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Paedogeddon strikes Will Self
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I think this country has totally lost the plot now:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/questioned-for-taking-a-country-walk-with-his-son-even-will-self-couldnt-make-it-up-8773439.html
Who is to blame for this utter nonsense?? The media? The government? Society in general? It makes me SICK that a man can't take his son for a walk without someone getting the police out. And it's wondered why men don't want to be primary school teachers or work with kids.
As a society it's completely shameful.
Striding through the fields and rich-green everglades of the Yorkshire countryside, his 11-year-old son revelling in the rural bliss and clasping his trusty walking staff, the writer Will Self was within his rights to feel free and at ease.
What was to his mind a “blameless pursuit” appeared far more sinister to a college security guard, however, who contacted the police fearing the child was being led astray.
Mr Self’s ramble was brought to an abrupt end when he was hauled over to the roadside for questioning after being stopped by convoy of police cars. A protective custody officer was waiting in the wings in case his son had to be taken in to care by the social services.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/questioned-for-taking-a-country-walk-with-his-son-even-will-self-couldnt-make-it-up-8773439.html
Who is to blame for this utter nonsense?? The media? The government? Society in general? It makes me SICK that a man can't take his son for a walk without someone getting the police out. And it's wondered why men don't want to be primary school teachers or work with kids.
As a society it's completely shameful.
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What's happening to our western world?
Imagine you did see this bloke leading a kid around in what maybe a odd area to see it n and then later you find the kid is missing and has been murdered wouldn't it play on your mind that you could have stopped it.
But yes on the other hand everybody has a right to take their or a kid they have permission nt on a walk.
they should question that MORON who brought this up in the first place!
and tell him to MIND HIS OWN ******* BUSINESS!
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I expect they gave him a pat on the back and he felt very self-justified afterwards. What's to stop anyone at any time calling the police because they see a man with a kid? I think it's insane.
Like seeing an older man with a young thailand girl or boy as sex slave, people will judge on that.
You have to laugh don't you
Self, the college’s human resources director Kate Calvert wrote: “I understand that the guard observed you in a village north of Bishop Burton. It was now around 7.30pm to 8.00pm and you had also told the guard you were from London and clearly did not know the area. He is adamant that in alerting the police he acted in good faith and out of concern for both of your safety.”
Like that anyone who is lost and has kids with them should not be given directions but reported to police ( if it had been 5.30pm would the guard have found it less suspicious) , and god help any parents on holiday away from home with their children they too should all be reported to police. One thing I suppose if arrest figures are low the police could take this to heart and trawl Blackpool seafront, and if the kids are wearing swims suits then even more reason.
When will people get it into their heads there are no more paedophiles around today than ever before, its just that we hear more about it via the 24/7 media as thankfully victims report it more these days instead of sweeping it under the carpet as they did years ago.
Essentially, yes. Every man is a potential paedophile/rapist. I think something has gone seriously wrong somewhere, tbh.
It would be awful to know you'd seen an abducted child alive moments before they disappeared and not raised the alarm. But I step outside my house and every day I'm faced with adults walking with children. I don't report this, as most children are accompanied by a parent, family member or family friend when they leave the house when they are young.
It doesn't seem like Will Self was in an 'unusual' area - he was out walking with his kid, a pursuit that has been around for centuries. Does the college guard raise a signal every time an adult and a child walk past? Would he have raised an eyebrow if it had been Mrs. Self and said child? Men have it hard these days with children*; they go on about how absent fathers cause all sorts of problems but the second a man is seen doing a healthy activity with his child, there's someone there to shout 'paedo'.
*ETA: An unfortunate turn of phrase I used there.
Totally agree.
The chances of a child being abducted and murdered by a paedophile are vanishingly small. And as said already, there are no more paedos around now than there were fifty years ago. In the early 1920s a man on a motorbike tried to abduct my gran when she was about six. Such things have, unfortunately, been around forever. People don't just wake up and decide to abuse a child. It's not a fashion, ffs.
Yeah, and it's the gender thing as well. I was nearly abducted when I was about 3, by a woman. My mum took her eyes off me for a second in a shop only to see me being led towards the door by a youngish woman. Fortunately she caught me in time. I have no idea what she wanted as my mum was too shaken to report her before she left the shop.
The DS investigator on this thread to step in, well done.
It's still outrageous (and must have been quite humiliating and embarrassing) for a father to be quizzed as a potential paedophile for going for a walk with his young son.
It was this type of hysteria and paranoia surrounding paedophilia that Chris Morris was satirising in his famous 'Brass Eye' special.
He mentions his argument in the DM article!
Sounds reasonable enough to have a bit of a concern for BOTH of their welfare.
As for:
So even though it was 8PM and long after the college had finished, Mr Self thinks the guard was worried about him being a "threat" to the non-existent students?
And of course a college is for 16-18+ year olds, so there won't be any "young" (in the pedophile sense) people there anyway.
I mean, it couldn't possibly be that the security guard was doing his job by protecting the private property. What's the point of having guards if saying 'Oh, it's okay, I just want to walk through' is enough to get past them?
Then there's
Being quizzed for all of two minutes is what constitutes being "treated like a criminal"? He wasn't even arrested, let alone charged and convicted.
And there's the
Which would seem to imply that the guy really was rather lost if he was following a motorway B road...
And who would have thought that 20 years later such a ridiculous satire would now being uncannily similar to the behavior of the media today