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Sherlock - BBC Drama (Part 3)

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    Cheetah666Cheetah666 Posts: 16,036
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    About the GPSed laptop; didn't they know where CAM lived before?

    Probably, but without the GPS they wouldn't have known where Sherlock had gone with the laptop.
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    nethwennethwen Posts: 23,374
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    solenoid wrote: »
    Magnusson could only be effective against people who had secrets. Not everyone has an important secret.

    "Everyone has secrets, John", said Sherlock in TSoT. ^_^

    Which reminds me; I did laugh at Sherlock's humungous list of 'pressure points' depicted in Magnussen's mind palace. :D

    Not that I caught what was on the list because all I was thinking throughout the episode was "what the diddly squat is going on?" :confused::blush::D
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 7,038
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    16caerhos wrote: »
    One thing that stands out to me is Sherlock saying Mary carefully calculated the shot so as not to kill him, but, the thing is, he did die. It was his need to protect his best friend that brought him back and unless Mary is unbelievably clever, like, Sherlock clever, there's no way she could have banked on him using John to stay alive; "Oh, it'll all be fine. He'll just go into his mind palace, work out the best possible way to limit the amount of damage done to him by my gunshot and then he'll think of John to revive himself."

    They probably should have put it down to pure luck, but that would mean Mary didn't intend for him to live, thus making her irredeemable (more so than she already is in the eyes of some fans!). Perhaps she shouldn't have even shot him at all, which I don't really understand why she did to be honest...

    I hope it's because she actually turns out to be a real villain and Janine kills her as pay back , because she bludgeoned her and left her for dead too
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    nethwennethwen Posts: 23,374
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    I'm the same. I quite enjoyed it when it was on, but if the 2 previous series had left me in this state of indifference I would never have bought the DVDs and rewatched them loads of times, much less described myself as "Sherlocked" in my location!

    I was thinking after reading some of your earlier posts "aww I hope Granny doesn't change her location". :(

    I know what you mean though. I don't think I'll be so engrossed in discussing 'is Moriarty really back and how did he fake his death?' et al in any way like I did with Sherlock at the end of the RF episode either (ahh, happy days!).


    John said "I don't understand" and CAM said "You should have that on a T-shirt" Later John said "I still don't understand" and CAM said "That's the back of the T-shirt". :D

    Ha ha! :D
    fiveinabed wrote: »

    And LOL! :D:D
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    marsch_labbmarsch_labb Posts: 687
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    nethwen wrote: »
    "Everyone has secrets, John", said Sherlock in TSoT. ^_^

    Which reminds me; I did laugh at Sherlock's humungous list of 'pressure points' depicted in Magnussen's mind palace. :D

    Not that I caught what was on the list because all I was thinking throughout the episode was "what the diddly squat is going on?" :confused::blush::D

    In an earlier post of mine:

    It looked like a lot of text in the pressure point category but it was the following in a loop:
    Irene Adler (see file)
    Jim Moriarty (see file)
    Redbeard (see file)
    Hounds of the Baskerville
    Opium
    John Watson

    The one i don't understand is Baskerville. How is that a pressure point?
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    nethwennethwen Posts: 23,374
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    In an earlier post of mine:

    It looked like a lot of text in the pressure point category but it was the following in a loop:
    Irene Adler (see file)
    Jim Moriarty (see file)
    Redbeard (see file)
    Hounds of the Baskerville
    Opium
    John Watson

    The one i don't understand is Baskerville. How is that a pressure point?

    'See file(s)'!!!

    *snort*
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    Virgil TracyVirgil Tracy Posts: 26,806
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    That wouldn't work because John could walk in at any moment. Her whole motivation is to keep the truth from John.

    in which case it's gonna be worse if she's just shot his best friend !
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    Virgil TracyVirgil Tracy Posts: 26,806
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    can someone tell me - why did Janine let Sherlock in when her boss was still there ?
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    fiveinabedfiveinabed Posts: 1,219
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    can someone tell me - why did Janine let Sherlock in when her boss was still there ?

    Cos she's a human being, a girl in love, and she thought he was going to propose to her. #off-guard-or-what!
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    Cheetah666Cheetah666 Posts: 16,036
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    can someone tell me - why did Janine let Sherlock in when her boss was still there ?

    Maybe she thought she'd tell him to stick his job anyway if she was marrying Sherlock Holmes.
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    zwixxxzwixxx Posts: 10,295
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    can someone tell me - why did Janine let Sherlock in when her boss was still there ?
    more importantly why didn't the computer system query why BigBossMan was trying to use the lift when he was already in his lofty offices ?
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    solenoidsolenoid Posts: 15,495
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    But he was allowing them to live, wasn't he? All three would have been alive, with Sherlock and Watson probably leaving in the helicopter, were it not for Sherlock shooting Magnusson :confused:

    If I was Sherlock I'd have deduced that at some point Magnusson was going to see to my demise, so perhaps shooting Magnusson first was the correct thing.
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    Virgil TracyVirgil Tracy Posts: 26,806
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    fiveinabed wrote: »
    Cos she's a human being, a girl in love, and she thought he was going to propose to her. #off-guard-or-what!

    c'mon , we've just been given quite a dramatic presentation of what the security in this place is like and CAM is quite a sinister figure , she's just gonna forget all that ? Plus her boss is still there !

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    Cheetah666Cheetah666 Posts: 16,036
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    c'mon , we've just been given quite a dramatic presentation of what the security in this place is like and CAM is quite a sinister figure , she's just gonna forget all that ? Plus her boss is still there !

    .

    When he was flicking Watson on the face, Magnusson laughingly speaks about how much Janine hates it when he does it to her. What would you think of your boss if he/she did that to you? If that was me I'd be planning to tell him to stick his job at the first opportunity. Maybe she thought Sherlock wielding an engagement ring was that opportunity.
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    fiveinabedfiveinabed Posts: 1,219
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    c'mon , we've just been given quite a dramatic presentation of what the security in this place is like and CAM is quite a sinister figure , she's just gonna forget all that ? Plus her boss is still there !

    .

    Have you met many women?
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    Joy DeanJoy Dean Posts: 21,346
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    does anyone else think that "Appledore" or "Appledoor" (?) was an anagram ? it just sounds like one of those words ... ?


    No.
    I just thought now would that be Appledore in Devon or in Kent?:)
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    Virgil TracyVirgil Tracy Posts: 26,806
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    did anyone else notice -

    when Sherlock gets shot and he's falling backwards it looks like they actually tilted the set because there's pot-plant in the background that slides across the floor !
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    Mairi_CameronMairi_Cameron Posts: 350
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    did anyone else notice -

    when Sherlock gets shot and he's falling backwards it looks like they actually tilted the set because there's pot-plant in the background that slides across the floor !

    I wasn't sure if I imagined that, actually thought it was a lamp, something definitely seemed to tip over with him, I'll double check (freeze frame!) when I rewatch!
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    marsch_labbmarsch_labb Posts: 687
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    fiveinabed wrote: »
    Cos she's a human being, a girl in love, and she thought he was going to propose to her. #off-guard-or-what!

    But didn't we learned at the end that she wasn't in love with Sherlock and did it all for articles in a paper?
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    sandydunesandydune Posts: 10,986
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    I wonder if Sherlock and Watson ever tell Mrs Hudson about their day of adventures because if they did, it would take awhile :D
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    Mairi_CameronMairi_Cameron Posts: 350
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    But didn't we learned at the end that she wasn't in love with Sherlock and did it all for articles in a paper?

    I thought that was her response to finding out Sherlock was only using her to get to Magnussen?
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    fiveinabedfiveinabed Posts: 1,219
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    But didn't we learned at the end that she wasn't in love with Sherlock and did it all for articles in a paper?

    Have you ever met any women?
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    nethwennethwen Posts: 23,374
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    c'mon , we've just been given quite a dramatic presentation of what the security in this place is like and CAM is quite a sinister figure , she's just gonna forget all that ? Plus her boss is still there !

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    What, old licky-flicky face?

    :kitty:
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    The GathererThe Gatherer Posts: 2,723
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    c'mon , we've just been given quite a dramatic presentation of what the security in this place is like and CAM is quite a sinister figure , she's just gonna forget all that ? Plus her boss is still there !

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    At the risk of getting shot at by his fans, this sums up what I hate about Moffat's work. It's all set pieces and dramatic twists and to hell with any realism. If realism gets in the way of Moffat's latest idea then he just ignores it. Examples in yesterday's show:

    Holmes and Watson getting access to CAM's office so easily
    And Mary too (no explanation of how she got in)
    Mary shooting Holmes in just the right place so that he doesn't die (even though there's a strong chance he will still die) and Holmes just accepting it
    Mary nearly killing Janine and Holmes just accepting it
    CAM giving away his secret
    No security at CAM's house
    Holmes shooting CAM
    Holmes exiled and is back 4 minutes later
    Yet another person back from the dead
    And probably lots of others I can't remember off hand.

    Sure it makes dramatic television, it fools the thick, lazy TV critics and mainstream viewers who let it wash over them, but it doesn't stand up to any sort of scrutiny as in any way realistic.
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