Star Trek: Enterprise
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I can't find another recent thread for Enterprise so I thought i'd start one.
I've been recording the show from CBS Action and watching it through from the start for the first time. I did catch a few episodes when it was shown on C4 but I wasn't impressed so didn't make the effort to pick up the random scheduling.
I'm just about at the end of season 1 now so I thought i'd share my thoughts.
- The pilot was pretty good.
- The next 7-8 episodes are awful.
- The remainder of the season is actually pretty watchable.
- The characters aren't as bad as I remembered. Archer is a bit of a damp squib but Trip and Malcolm are amusing. Hoshi just about stays on the right side of annoying/cute but Travis is beyond dull. I was worried that Phlox would be another Nelix but he's interesting enough. T'Pol obviously has her charms but hasn't developed much yet.
Anyone have any opinions on the show? I've seen bits and pieces of all the seasons (including the final few) so i'm not worried about spoilers.
I've been recording the show from CBS Action and watching it through from the start for the first time. I did catch a few episodes when it was shown on C4 but I wasn't impressed so didn't make the effort to pick up the random scheduling.
I'm just about at the end of season 1 now so I thought i'd share my thoughts.
- The pilot was pretty good.
- The next 7-8 episodes are awful.
- The remainder of the season is actually pretty watchable.
- The characters aren't as bad as I remembered. Archer is a bit of a damp squib but Trip and Malcolm are amusing. Hoshi just about stays on the right side of annoying/cute but Travis is beyond dull. I was worried that Phlox would be another Nelix but he's interesting enough. T'Pol obviously has her charms but hasn't developed much yet.
Anyone have any opinions on the show? I've seen bits and pieces of all the seasons (including the final few) so i'm not worried about spoilers.
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For me the worst thing and most unforgivavle thing is the use of the talentless, charisma vacum that is Scot Spatula... I actually have kitchen implements that can and do out act him.
Sorry, hated this show.
Seasons 1&2 poor, maybe only a handful of episodes I enjoyed.
Seasons 3 & 4 were decent and on occasion dangerously close to being pretty dammed good.
I found the cast pretty unlikeable throughout the show's whole run, but managed to get over it and on the whole I'm glad I did, something I can't say about Voyager.
So, ok overall due to seasons 3&4, but still nowhere near as great as ST, TNG & DS9.
I'm finding the show dull in parts due to the unimaginative scripts and poor characterization, however I still enjoy parts of the dialogue and I think it fits in well with the Star Trek ethos (something the films don't). There are clearly problems (I didn't like the whole crew smiling when they found out they weren't reasonable for destroying the colony in Shock Wave, sure it was a massive relief but it was still 3600 people dead) but nothing more than the first series of TNG.
*"What's that you say Wesley Crusher, The Klingons are part of the Federation?"
I can't remember much of it now.........from the names mentioned earlier I don't remember Phlox or Malcolm or Travis............obviously it wasn't that memorable
At the time I did think they were recycling a lot of storylines from earlier series
And didn't they have loads of episodes of 'alternate universe' with Nazi types ?.............I know DS9 did that but I think maybe Enterprise did as well
it did happen,he was viewing a recreation, it was an histrocial holoprogram
"First officer's personal log, stardate 47457.1. With the unexpected arrival of Admiral Pressman, my old CO, I find myself in an awkward position. Counselor Troi has suggested I might get a few insights by calling up an historic holoprogram."
But I will accept the finale was a huge disappointment.
Yes an historic holo novel.
It never happened.
They made the series too formulaic.
I was looking forward to seeing the setting up of the Federation from the start and watching the Enterprise explore the unknown.
Also they got the FX wrong compared to how the new Star Trek films have got it.
The new films look more like the Tech of old than Enterprise did for a time pre Kirk.
IIRC there was one double episode set in the Mirror Universe, one of my favourite episodes as it goes. DS9 had quite a few scattered over the seasons.
Overall I preferred Enterprise to Voyager though it wasn't a patch on DS9 or TNG.
I would recommend any trek fan that gave Enterprise a miss to go back and watch it. Like I said in the OP, the first 7-8 episodes after the pilot are absolutely dire (I mean really bad) but then it improves.
I enjoyed it on the whole, it was probably my third fav Star trek series. I loved the long story arc & thought the script in general was very good.
It had its problems nobody can deny, for me the worst part of it was T'pol & Trips relationship which was just boring & very out of character for T'pol.
Some episodes where awful such as the one where they time travel back on earth, some episodes where fantastic such as Similitude (Trips clone one) which was heartwrentching.
One thing I only found out afterwards:
One thing I did like about Enterprise was that they used it to clear up some of the mystery's that plagued other star trek series such as the Human looking Klingon's.
If only that was true, but being Riker's holo novel means it never really happened that way.
season three they obviously realised this and made it much darker. notwithstanding this though i enjoyed all. and i genuinely look forward to watching it.
Ha ha - i'll accept that the final episode was a holo novel and live with the penultimate one being the last accepted cannon event.
lol there is actually quite a lot of people that believe that.... well at least until some of the cast clarified.
I know not many enjoyed the last episode but for some reason to me it just feels nice that it payed homage to TNG.
Same here. Whilst I did enjoy Enterprise (seasons 3 & 4), I didn't feel so attached to it to feel the outrage expressed by some of the more dedicated fanbase. (But I do see their point)
The TNG scenes with Riker and Troi were set during the 7th season episode The Pegasus.
to me Demons & Terra Prime are the final 2 episodes
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Demons_(episode)
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Terra_Prime_(episode)
SGU did improve hugely but only because it had been cancelled and they no longer felt the need to be cautious.
enterprise on the other hand... was poor, it was badly acted, with dodgy dialog, formulaic stories (a fault it shares with much Trek TBF) and of course The Spatula, the man with one face.