You keep saying things like this, DD. I doubt if any person here would deny that anyone who LEAVES their children is causing long term damage. No question.
Pa did not do that. He left their mother. She then made it difficult for him to see them because she took them away, and then she went on holiday on her own. Since then they have had joint custody. Therefore, he did not leave his children.
To compare him to a parent who has little or no contact with their children is wrong and unfair.
I promise this is the last time I'll refer to it.:yawn:
If KP was such a nightmare why did Peteybabes leave his children in her care?
Why didn't he take his children with him?
Please..............nobody bother answering my post because I'm obviously in a minority of one.
I've made my point and care little whether anyone agrees with me or not.:)
I promise this is the last time I'll refer to it.:yawn:
If KP was such a nightmare why did Peteybabes leave his children in her care?
Why didn't he take his children with him?
Please..............nobody bother answering my post because I'm obviously in a minority of one.
I've made my point and care little whether anyone agrees with me or not.:)
You asked two questions then did a passive aggressive "NO! don't answer that!" that PA would be proud of!
You decide whether you should delete a post. Not me. I am merely questioning the fact that you asked questions but demanded that we did not answer them.
Because I tend to ignore most demands...I have no idea - perhaps she is a much better mother than wife(one would have to hope this is true). Perhaps he had not been able to find somewhere to go that would not involve moving schools. Perhaps no camera crews were available. Perhaps he did not wish to remove them from their nannies, schools, housekeepers, homes and relatives.
Either way, the fact that he is still their father, still very involved in their lives and still absolutely not someone who has abdicated fatherhood negates your claim that he left his children.
I have seen children who have been left by a parent - no contact, no support. That is a very different situation than the PwiceAndre kids face.
You asked two questions then did a passive aggressive "NO! don't answer that!" that PA would be proud of!
You decide whether you should delete a post. Not me. I am merely questioning the fact that you asked questions but demanded that we did not answer them.
Because I tend to ignore most demands...I have no idea - perhaps she is a much better mother than wife(one would have to hope this is true). Perhaps he had not been able to find somewhere to go that would not involve moving schools. Perhaps no camera crews were available. Perhaps he did not wish to remove them from their nannies, schools, housekeepers, homes, and relatives.
Either way, the fact that he is still their father, still very involved in their lives and still absolutely not someone who has abdicated fatherhood negates your claim that he left his children.
I have seen children who have been left by a parent - no contact, no support. That is a very different situation than the PwiceAndre kids face.
Truce?
I won't change my opinion and don't expect anyone to change theirs.:)
I promise this is the last time I'll refer to it.:yawn:
If KP was such a nightmare why did Peteybabes leave his children in her care?
Why didn't he take his children with him?
Please..............nobody bother answering my post because I'm obviously in a minority of one.
I've made my point and care little whether anyone agrees with me or not.:)
Make that two DD , he walked, no matter how some dress it !
I won't change my opinion and don't expect anyone to change theirs.:)
And nor should you DD..He did walk out..no explanation and PHONED his wife to end their marriage ..the act of a loving husband/father...I think not .... Where were those children when he left her? At home with the nannies I assume because KP was away at the time
And nor should you DD..He did walk out..no explanation and PHONED his wife to end their marriage ..the act of a loving father... Where were those children when he left her? At home with the nannies I assume because KP was away at the time
Then he phoned the press to tell them, knowing his kids were travelling home with their mum and the press hot on their heels :mad: and thats why she took them away!
He said all this on his show, the words came out of his own mouth - I remember hearing them and blinking and making this :eek: face - and they were: "I know that in two years time I'll be playing Wembley again.” And then made that 'pleased with himself and the power of his own mind' face.
He didn't say he'd like to play Wembley, or that it would be a dream to play Wembley, he said categorically he would be playing Wembley in 2 yrs time.
Ah, but did he say 2 years from when?
He might have meant within 2 years of humans finding the key to eternal life and hell freezing over.:)
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I promise this is the last time I'll refer to it.:yawn:
If KP was such a nightmare why did Peteybabes leave his children in her care?
Why didn't he take his children with him?
Please..............nobody bother answering my post because I'm obviously in a minority of one.
I've made my point and care little whether anyone agrees with me or not.:)
Then why ask questions?
Here is another question.:)
Do you want me to delete my post?
You asked two questions then did a passive aggressive "NO! don't answer that!" that PA would be proud of!
You decide whether you should delete a post. Not me. I am merely questioning the fact that you asked questions but demanded that we did not answer them.
Because I tend to ignore most demands...I have no idea - perhaps she is a much better mother than wife(one would have to hope this is true). Perhaps he had not been able to find somewhere to go that would not involve moving schools. Perhaps no camera crews were available. Perhaps he did not wish to remove them from their nannies, schools, housekeepers, homes and relatives.
Either way, the fact that he is still their father, still very involved in their lives and still absolutely not someone who has abdicated fatherhood negates your claim that he left his children.
I have seen children who have been left by a parent - no contact, no support. That is a very different situation than the PwiceAndre kids face.
Feeling queasy yet?
Truce?
I won't change my opinion and don't expect anyone to change theirs.:)
'At least 2 No.1s on it', as I recall. Again, horse's mouth.
And since that hasn't happened, we'll just have to assume that those potential No.1s were in fact No.2s.
Stop, Fizgig. I'm eating.
I am always open to having my POV changed, it's why I ask so many questions.
You had me at lubed...:vom:
Make that two DD , he walked, no matter how some dress it !
And nor should you DD..He did walk out..no explanation and PHONED his wife to end their marriage ..the act of a loving husband/father...I think not .... Where were those children when he left her? At home with the nannies I assume because KP was away at the time
Did they even get into the top 10?
OK.:D
Thanks guys.
Its just not worth saying any more.;)
Then he phoned the press to tell them, knowing his kids were travelling home with their mum and the press hot on their heels :mad: and thats why she took them away!
OK DD
He could not pimp out his kids if he had left them, could he?
Ah, but did he say 2 years from when?
He might have meant within 2 years of humans finding the key to eternal life and hell freezing over.:)
That last line made me laugh then Artless ...
You can't have it all ways, Betty!
Oooooh but I can ;)
I agree Jimmy but it does appear when you are THAT biased against someone then any logic goes out of the window.
It's an opinion ..which is what DS is all about surely
Thanks BB.;)