Mole Yr Parc Transmitter
Declan_McGrath1
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http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/moel-y-parc-transmitting-station--11936300
What where these people thinking, climbing on top of a 740ft transmitter they could of been anyone, I thought these transmitter sites are private property.
What where these people thinking, climbing on top of a 740ft transmitter they could of been anyone, I thought these transmitter sites are private property.
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It is private property but you cannot be prosecuted for trespass in the UK.
The owners could take a civil action for any damages which will include having to do a full inspection of the mast to check that there is no damage including possibly some shutdowns or reduced power whilst this is done.
There is no sign of anything for checking RF levels so Darwin's Law might apply if they have been near the antenna and received a large dose of RF
The perimeter fence would not have been high enough, the warning signs were not clear enough, etc.,etc., someone else would have been to blame.
Ah right okey, it states that Arqvia are investigating it anyway.
Means literally "Park Mountain" from the Welsh, they were treating it an extreme recreational park, and a completely vertical mountain that they got to the summit of!
I don't have any negative feelings towards them, I admire anyone who has the gall to do this level of extreme urban exploring, it's not like they were damaging anything just climbing up the mast in the way engineers would, but with no safety fallback. You should see some of the stuff that is climbed in Russia & Ukraine, the Channel 4 documentary about James Kingston from Southampton who got into this sort of extreme free climbing I found really fascinating.
It's never going to become a big social problem because only the very few will ever have the front to actually attempt and then accomplish such climbs. You also get people freeclimbing the likes of bridges, the adrenaline rush of doing something so daring, whilst maintaining the zen of the control & self-discipline you must have to maintain your balance, footing will be a big part of the high along with the challenge of overcoming authority who are against the free climb. From an ego point of view, someone who has mastered free climbing is braver than the authorities who would arrest them because the authorities could not achieve what they have unless with a lot of safety equipment, psychologically they are probably feeling on top of the world, and not just in the literal sense.
Someone who accomplishes free climbing could probably be counted on to rescue you from a sticky situation or be more likely to explore deep caves and go the extra mile for human endeavour physically, in fact I've just realised it's the only sport I actually admire.
They are saying the mast is in Flintshire, well it is, but it's also right on the border with Denbighshire as the county boundary goes right along the top of the Clwydian range, Radio City now gets into the likes of Denbigh & Ruthin thanks to Liverpool DAB now being on the mast
Even in normal mast work it happens but the riggers will fix or log it for fixing later. Sometimes damage is not noticed until later when it affected the services on the mast.
These people frequently break into sites and cause damage, they also often make it more difficult for responsible groups to get permission to visit sites.
Cone on. That's totally irresponsible. The effect of braking into any technical site, whether military or critical national infrastructure and the legal basis is one thing, the rf risk thing is another.
Its a nice cod's law thing to say that trespass is a civil thing rather than a criminal thing. Trespass on the railway is a criminal matter, as is military and other sites relating to national security. A TV transmitter site is part of the critical national infrastructure, and so depending on whatever intent would form the basis for a charge under various bits of legislation including the over-used anti-terrorist laws. Anyway, wheres Moel-y-Park's structure is Arqiva's isn't it on the MoD's land?
Quite apart from that, do you have any idea of the medial impact of exposing yourself to that level of UHF radiation? You did say that maintainers climb-up the masts occasionally. Yes, but they have the good sense to switch-off the tx before doing so.
I'm surprised anyone would feel that way on a broadcasting forum. At the very least they were putting themselves at great risk, not only of falling from the mast but of exposure to RF which can cause serious long term problems. When engineers work on the mast it will be turned off and they'll have every possible precaution in place including monitoring for any effects of radiation.
Probably because as a physical achievement getting to the top of the mast on a free climb is way beyond what most of us could ever do. I found it fascinating to watch "Don't Look Down" about Kingston's free climbs both here and in Ukraine. Getting to the top of broadcasting towers is quite common in Russia, damage is not often talked about. Given that these two put a peace symbol at the top, it seems unlikely that they had any intention to cause damage, they just simply climbed it. They were at risk from the RF levels perhaps but they weren't harming anyone else in that sense, it'd be interesting to ask them if they felt the pressure from the RF or were worried about that.
I am near radio transmitters quite a bit, but at nothing like that sort of power! Our homes are now full of RF, but at nothing like the level of 100 KW!
If you say "how do you know they didn't cause damage" as an argument because you're against what they did, you could just as easily say "how do you know that they did". Essentially it has ladder like steps and you can go up them, as long as things are not knocked out of place and reasonable care is taken, I imagine. An analogy could be parkouring along urban roofs which have aerials and satellite dishes on them, no damage will be done if you don't knock any, you'd be more likely to cause damage as there are tiles etc, but the mast has an inbuilt way to climb it as part of its design as it needs to be accessed from time to time!
A Channel 4 producer would probably want to meet them, if you're interested in this story, this is well worth a watch, luckily still up in its entirety on All4 - http://www.channel4.com/programmes/dont-look-down/on-demand/57783-001
Even a small item like their 'selfie stick' can cause damage or injury if dropped.
Even experienced riggers can occasionaly cause damage. There are ladders but not everywhere and climbers tend to bump into things as well as their safety lines can be attached to the wrong place or catch on things.
They would be well advised to visit a doctor - their GP will probably not have the specialist knowledge needed so they might have to go private. And also arrange for regular health checks for the foreseeable future.
https://www.arqiva.com/documentation/gateway-documents/
And safety at https://www.arqiva.com/documentation/safety-health-and-environment/
I hope they do go,and get checked out !!!!