And you're being arrogant. Not the way to earn respect.
I think anyone who wishes to post highly critical comments of the contestants - "dreadful", "awful", "appalling, really bad", "nothing good there technically at all" in your case - should do so under their full name, instead of hiding behind an anonymous username.
I have not asked for respect for myself. I couldn't care less what you or anyone else think pf me. I was refering to a comment aimed at Bendymixer, who is a Pro. Get your facts right.
As for anonymous username....excuse me but what part of Jennifer do not not understand?
I take it that Mirliton is your name?
Caroline lost energy and became a little lumpen and heavy-footed in the middle section of her supposedly faultless dance, so for me it wasn't worth a 40.
I loved both of Frankie's dances tonight, both choreo and execution.
Caroline may have lost energy in the middle of her salsa a bit, but I barely saw a step in Frankie's AT that I didn't think was a little bit suspect, and some bits of it were unfortunately downright ugly. I don't understand how anyone can think how she got out of that first drop was in any way well executed!
And I get that she was supposed to be a stiff doll in the Rumba, but it just looked extremely awkward and there was no emotive connection in either dance.
I thought it was fantastic. Could you point out what wasn't good about it?
Even to my untrained eye (I dance ballroom and Latin but have only ever done the odd AT workshop) it was extremely messy and awkward, the transitions weren't smooth, especially getting out of that first drop, and there were lots of very awkward steps. I wouldn't have minded the vacant expression on her face if she's danced well (see Alesha's AT for an example of fairly decent dancing overcoming nervous acting performance), but it was just all a bit of a jumble.
It shall come as no surprise to you that I didn't see it like that at all Was Caroline's better in this respect? For me, Frankie's was miles ahead of Caroline's AT purely for the passion Frankie had in hers (and Caroline looked quite vacant)
I thought Frankie looked equally vacant! (I'm not a fan of Caroline's AT either). Simon's the only one this series who's done a remotely good AT in my opinion.
I think Frankie had a good week, saved her best - so far- for the semi. Really liked both dances and Kevin has really worked on her feet as they are much improved.
I'm still trying to understand what Frankie owned tonight. She competently danced two dances which would have been "wow" if it was week 5 but neither performance was worthy of a semi-final. I like Frankie and thought she had potential but, she seems to have plateaued and I'm unsure whether it's her fault or that of her self absorbed partner.
Exactly. Feels like Kevin has gone OTT on twee. FGS why?
Frankie has not improved much at all. Not keen on her Argentine tango. She always has a stilted performance
Agree.......her legs looked weak, like jelly, the lifts, as always looked laden and heavy, rarely fluid.
The first dance was a cop out, twee and a ridiculous excuse from Kevin re; their partners watching......it's a performance, it doesn't have to be sex on legs...however it cleverly avoided spotlighting her poor technique and the critique all the others have had from attempting traditional ( strictly) steps...instead we had her being dragged on her arse across the floor by her ankle...that made me laugh though
I have not asked for respect for myself. I couldn't care less what you or anyone else think pf me. I was refering to a comment aimed at Bendymixer, who is a Pro. Get your facts right.
As for anonymous username....excuse me but what part of Jennifer do not not understand?
I take it that Mirliton is your name?
And what part of "full name" do you not understand?
And what part of "full name" do you not understand?
Christ you're rude. What difference is there whether post my full name or not. You would not believe anything I say ....would you. Does anyone else post using their full name....
Its clear to me by your ridiculous comments that you know nothing about the Ballroom and Latin dances and you object to anyone that has a different and more informed opinion than you. IF you take a look inside the Ballroom/Latin questions thread, I;m sure you will find it an informative and interesting read.
I have nothing to prove to you,I know what I know.
Christ you're rude. What difference is there whether post my full name or not. You would not believe anything I say ....would you. Does anyone else post using their full name....
Its clear to me by your ridiculous comments that you know nothing about the Ballroom and Latin dances and you object to anyone that has a different and more informed opinion than you. IF you take a look inside the Ballroom/Latin questions thread, I;m sure you will find it an informative and interesting read.
I have nothing to prove to you,I know what I know.
I think it's clear from your posts such as this who the rude one is.
She clearly didn't 'own' the evening. She didn't top the leaderboard.
I most definitely prefer her to Caroline but that's not saying much. I'd rather a chap won.
Who knows? Everything can change after the Showdance. Bring it on. But she didn't come first so she didn't 'own' the show. Pedantic perhaps. But accurate.
Frankie is my third favourite (after Caroline and Simon). She hasn't really improved any since week 1 but some of her dances have been great. I hope she gets to the final but I'm not sure if I would vote for her.
Mirliton I think you are being extremely rude. No one sensible uses their full name on forums and you haven't either. Aldo why does that make someone's opinion more of lesson valid?
Mirliton I think you are being extremely rude. No one sensible uses their full name on forums and you haven't either. Aldo why does that make someone's opinion more of lesson valid?
Indeed, we are all entitled to opinions, but sometimes facts are facts in dancing and you can't ignore that. People with a trained eye, and there are quite a few on this forum, can spot errors and lack of proper technique at a glance.
Unforunately the lead in the AT was Kevin's fault. They have had some wonderful AT experts on SCD trying to show them how to do it and give helpful suggestions. Sadly, they are not always listened to.
This AT did not have an expert involved and it showed. I would have loved to had the chance to show Frankie how to use her legs and feet. I would have liked to have explained to Kevin how to walk, lead and find the connection he so clearly did not grasp.
Frankie is lovely, but she's not had the best teaching from the Grimsby Gerbil. She has a beautiful top line but from the waist down she is weak. Her Latin is not good and has not improved. Kevin is too into Kevin to ever be a good teacher.
I agree with your points here and after, but I thought I saw on ITT that a guest choreographer was in with them for this to help with the AT.
And what part of "full name" do you not understand?
Can I suggest you take the time to read the rules of posting on digital spy? Attacking people unecessarily is neither clever nor grown up. Hounding someone is not good manners either. Jennifer F has tried to be reasonable.
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I have not asked for respect for myself. I couldn't care less what you or anyone else think pf me. I was refering to a comment aimed at Bendymixer, who is a Pro. Get your facts right.
As for anonymous username....excuse me but what part of Jennifer do not not understand?
I take it that Mirliton is your name?
Caroline may have lost energy in the middle of her salsa a bit, but I barely saw a step in Frankie's AT that I didn't think was a little bit suspect, and some bits of it were unfortunately downright ugly. I don't understand how anyone can think how she got out of that first drop was in any way well executed!
And I get that she was supposed to be a stiff doll in the Rumba, but it just looked extremely awkward and there was no emotive connection in either dance.
AS is quite often foxtrot based though, and Caroline's was!
Even to my untrained eye (I dance ballroom and Latin but have only ever done the odd AT workshop) it was extremely messy and awkward, the transitions weren't smooth, especially getting out of that first drop, and there were lots of very awkward steps. I wouldn't have minded the vacant expression on her face if she's danced well (see Alesha's AT for an example of fairly decent dancing overcoming nervous acting performance), but it was just all a bit of a jumble.
I thought Frankie looked equally vacant! (I'm not a fan of Caroline's AT either). Simon's the only one this series who's done a remotely good AT in my opinion.
The only At that gave me goosebumps besides Simon's.
She was AMAZING :cool:
Sigh...the best AT in this show rarely get above a 38.
BEST dance of the night imo tied with Simon's foxtrot.
Exactly. Feels like Kevin has gone OTT on twee. FGS why?
I didn't mean it as a personal insult to Caroline, just that she wasn't really connecting with, or passionate, in her AT.
No, but Simon has guns
True. Agree
Agree.......her legs looked weak, like jelly, the lifts, as always looked laden and heavy, rarely fluid.
The first dance was a cop out, twee and a ridiculous excuse from Kevin re; their partners watching......it's a performance, it doesn't have to be sex on legs...however it cleverly avoided spotlighting her poor technique and the critique all the others have had from attempting traditional ( strictly) steps...instead we had her being dragged on her arse across the floor by her ankle...that made me laugh though
And what part of "full name" do you not understand?
Christ you're rude. What difference is there whether post my full name or not. You would not believe anything I say ....would you. Does anyone else post using their full name....
Its clear to me by your ridiculous comments that you know nothing about the Ballroom and Latin dances and you object to anyone that has a different and more informed opinion than you. IF you take a look inside the Ballroom/Latin questions thread, I;m sure you will find it an informative and interesting read.
I have nothing to prove to you,I know what I know.
I think it's clear from your posts such as this who the rude one is.
I most definitely prefer her to Caroline but that's not saying much. I'd rather a chap won.
Who knows? Everything can change after the Showdance. Bring it on. But she didn't come first so she didn't 'own' the show. Pedantic perhaps. But accurate.
Noted, with apologies.
Indeed, we are all entitled to opinions, but sometimes facts are facts in dancing and you can't ignore that. People with a trained eye, and there are quite a few on this forum, can spot errors and lack of proper technique at a glance.
I agree with your points here and after, but I thought I saw on ITT that a guest choreographer was in with them for this to help with the AT.
Go Frankie!!
Can I suggest you take the time to read the rules of posting on digital spy? Attacking people unecessarily is neither clever nor grown up. Hounding someone is not good manners either. Jennifer F has tried to be reasonable.