Compulsory Social health Care Plan

TremseTremse Posts: 864
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8148116.stm

Anyone else angry about this propsal?
People in England may be forced to pay as much as £20,000 on retirement to help fund the social care system under plans being put forward by ministers.

It is one of three options being proposed by the government alongside top-ups and insurance.

Okay, the NHS is in dire trouble but how dare the Government force this on people who've worked all their lives, paid their tax & national insurance as well as contributions into a retirement fund, only to have £20k snatched away and squandered by an incompetent Government!

This is like the 1970s all over again when Labour brought the country to it's knees and those who could, left the UK.

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  • LostFoolLostFool Posts: 90,650
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    The problem with this is that every proposal is unfair to someone. You could work all of your life, save carefully and then drop down dead a week after retiring (just as a family friend did recently). That would be £20,000 wasted.

    Or you might not ever have worked, not have a penny of savings and live to 109.

    Increased tax and NI for everyone isn't going to be popular.

    Compulsory insurance schemes - again an extra burden on employers and workers.

    The one certainty is that health and social care is going to get a lot more expensive. If someone can solve it there's probably a Nobel Prize for Economics waiting.
  • LyricalisLyricalis Posts: 57,958
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    LostFool wrote: »
    The problem with this is that every proposal is unfair to someone. You could work all of your life, save carefully and then drop down dead a week after retiring (just as a family friend did recently). That would be £20,000 wasted.

    Or you might not ever have worked, not have a penny of savings and live to 109.

    Increased tax and NI for everyone isn't going to be popular.

    Compulsory insurance schemes - again an extra burden on employers and workers.

    The one certainty is that health and social care is going to get a lot more expensive. If someone can solve it there's probably a Nobel Prize for Economics waiting.

    There are quite a lot of fit and healthy 55-70 year olds out there who would love to have carried on working but employers just aren't interested. If we cured most of the age related health problems tomorrow we'd just be moving people from pensions to other benefits. Until age discrimination is properly tackled and our banks and large companies are no longer run by the greedy and the selfish and invest money properly rather than for their own short term gain there will be solving this problem.

    Why can't swine flu just kill the greedy pigs who caused this recession? That would save companies huge amounts of money and free up the positions for people who might actually have the talent to do the job properly.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 879
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    Swine flu could solve a lot of problems :D On a serious note i don't really know how any country is going to solve this ever increasing problem as there is a massive overcrowding problem everywhere. I really don't think people in the future will be able to afford the quality of life they have had over the past 10 years.
  • LyricalisLyricalis Posts: 57,958
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    casper_uk wrote: »
    Swine flu could solve a lot of problems :D On a serious note i don't really know how any country is going to solve this ever increasing problem as there is a massive overcrowding problem everywhere. I really don't think people in the future will be able to afford the quality of life they have had over the past 10 years.

    To be fair, neither could many of us hence the current situation ;).
  • Lucem FerreLucem Ferre Posts: 8,224
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    casper_uk wrote: »
    Swine flu could solve a lot of problems :D On a serious note...

    I think it is a serious note. Unless we have a widespread killer diseases/virus or a major world war (and fairly soon), we're all up shit creek without a paddle.
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