Oscar Pistorius Trial (Merged)
Siobhan_Moore
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Low Level I think is what he has to be diagnosed with - I hope you're right, but the LAW in SA is crazy !!
yes, it is crazy and i wouldn't like to say with any certainty what i think will or won't happen. but whatever happens happens and we'll just have to live with it
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I wonder if Frank is part of the deal.:D
i tweeted it out the day, or day after donmack originally posted it. a reeva support group retweeted it, and put it on their facebook page. i deleted my tweet when i realised, but by then it had, obviously, spread across the internet. thankfully donmack wasn't annoyed when i came clean about it
not that i'm trying to steal donmack's thunder here. it's a really awesome post and deserves all the attention it's getting
Long way off still and no certainty.
He still has at least 15 days of mental assessment I think and then the trail resumes and it all depends on how long the witnesses take. Could be months yet.
Stipp got round there in a couple of minutes yet listened to 'gunshots' and to a woman screaming for 15 minutes and did nothing. As did half the neighbourhood, if they are to be believed. They are all on the record as having heard plenty but done nothing.
Of course security did drive by Oscar's house after somebody reported the first set of bangs. They said that all was quiet and in order when they drove by sometime after 3am. No lights on, no screaming.
Crazy that it spread so fast, such is the tinternet - and it was a very good summation of a Version OP is expecting the Court to believe, and put like Donmack did.............it says it all............it is implausible !
stangely ...........not yet.
You are listening to VT's….. not Trial evidence !!
Greenwood said that OP could be acquitted after the referral… Greenwood is not wrong or lying… he is simply bringing a bit of drama and ratings for the TV show that is paying him… and it is working brilliantly because YOU are buying it, hook, line and sinker !!
For what Greenwood said to occur, OP would have to be diagnosed with a severe mental illness that would render him incapable of distinguishing right from wrong…. it is possible that OP suffers from such an illness but it is HIGHLY IMPROBABLE
If OP had such a severe mental illness… surely Dr V. would have caught a glimpse of it…. but the only thing she could find was GAD.
Instead of relying and misinterpreting VT's, why won't you listen to Dr. V's expert testimony under oath and under cross-examination by Nel, an expert attorney ?
Dr. V clearly said :
1- If Masipa sides with the State's case then the GAD diagnosis is irrelevant…. therefore if Masipa does not believe OP's version, GAD is totally irrelevant
2- GAD does not interfere with one's ability to distinguish right from wrong…. so the possible acquittal you are referring to is already out the window
3- GAD may interfere with one's ability to act in accordance with that distinction and possibly diminish one's responsibility…. it is for the Court to determine if GAD had such an effect in OP's version of events.
That being said, I fully realize that you will stick with your precious VT's no matter what...
Not a problem…. I have another large piece of humble pie ready for you !
VT on OP going in for his Psychiatric assessment
You are the phone data expert too remember, .....not the psychiatric analysis expert ..........and I've not eaten any 'pie' yet, you have........Reeva did not pass the Bar, she was NOT a Lawyer, which you said - she had a Law Degree.
One day he said he sat on the bed pushing the duvet further onto the bed. I imagined him at the end of the bed facing the hifi unit so he could an eye on the passage.
The next day in his evidence he says the fan as shown in photo E55 would have been in his way as he needs a metre in front of him and it sounds like he sat on the floor with his back to the passage.
Something else, where does Pistorius mention looking for socks are they the ones for his stumps or legs?
On OP's version he has just finished fannying about with the fans when he hears the world's noisiest intruder in the bathroom. He freezes for a moment then goes for his gun, telling Reeva to get down but otherwise doesn't communicate with her being totally focussed on the mythical interloper. He then does all those daft things, heading towards the danger, screaming, not wondering wtf Reeva is up to etc. Totally unbelievable right? Right!
But if he's got GAD then his anxiety might make that reaction to events slightly more plausible. That's all I'm saying. Still a crock and still not enough to counteract other facts like the screams. But just the tiniest bit more credible.
agree with every word of this, but specifically the bit i bolded and underlined
So true. I guess she rather does believe Pistorius then, since she is investigating the GAD, which as you say would be pointless if she doesn't believe OP's version.
AARRGGHHHH New thread. I panicked at first, I went for dinner, came back, refreshed the page and couldn't post! Thought I'd been banned
Here is the Donmack thingy http://www.biznews.com/oscar-pistorius-trial/2014/05/oscar-pistorius-version-events-brilliant-summary-athlete-wants-us-believe/
And now I can't reply to everyone on the other thread can I?
Err AJ Yes you can stay over at my new house. Although PM me a photo of yourself first please ;-)
Well done Siobhan for getting Donmack's post out there.
Should Donmack get some kind of financial reward for her post? I'd bloody want something
Lynwood, thanks for this link
Why would anyone want a Deaf Front Door Opener and a Blind Gardner?
No .... Frank will be off somewhere he can be kept safe and looked after.
Yes, BizNews contacted me and asked if they could reprint it.
I shan't let fame go to my head, promise.
Ciao, little people *air kisses*
no, i don't think that's the case at all. she had no choice but to issue the referral. if she didn't, it would become something that could be used in an appeal if oscar is found guilty. masipa is doing everything possible to make sure he's getting a fair trial, right down to making sure he's not too tired to continue. she's keeping her cards very close to her chest and not giving anything away
Reposting ??…
Show us a VT where someone said that OP could be acquitted if diagnosed with GAD ?
Show us a VT where someone said that if OP is diagnosed with GAD, Masipa has to ignore all versions of events (State and Defence) ?
You can't… because it isn't so !
You are mis-inferring from Greenwood's statement…. he NEVER specified which diagnosis could lead to OP's acquittal…. YOU decided that Greenwood was talking about GAD… but he was not.
BiB… Surprisingly, I totally agree with Greenwood's statement…. because I understood what he was saying !
My best guess is Frank is the new Man In The Iron Mask, in some tower somewhere. Poor sod.
hahaha. really?! that's so awesome
don't desert us all though please
Well done you!
Would you switch our Christmas lights on please hun?