Yes - but in so far as they are all still :rolleyes:, to varying degrees, in thrall to the "cult of neoliberalism", wherein lies all the causation for the 'Crash of 2008' and the 'Great Recession', I'm not expecting "change" - because only a robustly 'New Liberal' path can deliver that
The wretched ideological God of the Right that is the "cult" needs to go the same way as that wretched ideological God of the Left that was revolutionary socialism
I ask because to do a deal to gain power, all three parties will have to alter, dilute or abandon policies. Maybe these were the very policies that attracted you to vote for them. Maybe you are appalled by how quickly your leader abandoned his principles.
Is it disingenuous to extoll principles in your manifesto, and drop them even before you take power? Once that happens, you are no longer the party that people voted for.
I ask because to do a deal to gain power, all three parties will have to alter, dilute or abandon policies. Maybe these were the very policies that attracted you to vote for them. Maybe you are appalled by how quickly your leader abandoned his principles.
Is it disingenuous to extoll principles in your manifesto, and drop them even before you take power? Once that happens, you are no longer the party that people voted for.
If you don't have a majority, you have to face the fact that your more doctrinal policies would be voted down. So you work to get as many of your policies supported as possible. That's the reality.
It will not matter to be honest.
Labour will have a new leader so they will regain many seats but not enough to get a majority.Cons will lose some and Libs also.
The result another hung parliament.
Labour are stronger than the Tories were in 97 after this election, so with a new leader and a new shadow cabinet and a better manifesto, it might be interesting.
I honestly think whichever coalition gets in is going to try their damnedest to avoid another election so soon. The parties have all spent every penny they had. None of the Big Three could afford another campaign so soon.
Yes, but it isn't going to happen, and we shouldn't want it to, the money markets need to see stability and a very definate action being taken to get to work on reducing the debt.
Cameron wants more foreign investors and business coming to the UK, and reducing corporation tax should help achieve that, he also wants to bring more manufacturing, and ensure government contracts are offered to small businessess, that is going to mean jobs, and as manufacturing is mainly the business of the north, who do it so well, it should help that region. This takes time, not a few months.
As I now live in a very safe Labour seat (my MP massively increased his majority to 10,000 over the Tories even though the seat was one of their top Scottish targets) my vote doesn't really matter but I'd definitely stay with the SNP who are stuck on about 9%.
Iwouldn't be so sure that there is going to be another election that soon. If the Tories and the LibDems reach a deal of any sort the LibDems are the last ones forcing a new election because many of their supporters are very angry with them for siding with the Tories and the LIBDems could plummet in any new elections.
Only if there is a major international crisis such as a war against Iran and the Tories want to take the UK into it I can't believe that the LibDems would want to support such a move.
Ah, bless yer little cotton socks. Only 17. I admire you for knowing your own mind so young. I used to be 17 you know.
The only talk within Sixth Form last week was of the election. Mostly consisting I might add of a Conservative person arguing with a Labour person! The only two, I think, the majority going for Liberal Democrat - not that it made much difference in a Labour safe seat.
The only talk within Sixth Form last week was of the election. Mostly consisting I might add of a Conservative person arguing with a Labour person! The only two, I think, the majority going for Liberal Democrat - not that it made much difference in a Labour safe seat.
What a shame. It probably would have been nice if the school/college could have set up some kind of debate. On your last point, that's the trouble with safe seats isn't it? It sometimes doesn't matter where you put your cross, you just know that the same party will get in and things will not change in your constituency. They don't need to if nothing is at stake. Good luck with everything, you must have exams coming up.
Most of us, myself included, live in safe constituency seats and a new election may make little difference. That said; I wish Miliband all the luck in the world
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Or SNP . No, probably the Greens.
The wretched ideological God of the Right that is the "cult" needs to go the same way as that wretched ideological God of the Left that was revolutionary socialism
Is it disingenuous to extoll principles in your manifesto, and drop them even before you take power? Once that happens, you are no longer the party that people voted for.
If you don't have a majority, you have to face the fact that your more doctrinal policies would be voted down. So you work to get as many of your policies supported as possible. That's the reality.
Labour will have a new leader so they will regain many seats but not enough to get a majority.Cons will lose some and Libs also.
The result another hung parliament.
Labour are stronger than the Tories were in 97 after this election, so with a new leader and a new shadow cabinet and a better manifesto, it might be interesting.
Cameron wants more foreign investors and business coming to the UK, and reducing corporation tax should help achieve that, he also wants to bring more manufacturing, and ensure government contracts are offered to small businessess, that is going to mean jobs, and as manufacturing is mainly the business of the north, who do it so well, it should help that region. This takes time, not a few months.
Last Thursday I voted no one, because I was too young. In Autumn, I'll be 18, and voting Lib Dem.
Ah, bless yer little cotton socks. Only 17. I admire you for knowing your own mind so young. I used to be 17 you know.
Only if there is a major international crisis such as a war against Iran and the Tories want to take the UK into it I can't believe that the LibDems would want to support such a move.
The only talk within Sixth Form last week was of the election. Mostly consisting I might add of a Conservative person arguing with a Labour person! The only two, I think, the majority going for Liberal Democrat - not that it made much difference in a Labour safe seat.
What a shame. It probably would have been nice if the school/college could have set up some kind of debate. On your last point, that's the trouble with safe seats isn't it? It sometimes doesn't matter where you put your cross, you just know that the same party will get in and things will not change in your constituency. They don't need to if nothing is at stake. Good luck with everything, you must have exams coming up.
Either Conservative or Lib Dem.
However the Lib Dem vote collapsed,
So in the Autumn its back to the Monster Raving Loonies
My vote counts to a degree and I was happy with the outcome in my constituency.
They dont count the labour vote here, they weigh it.