from 'obsessives' who inflate sales and tear other artists down needlessly. Completely blinded by fandom and lack of reasoning not mentioning a particular spice girls fan...
If I had my way there would be a sub-forum for sales discussion and any mention of it in the main forum would be an insta-ban .
Same here. I get the feeling that those ppl goes on sale figures rather than on the music itself. If it top the chart= good, and youre a fan. If it doesnt get to no1=rubbish,flop,not a fan.
I love music and the only thing I care about is if I enjoy what I hear.
Just because a Artist / Band isn't chart material, it doesn't mean that the record shops should give little to no promotion of the album & also charge a ridiculous price for it. I can proudly say that I haven't bought a Now compilation in over 10 years, because I wouldn't pay to support the majority of the sh!t on it, I wouldn't even waste space on my computer / mp3 player by downloading it illegally.
Surely it would be worth record shops worthwhile to put up a poster in the shop of bands / artists that are not Top 40 material, that way they may get more sales & then be able to increase sales figures by lowering the price to that of Top 40 material.
sales = money = popularity = music liked = music regarded good by people
1i would say the vast majority of artists I listen to make music for the love and enjoyment of doing so, any perceived commercial success is very much a secondary consideration.
The word "FLOP" is the most OVER USED word from trolls & fans of Top 40/Pop music. It's actually quite sad to see how much they enjoy calling others flop & the lengths they go to make sure other people know that a certain artist is a "flop."
I hate seeing artists being described as 'flops'. Just because music does not sell 1000s does not make it a flop. Frankly, if an artist builds a small but loyal fan base, I call that a success.
Of course, It could be that the story of pop music is coming to an end? There are no real big cultural movements that are aligned with pop music any more. And so many of the new forms of pop music are recycled versions of past ones. Maybe pop has run out of new ideas and the biz won out over the art in the end? And sales are all that's worth talking about?
When it comes to the mainstream, yeah, probably.
How do you judge success outside the mainstream?