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Do you think less of a person if they are unemployed?

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Do you think less of a person if they are unemployed?

Do you think less of a person if they are unemployed? 94 votes

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    U96U96 Posts: 13,937
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    No
    By choice,yes.
    By circumstances,no.

    I was on the dole for the best part of a year.The longer I was unemployed,the lower my mood became.I feel really sorry for those who can't get a job.Or for those who can.But get let go/zero hours contracts,temp contracts.
    It's a throwaway society we live in.That seems to apply to employers v peoples hopes and aspirations as well.:(
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    U96U96 Posts: 13,937
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    No
    Jol44 wrote: »
    Do you think less of a person if they are unemployed?

    Time for you to vote.:)
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    TheMunchTheMunch Posts: 9,024
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    No. But I think less of a person if they have "full time mummy", or a variation of that on their Facebook profile. Which is just a way of saying they're unemployed but they have a child. My brother works most of the week, even weekends, and he has a kid. Is he not a full time parent? Most of his money goes towards living, including his daughter.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 3,234
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    You mean if they don't have either a paid job or their own business? And not including students?

    Not necessarily because sometimes they may have something better to do, like bringing up a family, caring for a sick relative, or being an activist or an artist. Or of course there are people too sick to work or temporarily between jobs due to bad luck only.

    Also if people are lazy sometimes they're conspicuously good people in other ways, which kind of evens it out.
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    gregrichardsgregrichards Posts: 4,913
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    Jol44 wrote: »
    Do you think less of a person if they are unemployed?

    I don't feel less of a person if they are unemployed it is hard out there trying to find work and people need support not shame. I can't work due to the severity of my medical problems and I feel shame about myself because I can't work. It is very hard seeing all your friends promoted and making something of their life's knowing it will never happen for you. I couldn't cope with it so I have no Facebook or Twitter anymore and never will again. I still wish my friends all the best and they do for me though.
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    DangermooseDangermoose Posts: 67,997
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    No. I judge people based on who they are - not their status
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    U96U96 Posts: 13,937
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    I don't feel less of a person if they are unemployed it is hard out there trying to find work and people need support not shame. I can't work due to the severity of my medical problems and I feel shame about myself because I can't work. It is very hard seeing all your friends promoted and making something of their life's knowing it will never happen for you. I couldn't cope with it so I have no Facebook or Twitter anymore and never will again. I still wish my friends all the best and they do for me though.

    Good stuff greg.I wish you well.:)
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    ste likes boobsste likes boobs Posts: 677
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    Yes
    Based solely on it being a yes or no question, I chose yes.

    However, that's only those (as a few have said) who choose not to have a job.

    Not choosing to work out of laziness or because a type of job is 'beneath them', are the people I will judge negatively.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 7,888
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    No, not if it's through circumstance. I've been on job seekers allowance before when I've been between jobs and I know how hard it is to get back into work.

    However if they're unemployed through choice, then yes. I think they're lazy.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 3,234
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    No. I judge people based on who they are - not their status

    Me too. Anyway how can a person know if someone's employed or not, necessarily, unless they've got a camera on them day and night?

    In the past I've been blanked by neighbours as an unemployed person when I was actually working at home. This in the days when homeworking was rare. But how can you tell an unemployed person from a home worker, unless you're viewing them lying on a sofa 24/7?
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    SparklySwedeSparklySwede Posts: 1,112
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    Absolutely not. I was unemployed for about a year and a half after graduating, and I was gradually feeling more and more disillusioned and useless over time. It can be very difficult for people and I know how hard I found being unemployed and on the dole, so I know it's not the first choice for the majority of people. In my case I volunteered and got involved with a social group to keep my mind active, keep socialising and enhance my cv and a lot of people do try to use their time productively.

    The people who are unemployed and do everything in their power to not have to work however, that's another issue entirely . And you can tell the type by their spending all their time in the pub or watching tv, and never even attempting to give something back to society by even volunteering once a week. I don't judge them or think less of them for being unemployed even so; I think less of them for being so lazy with a false sense of entitlement.
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    gregrichardsgregrichards Posts: 4,913
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    U96 wrote: »
    Good stuff greg.I wish you well.:)

    Thanks U96 I appreciate it.

    I know first hand from disabled people I have met that can do some types of work that they feel shame due to their situation. The government is not doing nearly enough to support the disabled in the work place. Don't get me started on Esther McVey I want to smash my tv everytime she rambles on speaking nonsense.
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    Welsh-ladWelsh-lad Posts: 51,925
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    It depends. If they are unemployed by misfortune/redundancy and are trying hard to get back into employment then they have my total respect.

    If they're freeloading / lazy and deceiving the authorities, no.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 3,234
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    I don't feel less of a person if they are unemployed it is hard out there trying to find work and people need support not shame. I can't work due to the severity of my medical problems and I feel shame about myself because I can't work. It is very hard seeing all your friends promoted and making something of their life's knowing it will never happen for you. I couldn't cope with it so I have no Facebook or Twitter anymore and never will again. I still wish my friends all the best and they do for me though.

    Greg I empathise with you and wish you well. I don't think you should feel shame because it's not your fault.
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    dee123dee123 Posts: 46,274
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    No
    All the sensibleness here is staggering.
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    miss_astridmiss_astrid Posts: 1,808
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    TheMunch wrote: »
    No. But I think less of a person if they have "full time mummy", or a variation of that on their Facebook profile. Which is just a way of saying they're unemployed but they have a child. My brother works most of the week, even weekends, and he has a kid. Is he not a full time parent? Most of his money goes towards living, including his daughter.

    Completely agree with everything you've said - and this is coming from someone who's sister has that as her profession on Facebook!
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    DangermooseDangermoose Posts: 67,997
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    Dolls wrote: »
    Me too. Anyway how can a person know if someone's employed or not, necessarily, unless they've got a camera on them day and night?

    In the past I've been blanked by neighbours as an unemployed person when I was actually working at home. This in the days when homeworking was rare. But how can you tell an unemployed person from a home worker, unless you're viewing them lying on a sofa 24/7?

    :o Wow! Some people are just so ignorant.

    My ex never worked .... mind you, he was a lazy git, and probably still is. There was always some excuse like he didn't feel well, didn't have money for bus fare, it was raining, it was Monday and he had to sort his head out. The one job he did get he quit through "trauma" when my dad died (never mind I continued to hold down two jobs to support his arse!) Didn't judge him though and I would never have. It was his being an idiot that finally made me tire - he'd get his giro on a Saturday and waste the whole lot in the pub by the end of the day - leaving me to continue to feed him, his cats, his cigarette habit for another fortnight. I still wouldn't judge people like him though. It's their choice - and doesn't affect me
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    gregrichardsgregrichards Posts: 4,913
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    Dolls wrote: »
    Greg I empathise with you and wish you well. I don't think you should feel shame because it's not your fault.

    Thanks Dolls everyone here has been so kind to me over the years. Nobody has ever made me feel ashamed thankfully I just will always wonder what my life could have been for the rest of my life.

    I'm just out of hospital again and was put in a ward with men dying of cancer it really put my problems into perspective. I don't have cancer they were short of beds.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 3,234
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    Completely agree with everything you've said - and this is coming from someone who's sister has that as her profession on Facebook!

    Not my view. I think generally speaking to be a full time mother and homemaker is much more admirable and honourable than working at a job. I don't feel mothers should have to have a paid job, although sometimes it's financially unavoidable for a family, and sometimes it's very good for the mother and the family and better than her not expressing her talents and skills.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 3,234
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    :o Wow! Some people are just so ignorant.

    My ex never worked .... mind you, he was a lazy git, and probably still is. There was always some excuse like he didn't feel well, didn't have money for bus fare, it was raining, it was Monday and he had to sort his head out. The one job he did get he quit through "trauma" when my dad died (never mind I continued to hold down two jobs to support his arse!) Didn't judge him though and I would never have. It was his being an idiot that finally made me tire - he'd get his giro on a Saturday and waste the whole lot in the pub by the end of the day - leaving me to continue to feed him, his cats, his cigarette habit for another fortnight. I still wouldn't judge people like him though. It's their choice - and doesn't affect me

    I think a lot of people who don't want to work actually have psychological issues such as depression, social phobia, or an intense fear of bullying by others due to past experience, (such as schooldays), which they're scared of talking about due to the unfair stigma against mental illness and not coping.

    Using alchohol and drugs as a crutch can be part of the picture as a way of self medicating.

    I'm not saying this applies to your ex. I sympathise. But I can remember leaving school and being terrified of going to work at a job due to school bullying. And I think a lot of people could benefit from someone trying to have a frank and sympathetic and above all, non judgemental talk about why they don't work, rather than just being called lazy, (which you didn't do to your ex - I'm not referring to you). Then they might actually tackle their issues, with the personal support of their confidante.
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    Jol44Jol44 Posts: 21,048
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    Dolls wrote: »
    Not my view. I think generally speaking to be a full time mother and homemaker is much more admirable and honourable than working at a job.

    Or father?
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    ste likes boobsste likes boobs Posts: 677
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    Dolls wrote: »
    I think generally speaking to be a full time mother and homemaker is much more admirable and honourable than working at a job.

    Just don't say that to the feminists.
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    DangermooseDangermoose Posts: 67,997
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    Dolls wrote: »
    I think a lot of people who don't want to work actually have psychological issues such as depression, social phobia, or an intense fear of bullying by others due to past experience, (such as schooldays), which they're scared of talking about due to the unfair stigma against mental illness and not coping.

    Using alchohol and drugs as a crutch can be part of the picture as a way of self medicating.

    I'm not saying this applies to your ex. I sympathise. But I can remember leaving school and being terrified of going to work at a job due to school bullying. And I think a lot of people could benefit from someone trying to have a frank and sympathetic and above all, non judgemental talk about why they don't work, rather than just being called lazy, (which you didn't do to your ex - I'm not referring to you). Then they might actually tackle their issues, with the personal support of their confidante.

    There is that too. People are just so quick to judge. Nobody knows what a person is really going through, feeling, thinking, what psychological issues they may have. In a way I can relate to you also as my own lack of confidence could have easily prevented me from ever working - it was a real effort to force myself out there. Not everybody is so strong ......
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 3,234
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    Jol44 wrote: »
    Or father?

    Not really to be totally honest, but I know I've no right to judge other people's lives and families. But as a reaction which involves understanding and emotion, no, full time fathers don't sit easy with me.
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    Hank1234Hank1234 Posts: 3,756
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    Depends what age you were , I would have more sympathy for a unemployed 25 year still at home with mum and dad.. Then someone in their forties who's in the same position.. If your in 40s and haven't made it in life ,when are you?
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