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Things were so much better in the 70's says Red Ken

The PopeThe Pope Posts: 45
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Failed and depressed former London Mayor Ken Livingstone has finally woken up to reality and admits Britain had got worse under the last Labour Government – Britain was better in the 1970s under Margaret Thatcher mused Ken.

For once I agree with Red Ken. London today is unrecognisable to the London of the 70's. Labour's nightmare vision of a multi-ethnic, multicultural ghetto has come to fruition, and even Red Ken doesn't much care for it.

Gone are the days when an Englishman can call England home, and gone are the days when the British working man could rely on British jobs and affordable housing. Thanks to a decade of New Labour, only immigrants and the very rich have flourished in London.

You reap what you sow Ken, so it's no good begging for forgiveness, because all of Thatchers hard work was undone by your lot in a long campaign of social engineering and e-cleansing. Complain all you want Mr Livingstone, but it's all too little too late. Britain R.I.P
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    OmrafOmraf Posts: 177
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    I'm going to reply to this against my better judgement, but a factual point Thatcher was the eighties.
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    The PopeThe Pope Posts: 45
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    Omraf wrote: »
    I'm going to reply to this against my better judgement, but a factual point Thatcher was the eighties.

    Are you certain? I could have sworn 1979 was in the 70's.
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    sensoriasensoria Posts: 4,682
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    The Pope wrote: »
    Failed and depressed former London Mayor Ken Livingstone has finally woken up to reality and admits Britain had got worse under the last Labour Government – Britain was better in the 1970s under Margaret Thatcher mused Ken.

    For once I agree with Red Ken. London today is unrecognisable to the London of the 70's. Labour's nightmare vision of a multi-ethnic, multicultural ghetto has come to fruition, and even Red Ken doesn't much care for it.

    Gone are the days when an Englishman can call England home, and gone are the days when the British working man could rely on British jobs and affordable housing. Thanks to a decade of New Labour, only immigrants and the very rich have flourished in London.

    You reap what you sow Ken, so it's no good begging for forgiveness, because all of Thatchers hard work was undone by your lot in a long campaign of social engineering and e-cleansing. Complain all you want Mr Livingstone, but it's all too little too late. Britain R.I.P

    Brentmeister27 I still call England home.
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    Peter the GreatPeter the Great Posts: 14,230
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    The Pope wrote: »
    Are you certain? I could have sworn 1979 was in the 70's.
    she was in power for 8 months in the 70's and for the whole of the 80's so most people would associate Thatcher with the 80's not the 70's.
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    BobbyNoMatesBobbyNoMates Posts: 1,195
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    I'd imagine they were for him - he was in office at that point, instead of trotting out bollocks on LBC like nowadays.

    Anyway - since I'm a product of the London multicultural ghetto, (where my Jamaican father and Irish mother met in the 70s ;) ) I actually quite like the way London has changed. I love that I can go into any chicken/kebab shop, flash my Darkie membership card (because you can never tell with us mixed race lads, might just be a heavy tan) and then all us brown-faces just sit around talking about how to overthrow white society. Can't beat an ethnic revolution chat over a nice halal meal!
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    andyknandykn Posts: 66,849
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    The Pope wrote: »
    Failed and depressed former London Mayor Ken Livingstone has finally woken up to reality and admits Britain had got worse under the last Labour Government – Britain was better in the 1970s under Margaret Thatcher mused Ken.

    For once I agree with Red Ken. London today is unrecognisable to the London of the 70's. Labour's nightmare vision of a multi-ethnic, multicultural ghetto has come to fruition, and even Red Ken doesn't much care for it.

    Gone are the days when an Englishman can call England home, and gone are the days when the British working man could rely on British jobs and affordable housing. Thanks to a decade of New Labour, only immigrants and the very rich have flourished in London.

    You reap what you sow Ken, so it's no good begging for forgiveness, because all of Thatchers hard work was undone by your lot in a long campaign of social engineering and e-cleansing. Complain all you want Mr Livingstone, but it's all too little too late. Britain R.I.P
    Clueless. He's complaining about Thatcherite deregulation that Blair continued.

    And if you think immigration started in 1997 you are even more clueless.
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    northantsgirlnorthantsgirl Posts: 4,663
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    The Pope wrote: »
    Britain was better in the 1970s

    Yes Pope, it was the good old days before those free market right wingers buggered everything up.
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    jmclaughjmclaugh Posts: 63,997
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    He really ought to go back to his LBC show and bore the watsit off anyone listening to that.
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    MidnightFalconMidnightFalcon Posts: 15,016
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    Shysters always think things were better before they were rumbled.
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    OLD HIPPY GUYOLD HIPPY GUY Posts: 28,199
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    The Pope wrote: »
    Failed and depressed former London Mayor Ken Livingstone has finally woken up to reality and admits Britain had got worse under the last Labour Government – Britain was better in the 1970s under Margaret Thatcher mused Ken.

    For once I agree with Red Ken. London today is unrecognisable to the London of the 70's. Labour's nightmare vision of a multi-ethnic, multicultural ghetto has come to fruition, and even Red Ken doesn't much care for it.

    Gone are the days when an Englishman can call England home, and gone are the days when the British working man could rely on British jobs and affordable housing. Thanks to a decade of New Labour, only immigrants and the very rich have flourished in London.

    You reap what you sow Ken, so it's no good begging for forgiveness, because all of Thatchers hard work was undone by your lot in a long campaign of social engineering and e-cleansing. Complain all you want Mr Livingstone, but it's all too little too late. Britain R.I.P

    Crackin post, absolute bollocks, but quite funny all the same,
    I was 26 in 1979 whe "she" came to power, and brought to an end the best years of my life,

    By the way,...Edward Heath, British Prime Minister: 1970-74 Tory,
    Wilson (1974-76) and Callaghan (1976-79) Labour,

    the full and devastating effects of 'Thatcherism' (on the 'industrial' working class) weren't felt until the 80s were under way,

    I know this, because I LIVED through it and still remember, and will never forget the sheer soul destroying misery and the devastating effect she had on me, my family, and almost everyone I know/knew, as she waged class warfare against the working class,

    So yeah, I can totally agree, life 'before Thatcher' "BT" was better for that working class of this great nation, than it was 'after Thatcher' "AT"
    But I think it has very little to do with immigration, no matter how much you wish it had,
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    Get Den WattsGet Den Watts Posts: 6,039
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    Things were better before Red Ken tried to turn London into his personal fiefdom. He just sounds bitter because the voters in "his" city rejected him.
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    paulschapmanpaulschapman Posts: 35,536
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    The Pope wrote: »
    Are you certain? I could have sworn 1979 was in the 70's.

    May 4th 1979 - but I somehow doubt he was referring to May - Dec 1979 but more likely 1974-1979 when we had first had a Labour government and then the Lib/Lab pact - and I think he is wrong that it was better. (IMHO)
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    AnnsyreAnnsyre Posts: 109,504
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    I remember the loony left in ILEA. They ruined the education system.

    In 1972 the electoral system was reformed to introduce single-member constituencies for the election after the 1973 contest, and extend the term of office to four years. Labour fought the 1973 election on a strongly socialist platform and won with 57 seats to 33 for the Conservatives. The Liberals won two seats.

    The GLC's hopes under the Labour administration of Reg Goodwin were badly affected by the oil crisis of 1974. Massive inflation which when combined with the GLC's £1.6 billion debt led to heavy rate increases (200% in total before the next election in 1977) and unpopular budget cuts. Some months before the 1977 elections the Labour Group began to split. A left group, including Ken Livingstone, denounced the election manifesto of the party.

    Such happy days,
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    David TeeDavid Tee Posts: 22,833
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    The music was better.

    ....that's about it.
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    paulschapmanpaulschapman Posts: 35,536
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    David Tee wrote: »
    The music was better.

    ....that's about it.

    Only before 1975 ;)

    Once punk came in it went rapidly downhill
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    Anyway - since I'm a product of the London multicultural ghetto, (where my Jamaican father and Irish mother met in the 70s ;) ) I actually quite like the way London has changed. I love that I can go into any chicken/kebab shop, flash my Darkie membership card (because you can never tell with us mixed race lads, might just be a heavy tan) and then all us brown-faces just sit around talking about how to overthrow white society. Can't beat an ethnic revolution chat over a nice halal meal!

    I tried gettin' one of them "Darkie Cards" from Amazon....it was all going swimmingly until they asked fo photo ID. Bollocks !
    That's me stuck with the fish n chips then ! Bugger.
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    The PopeThe Pope Posts: 45
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    I'd imagine they were for him - he was in office at that point, instead of trotting out bollocks on LBC like nowadays.

    Anyway - since I'm a product of the London multicultural ghetto, (where my Jamaican father and Irish mother met in the 70s ;) ) I actually quite like the way London has changed. I love that I can go into any chicken/kebab shop, flash my Darkie membership card (because you can never tell with us mixed race lads, might just be a heavy tan) and then all us brown-faces just sit around talking about how to overthrow white society. Can't beat an ethnic revolution chat over a nice halal meal!

    On a recent trip to London I was accosted at least a dozen times from drugged up Jamaicans, creepy Nigerians and dodgy Romanians offering meth, crack cocaine, skunk and East-european (cheap cheap). Of course, being a decent, upstanding citizen I declined the offers and moved swiftly on.

    Away from central London I noticed a plethora of Hookah bars, kebab shops, halal butchers, Masjids and clothing stores selling burkhas and Islamic head gear. I regret my days visiting London are now long over.
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    stoatiestoatie Posts: 78,106
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    The Pope wrote: »
    I regret my days visiting London are now long over.

    I don't.

    Incidentally, how can they be "now long over", if you made "a recent trip"?
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    MartinPMartinP Posts: 31,358
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    The Pope wrote: »
    On a recent trip to London I was accosted at least a dozen times from drugged up Jamaicans, creepy Nigerians and dodgy Romanians offering meth, crack cocaine, skunk and East-european (cheap cheap). Of course, being a decent, upstanding citizen I declined the offers and moved swiftly on.

    Away from central London I noticed a plethora of Hookah bars, kebab shops, halal butchers, Masjids and clothing stores selling burkhas and Islamic head gear. I regret my days visiting London are now long over.

    Maybe you should go to a nicer part of town. I was walking down Hampstead High Street and up Parliament Hill the other weekend and didn't notice any of this :)
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    BobbyNoMatesBobbyNoMates Posts: 1,195
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    The Pope wrote: »
    On a recent trip to London I was accosted at least a dozen times from drugged up Jamaicans, creepy Nigerians and dodgy Romanians offering meth, crack cocaine, skunk and East-european (cheap cheap).

    Really? I get offered drugs on the street maybe once a week. I say no and get on with my life. Where were you when you were offered drugs at least 12 times by this seven-nation army?

    And how did they 'accost' you? Because smart dealing technique is usually to mumble 'skunk, skunk, coke, coke' as pedestrians go past, not step out in front of someone and stop them from walking on, which is likely to attract police attention quite quickly.

    Needless to say, there are a few elements to this tale that makes me think you're lying. Shocker!
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    paulschapmanpaulschapman Posts: 35,536
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    The Pope wrote: »
    On a recent trip to London I was accosted at least a dozen times from drugged up Jamaicans, creepy Nigerians and dodgy Romanians offering meth, crack cocaine, skunk and East-european (cheap cheap). Of course, being a decent, upstanding citizen I declined the offers and moved swiftly on.

    Where on earth were you in London to go through this - I have lived there for 15 years and never been offered anything like this.
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    john176bramleyjohn176bramley Posts: 25,049
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    The Pope wrote: »
    On a recent trip to London I was accosted at least a dozen times from drugged up Jamaicans, creepy Nigerians and dodgy Romanians offering meth, crack cocaine, skunk and East-european (cheap cheap). Of course, being a decent, upstanding citizen I declined the offers and moved swiftly on.

    Away from central London I noticed a plethora of Hookah bars, kebab shops, halal butchers, Masjids and clothing stores selling burkhas and Islamic head gear. I regret my days visiting London are now long over.

    You will tend to meet these sort of people when cruising the streets looking for a 'temporary female companion'.
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    Sniffle774Sniffle774 Posts: 20,290
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    The Pope wrote: »
    On a recent trip to London I was accosted at least a dozen times from drugged up Jamaicans, creepy Nigerians and dodgy Romanians offering meth, crack cocaine, skunk and East-european (cheap cheap). Of course, being a decent, upstanding citizen I declined the offers and moved swiftly on. .

    Must just be the way you look, never happened to me and I am in London every week. I did get offered coke once on a street corner but that was by some wide boy cockney type. My mate brought some only to find out later it was chalk powder :D More fool him and as you can imagine the piss take is still valid many many months down the road..
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    stoatiestoatie Posts: 78,106
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    Old man thinks things were better when he was young shock.
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    gummy mummygummy mummy Posts: 26,600
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    The Pope wrote: »
    Failed and depressed former London Mayor Ken Livingstone has finally woken up to reality and admits Britain had got worse under the last Labour Government – Britain was better in the 1970s under Margaret Thatcher mused Ken.

    For once I agree with Red Ken. London today is unrecognisable to the London of the 70's. Labour's nightmare vision of a multi-ethnic, multicultural ghetto has come to fruition, and even Red Ken doesn't much care for it.

    From your link..
    Mr Livingstone, who lost to Tory candidate Boris Johnson last week in the race to become London Mayor, said that the decline began under Margaret Thatcher. Mrs Thatcher was elected in 1979.

    It's nice that you agree with him but I have to say I'm a bit surprised.
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