Haha like i keep saying really i mean i loved it again when we had a really hot day on Wednesday and i blared it out...but personally for me i love an album with a direct journey or concept etc. Whereas True Blue is more like a collection of songs with not an entire mass of diversity necessarily (never a bad thing) but it boasts 4 of her best ever singles and another two corkers too.
But like we always say Madonna has something fore everyone. I regard Erotica as one of the finest albums ever made, some fans think otherwise etc.
For me True Blue as an album doesnt do "it" for me the way some other fans love it...but at the same point i aint speaking bad about it either...it is an iconic album.
Yes, I'm not too big on True Blue either. But then I really didn't become a big fan until LAP. So I've never paid that much attention to her earlier albums. I think it's like a lot of 80's albums in that the singles are great, but the rest of the song are kind of filler. Back in the 80's, artists released albums more frequently and so the emphasis was more on having a couple of great singles and they didn't care so much about the other tracks being fantastic. Whereas now, I think a lot of artists try to make more complete albums because they may not do another one for a couple of years.
Yes, I'm not too big on True Blue either. But then I really didn't become a big fan until LAP. So I've never paid that much attention to her earlier albums. I think it's like a lot of 80's albums in that the singles are great, but the rest of the song are kind of filler. Back in the 80's, artists released albums more frequently and so the emphasis was more on having a couple of great singles and they didn't care so much about the other tracks being fantastic. Whereas now, I think a lot of artists try to make more complete albums because they may not do another one for a couple of years.
That is very interesting you say that really. I think the likes of Rihanna an Katy Perry these days are bringing back that trend of sorts really...either releasing albums or singles more frequently than the norm.
Also having said that i really think her first three albums were focused on showing off the singles. BUT at the same point i feel The First Album (bar I Know It) and Like A Virgin really do have a flow and no real "filler" IMO of course. Whereas true Blue has Jimmy Jimmy, Love Makes The World go Round and the title song (for me i very much dislike)
whereas from Like A Prayer onwards I LOVE that she has focused concepts across her work....just gutted she tended to go back on trend a bit for Bedtime Stories where the focus again was on a select few songs really rather than an entire album piece...though great...it wasnt massive stuff really.
That is very interesting you say that really. I think the likes of Rihanna an Katy Perry these days are bringing back that trend of sorts really...either releasing albums or singles more frequently than the norm.
That's very true but that's because even though I like their music, Rihanna and Katy Perry aren't very good live so they don't tour so much but put the emphasis having hit after hit. I love Katy's records, but her live voice is the absolute worst!
Back in the 80's there wasn't downloading, so artists could make tons of money from releasing records so they didn't do super long tours. Now especially older artists like Madonna want to do extensive tours so they take longer between albums.
Madonna's longevity has a lot to do with the fact that she's an amazing live performer. I think it's a problem that a lot of the younger artists of today aren't good performers but just have hits. No one is going to want to see them live 20 years from now. It's interesting that most of the highest grossing tour artists are older artists.
That's very true but that's because even though I like their music, Rihanna and Katy Perry aren't very good live so they don't tour so much but put the emphasis having hit after hit. I love Katy's records, but her live voice is the absolute worst!
Back in the 80's there wasn't downloading, so artists could make tons of money from releasing records so they didn't do super long tours. Now especially older artists like Madonna want to do extensive tours so they take longer between albums.
Madonna's longevity has a lot to do with the fact that she's an amazing live performer. I think it's a problem that a lot of the younger artists of today aren't good performers but just have hits. No one is going to want to see them live 20 years from now. It's interesting that most of the highest grossing tour artists are older artists.
That is true i mean i love RIhanna loads but i would never see one of her shows ever. Same with the entire current crop of todays Popstarlets really.
And I can watch Madonnas earlier performances an be in awe at how much she progressed as a performer basically from 1983 - 85! Let alone the future beyond that you know? Madonna is so phenomenal at multi-tasking everything really.Cannot wait to see the crazy stuff she is gonna do for this tour :cool:
Yes, I'm not too big on True Blue either. But then I really didn't become a big fan until LAP. So I've never paid that much attention to her earlier albums. I think it's like a lot of 80's albums in that the singles are great, but the rest of the song are kind of filler. Back in the 80's, artists released albums more frequently and so the emphasis was more on having a couple of great singles and they didn't care so much about the other tracks being fantastic. Whereas now, I think a lot of artists try to make more complete albums because they may not do another one for a couple of years.
Mm, kay!
I guess it's down to my age then, maybe I'm just nostalgic for classic Madonna!
But on the other hand, I did walk past a girl today who was wearing this t shirt:):cool:
I pointed out that I LOVED her shirt and that it was my FAVE Madonna album and she said 'me too', we had a little chat and I asked how old she was, can you guess how old she was?
I pointed out that I LOVED her shirt and that it was my FAVE Madonna album and she said 'me too', we had a little chat and I asked how old she was, can you guess how old she was?
Well, I'll tell you, she was SIXTEEN!
See...and i will argue COnfessions was the single best album of the last decade :cool:
It doesnt really matter...its not "down toave" or whatever....people just have different music tastes and Madonna caters to them all :cool: that is all.
Madonna's manager just announced that Madonna is doing another twitter chat on April 4 at 10p.m EST. The last one was fabulous! But the time is a little bad for us UK people. But I guess that's when she's free from doing her rehearsals.
See...and i will argue COnfessions was the single best album of the last decade :cool:
It doesnt really matter...its not "down toave" or whatever....people just have different music tastes and Madonna caters to them all :cool: that is all.
And I would argue that that accolade belongs to Mark Ronson's Version album and that Confessions is a cliched pile of steaming horse manure ( I do like Forbidden Love and Jump though). And that I prefer Hard Candy and especially MDNA.
That's very true but that's because even though I like their music, Rihanna and Katy Perry aren't very good live so they don't tour so much but put the emphasis having hit after hit. I love Katy's records, but her live voice is the absolute worst!
Back in the 80's there wasn't downloading, so artists could make tons of money from releasing records so they didn't do super long tours. Now especially older artists like Madonna want to do extensive tours so they take longer between albums.
Madonna's longevity has a lot to do with the fact that she's an amazing live performer. I think it's a problem that a lot of the younger artists of today aren't good performers but just have hits. No one is going to want to see them live 20 years from now. It's interesting that most of the highest grossing tour artists are older artists.
Yeah but its still better than Rihannas and her overall catalogue is superior to RiRi's bitch don't even write her damn songs i jest Jp but i recently learnt i love KP a damn sight more
And that is true Jp i would say only the california dreams tour, loud and gaga's tours have had any real impact but not in the league of what people in the 80's were doing now it seems churnng out song after song album after album until they hit the floor is the way to go so we don't even have the time to assess or gauge if they are any good and albums era's and songs fall by the way side.
I do think though that Lady Gaga is an exception to what I was saying about younger artists not being good performers. Gaga has a good voice, plays the piano, and puts a lot of effort into her shows. If Gaga keeps it together and doesn't destruct, I can see her still being someone people would like to see perform years from now.
And I would argue that that accolade belongs to Mark Ronson's Version album and that Confessions is a cliched pile of steaming horse manure ( I do like Forbidden Love and Jump though). And that I prefer Hard Candy and especially MDNA.
But....
We can't have it all ways can we?
Thats the point though isnt it. We can love different eras as they cater to different tastes and objectives....it doesnt really matter.
We all have different tastes....but at least my fave doesnt have covers hehe just kiddin.
Madonna's manager just announced that Madonna is doing another twitter chat on April 4 at 10p.m EST. The last one was fabulous! But the time is a little bad for us UK people. But I guess that's when she's free from doing her rehearsals.
Just read it myself too! Very exciting. I loved her last Twitter chat too and it was very successful.
Very great way of chatting to her fans too really without being addicted to it like the current crop of popstars or whatever....but the best thing is everyone is really into it too
Thats the point though isnt it. We can love different eras as they cater to different tastes and objectives....it doesnt really matter.
We all have different tastes....but at least my fave doesnt have covers hehe just kiddin.
What cover? On True Blue?
Or do you mean Mark Ronson? (who was incidentally the first non singing artist to win a brit award for Best british Male Artist). Version is COOL!!:cool::cool:
And my fave Madonna album has 3 uk number one singles on it, yours only has 2!
I seriously would love to interview Piers Morgan, what is his problem with Madonna?
LOL@ him!
She probably refused to do his show hence huge ego dent as he thinks he is truly the last word in presenting rather than the sniveling fool he is
Sorry retro fan with JP on this Tb is one of her weakest albums and my fave has but one number 1 single yet still surpasses it so very much and thats like a prayer
She probably refused to do his show hence huge ego dent as he thinks he is truly the last word in presenting rather than the sniveling fool he is
Sorry retro fan with JP on this Tb is one of her weakest albums and my fave has but one number 1 single yet still surpasses it so very much and thats like a prayer
Same....in fact i am in a renewed ranking mood
1 - Like A Prayer
2 - Erotica
3 - Confessions On A Dance Floor
4 - Like A VIrgin
5 - Ray Of Light
6 - Madonna - The First Album
7 - MDNA (after a full week!)
8 - Music
9 - Hard Candy
10 - True Blue
11 - American Life
12 - Im Breathless
13 - Bedtime Stories
Like a Prayer
Like a Virgin Confessions On A Dancefloor
Music
Ray of light Madonna
Erotica
American Life
MDNA
Hard Candy
True Blue Bedtime Stories
Jury is still out on IB is it an album or a soundtrack
And haha hes such a prick it defies logic
Interesting that great minds think alike as we have the same rankings for em :eek:...still like Bedtime Stories though
and i count IB as an album i mean it has Vogue! While ill neer forgive it for cashing in on Like A Prayer album and the Blonde Ambition tour...it is a solid album in its own right too.
If i had to rank the MDNA songs (in some sort of order)
Love Spent
gang bang
im a sinner
i dont give a...
some girls
im addicted
falling free
turn up the radio
masterpiece
girl gone wild
beautiful killer
b-day song
superstar
best friend
i f-d up
give me all your luvin
I've done the facebook poll regarding the LAP song to be featured on the tour, I've gone with Keep It Together :cool:
Mr Pinder I see you went with Till Death, fair dos to that, I love the whole album so I'm not fussed really as to which songs are used as long as it's a bit different
Really surprised that you guys are ranking MDNA so low down. Disappointing really. I thought you all liked it! Josh, you were saying on another thread that MDNA is so good that people who didn't like it weren't "listening." Yet you have it all the way down at number 7. Sorry mate, but I fail to see why you bother getting excited about it if you continue to rank Erotica above it.
MDNA is in my top 5 Madonna album's at the moment, it will never overtake Like a Prayer (my favourite) but the more I listen and indeed over the summer I'll love it even more
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I love it too! I guess it got hurt by all the negativity that was around American Life.
Yes, I'm not too big on True Blue either. But then I really didn't become a big fan until LAP. So I've never paid that much attention to her earlier albums. I think it's like a lot of 80's albums in that the singles are great, but the rest of the song are kind of filler. Back in the 80's, artists released albums more frequently and so the emphasis was more on having a couple of great singles and they didn't care so much about the other tracks being fantastic. Whereas now, I think a lot of artists try to make more complete albums because they may not do another one for a couple of years.
That is very interesting you say that really. I think the likes of Rihanna an Katy Perry these days are bringing back that trend of sorts really...either releasing albums or singles more frequently than the norm.
Also having said that i really think her first three albums were focused on showing off the singles. BUT at the same point i feel The First Album (bar I Know It) and Like A Virgin really do have a flow and no real "filler" IMO of course. Whereas true Blue has Jimmy Jimmy, Love Makes The World go Round and the title song (for me i very much dislike)
whereas from Like A Prayer onwards I LOVE that she has focused concepts across her work....just gutted she tended to go back on trend a bit for Bedtime Stories where the focus again was on a select few songs really rather than an entire album piece...though great...it wasnt massive stuff really.
And Love Profusion had minimal airplay.promo and not a very "interesting" video really. So actually with all that it did quite well.
That's very true but that's because even though I like their music, Rihanna and Katy Perry aren't very good live so they don't tour so much but put the emphasis having hit after hit. I love Katy's records, but her live voice is the absolute worst!
Back in the 80's there wasn't downloading, so artists could make tons of money from releasing records so they didn't do super long tours. Now especially older artists like Madonna want to do extensive tours so they take longer between albums.
Madonna's longevity has a lot to do with the fact that she's an amazing live performer. I think it's a problem that a lot of the younger artists of today aren't good performers but just have hits. No one is going to want to see them live 20 years from now. It's interesting that most of the highest grossing tour artists are older artists.
That is true i mean i love RIhanna loads but i would never see one of her shows ever. Same with the entire current crop of todays Popstarlets really.
And I can watch Madonnas earlier performances an be in awe at how much she progressed as a performer basically from 1983 - 85! Let alone the future beyond that you know? Madonna is so phenomenal at multi-tasking everything really.Cannot wait to see the crazy stuff she is gonna do for this tour :cool:
Mm, kay!
I guess it's down to my age then, maybe I'm just nostalgic for classic Madonna!
But on the other hand, I did walk past a girl today who was wearing this t shirt:):cool:
http://www.madonnatribe.com/i_31/hm_t-shirt_500.jpg
I pointed out that I LOVED her shirt and that it was my FAVE Madonna album and she said 'me too', we had a little chat and I asked how old she was, can you guess how old she was?
Well, I'll tell you, she was SIXTEEN!
Yay! True Blue ROCKS!!
See...and i will argue COnfessions was the single best album of the last decade :cool:
It doesnt really matter...its not "down toave" or whatever....people just have different music tastes and Madonna caters to them all :cool: that is all.
And I would argue that that accolade belongs to Mark Ronson's Version album and that Confessions is a cliched pile of steaming horse manure ( I do like Forbidden Love and Jump though). And that I prefer Hard Candy and especially MDNA.
But....
We can't have it all ways can we?
Yeah but its still better than Rihannas and her overall catalogue is superior to RiRi's bitch don't even write her damn songs
And that is true Jp i would say only the california dreams tour, loud and gaga's tours have had any real impact but not in the league of what people in the 80's were doing now it seems churnng out song after song album after album until they hit the floor is the way to go so we don't even have the time to assess or gauge if they are any good and albums era's and songs fall by the way side.
Thats the point though isnt it. We can love different eras as they cater to different tastes and objectives....it doesnt really matter.
We all have different tastes....but at least my fave doesnt have covers
Just read it myself too! Very exciting. I loved her last Twitter chat too and it was very successful.
Very great way of chatting to her fans too really without being addicted to it like the current crop of popstars or whatever....but the best thing is everyone is really into it too
What cover? On True Blue?
Or do you mean Mark Ronson? (who was incidentally the first non singing artist to win a brit award for Best british Male Artist). Version is COOL!!:cool::cool:
And my fave Madonna album has 3 uk number one singles on it, yours only has 2!
No, seriously, LOL!:D:D
LOL@ him!
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1984 and The Queen!
She probably refused to do his show hence huge ego dent as he thinks he is truly the last word in presenting rather than the sniveling fool he is
Sorry retro fan with JP on this Tb is one of her weakest albums and my fave has but one number 1 single yet still surpasses it so very much and thats like a prayer
Same....in fact i am in a renewed ranking mood
1 - Like A Prayer
2 - Erotica
3 - Confessions On A Dance Floor
4 - Like A VIrgin
5 - Ray Of Light
6 - Madonna - The First Album
7 - MDNA (after a full week!)
8 - Music
9 - Hard Candy
10 - True Blue
11 - American Life
12 - Im Breathless
13 - Bedtime Stories
There is my week update with MDNA now
And i dedicate this to Piers
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Like a Prayer
Like a Virgin
Confessions On A Dancefloor
Music
Ray of light
Madonna
Erotica
American Life
MDNA
Hard Candy
True Blue
Bedtime Stories
Jury is still out on IB is it an album or a soundtrack
And haha hes such a prick it defies logic
Interesting that great minds think alike as we have the same rankings for em :eek:...still like Bedtime Stories though
and i count IB as an album i mean it has Vogue! While ill neer forgive it for cashing in on Like A Prayer album and the Blonde Ambition tour...it is a solid album in its own right too.
And very much true!
Love Spent
gang bang
im a sinner
i dont give a...
some girls
im addicted
falling free
turn up the radio
masterpiece
girl gone wild
beautiful killer
b-day song
superstar
best friend
i f-d up
give me all your luvin
Mr Pinder I see you went with Till Death, fair dos to that, I love the whole album so I'm not fussed really as to which songs are used as long as it's a bit different