the story is basically that people got annoyed when they discovered a JS book in the front window of a bookshop and after alot of complaints, the shopkeeper took it down but their debating whether its enforced censorship or whether it was particularly tasteless having such a book appear in the window in the first place.
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that seems a little strange - how do you vilify someone by displaying their book in a window? hmm, I suppose you'd have to see a photo of the full display to judge. It is a bit tacky perhaps but its not as if JS himself would profit from it (being dead and all, unless money went to his estate which will be funding the compensation claims from victims so in a sense that'd be a good thing? but its likely a second hand book shop so the shop keeper would be making the profit, not JS or his family). I guess it would feel a bit creepy to read that 'stranger danger' book he was involved with, if that was the book(?). I think he only wrote the forward for that though? it was selling for over £20 on Ebay a few weeks ago, I remember someone posting a link to the auction, that was after they stopped selling it on Amazon - I wonder if someone complained to them about that too?.
I don't know where you are getting your information from, but the books of his including stranger danger are still for sale on ebay and Amazon.
South Georgia comes to mind.
They needn't even serve a jail sentence in UK, just ship them straight off, rather like deportation in the early days of Australia. These people need removal from temptation and the opportunity to offend again.
How about offering an option of chemical castration? the ones who are this way due to a mental reason would probably go for it, I am sure many would prefer not to feeel that way and harm kids .
I would hope the majority of paedophiles do not do what they do by pure choice, I would like to think ( like maybe not a good word ) that it is some kind of mental imbalance , so maybe we could instead of pushing this horrid behaviour under the carpet until crimes happen do something pro-active. Encourage those who feel they have paedophile tendancies to see their GP or some special clinic , keep it confidential and offer them treatment , now there is no cure as its not confirmed yet that it is a mental conditon but there must be some who are afraid they cannot control their urges who would opt for chemcial treatment to stop their sexual urges , so offer them chemical castration on the NHS.
Its a horrid subject but just think how many small kids lives could be saved from trauma if we were to stop burying our heads in the sand as its a distasteful subject, why wait until harm and a crime have been committed and a life ruined , maybe someone could be bold enough to do something like this rather than only offering it to already jailed offenders.
In Canada they have groups that befriend released paedophiles, this is to make sure they are not alone and have a reduced chance to reoffend.
This take me back to a point I mentioned previously and was attacked for because the poster hadn't read/understood what I was saying.
In the US very recently, a gay man who wanted to be straight claimed to have 'cured' himself by stimulating the pleasure zones in his brain with electrical impulses whilst being stimulated by a female prostitute.
After a number of treatments, he claims he is now turned on by women instead of men. I wondered if the same treatment might work for paedophiles who aren't doing it for power but because it's heir sexual turn-on (if they could be made to find adults attractive instead)?
The treatment as it stands has been banned in California on ethical grounds (because homosexuality isn't something people should be 'cured' of), but some homosexuals are fighting the ban saying it's their right to choose their sexuality.
It’s an interesting theory. Until the conversation I had with that police officer I hadn’t seen it like that. I’m not for one moment saying it’s an excuse (there isn’t one) nor should there be pity for them being “cursed” with that “persuasion” but it does go a long way to explain a) how they think/operate and b) that they will always be a threat outside of prison. Again, how can someone who sees sex with children as normal – their sexuality – be trusted upon release from prison?
The connection with the “curing” of gay and lesbian people is a different matter but I get what you’re saying, there is a connection in the concept. The thing is, if a gay man is struggling with his sexuality I’d say that’s a natural process many gay men go through. Society has made them feel guilt/disgust over the years. Ultimately, most accept who they are and gain confidence in their sexuality. They grow comfortable with their feelings. The example you give – I have seen that story before – is a rare exception (and I’m sceptical of it). I’m fairly sure 99.99% of gay/lesbian people are born with their sexuality, it’s not something they choose. And there’s the sticking point – the afore mentioned police officer said nobody has conclusively got to the bottom of whether it’s a biological thing or whether they condition themselves to be attracted to children. I don’t mean to be crude but it’s a question of “is it something they’re born with or do they acquire a taste”? Either way, you’re dealing with someone who finds absolutely nothing wrong with what they do. Because of that, they will re-offend. If they have no qualms, they have no limits.
Interestingly, I’ve never heard of a paedophile struggling with their feelings, torn apart with guilt over their sexuality, hoping society will accept them, have you? Maybe that’s a further clue as to what makes them tick – the lack of guilt and remorse and no real concept of feelings or emotion, yet more dangerous elements to their character.
I'm sure even some bank robbers and muggers feel guilt and remorse sometimes! I've never heard of a paedophile expressing such feelings.
Thanks for your post. If paedophiles really have no way of changing, then you're right. They should be locked up for life to protect other children they may abuse. Just recently, a judge decided that a man who claimed a 7-year-old initiated sexual contact with him (!) should not have to go to prison.
I was also under the impression (maybe wrongly) that sex offenders can't be forced to accept treatment. So if they're spared jail and don't accept treatment, what then? They carry on abusing till they're caught again and then put in jail, only to be released a few years later to do it again?
Have there been no case studies of paedophile rehabilitation? If there is no hope for them at all, then why are they released? The article doesn't say how many of the abusers who received treatment in jail went on to re-offend.
The case you mention is truly vile, on several levels. The offence, the so-called defence and the reaction of the judge. Dare I say it, makes me wonder exactly what the motives of the judge are? Kind of like the “no harm done” attitude JS displayed in that interview when he was talking about GG – sympathy is not something to be afforded to paedophiles. Very worrying.
If it’s a case of not being able to forcibly “treat” paedophiles (if such a process existed) then we really have no hope. I would even bet the hardline human rights nuts would jump on the case if they thought a big legal-aid cheque was up for grabs.
Again, I wasn’t pointing out the chat I had with a police officer (18 years in the force, 6 of those working on sexual offences and child protection) as a means of justifying their actions. To me, it simply highlights just how dangerous paedophiles are. I never cease to be amazed and angered when I read a story like “... the prosecution said Mr X has previously been convicted for child sex offences…”. Until there is some “cure” I for one would rather see paedophiles locked away indefinitely.
That's very unfortunate : it's a symptom of the hysteria and paranoia surrounding paedophiles that male teachers won't go near primary schools (nobody wants things to be too lax but being paranoid and seeing perverts around every corner is equally bad)
I think this worry affects alot of men.
My daughter is having 5 friends for a sleepover for her 8th birthday (must be mad). My husband has now said he will not be going anywhere near her bedroom that night.
Also, when we were looking into fostering, we were advised that 'it was not unusual' for allegations of sexual abuse to be made by troubled children, and that should this happen against my husband they would obviously not only remove the foster child, but he would need to be removed from his own children.
How about offering an option of chemical castration? the ones who are this way due to a mental reason would probably go for it, I am sure many would prefer not to feeel that way and harm kids .
I would hope the majority of paedophiles do not do what they do by pure choice, I would like to think ( like maybe not a good word ) that it is some kind of mental imbalance , so maybe we could instead of pushing this horrid behaviour under the carpet until crimes happen do something pro-active. Encourage those who feel they have paedophile tendancies to see their GP or some special clinic , keep it confidential and offer them treatment , now there is no cure as its not confirmed yet that it is a mental conditon but there must be some who are afraid they cannot control their urges who would opt for chemcial treatment to stop their sexual urges , so offer them chemical castration on the NHS.
Its a horrid subject but just think how many small kids lives could be saved from trauma if we were to stop burying our heads in the sand as its a distasteful subject, why wait until harm and a crime have been committed and a life ruined , maybe someone could be bold enough to do something like this rather than only offering it to already jailed offenders.
Castration, chemical or otherwise is certainly a deterrent and could be effective in cases where the abuse is purely sexually motivated... however, abuse is frequently an expression of power....
What would be the solution for the 'power' abusers?
How about offering an option of chemical castration? the ones who are this way due to a mental reason would probably go for it, I am sure many would prefer not to feeel that way and harm kids .
I would hope the majority of paedophiles do not do what they do by pure choice, I would like to think ( like maybe not a good word ) that it is some kind of mental imbalance , so maybe we could instead of pushing this horrid behaviour under the carpet until crimes happen do something pro-active. Encourage those who feel they have paedophile tendancies to see their GP or some special clinic , keep it confidential and offer them treatment , now there is no cure as its not confirmed yet that it is a mental conditon but there must be some who are afraid they cannot control their urges who would opt for chemcial treatment to stop their sexual urges , so offer them chemical castration on the NHS.
Its a horrid subject but just think how many small kids lives could be saved from trauma if we were to stop burying our heads in the sand as its a distasteful subject, why wait until harm and a crime have been committed and a life ruined , maybe someone could be bold enough to do something like this rather than only offering it to already jailed offenders.
In Canada they have groups that befriend released paedophiles, this is to make sure they are not alone and have a reduced chance to reoffend.
I posted an article on these Circles of Support and Accountability a couple of pages back. We have them here now too.
52.07 We should say at once that no evidence has been presented to the Tribunal or to the North Wales Police to establish that there was a wide-ranging conspiracy involving prominent persons and others with the objective of sexual activity with children in care. Equally, we are unaware of any evidence to establish that there was any coherent organisation of men with that objective. What we discuss hereafter in this chapter is whether there were groups of men, known to each other and associating informally, who did prey on children in care together and individually for sexual purposes during the period under review.
Castration, chemical or otherwise is certainly a deterrent and could be effective in cases where the abuse is purely sexually motivated... however, abuse is frequently an expression of power....
What would be the solution for the 'power' abusers?
I am speaking off the top of my head here , so I would think power abusers probably arent the ones who do this from a mental imbalance maybe from learned behaviour so would not come froward for help. I would not expect them all to come forward , but help could be offerd for those who do and that would save some kids from harm , those who dont and offend should have very very hefty sentences and those in touch with kids should be checked on, kept an eye on but without wrapping kids in cotton wool and treating everyone as a criminal just in case.
The bombshell claim means there are now allegations that four senior Conservatives, including at least two who were close to the former Prime Minister, were child abusers.
The latest allegations revealed by Mr Watson at the weekend are not related to the North Wales horrors.
Nor are they connected to his claim that cops overlooked evidence linking a No.10 insider to child porn smuggler Peter Righton’s paedophile ring.
I posted an article on these Circles of Support and Accountability a couple of pages back. We have them here now too.
Its a good thing, in order to have any chance of preventing reoffending and stopping some of it in the first place then we as a society have to be prepared to talk about paedophiles and encourage them to seek help instead of quiet whispers and outrage after the event . Prevention is better than cure in most things.
Yes, you are absolutely correct with regard rumours issue, what is the defined cut off between rumour and evidence...?...
The 'blind eye' law to me is such an obvious thing to bring to England etc
What practical solutions would everyone else suggest, and why would it work?
I believe the law in Ireland states that if you know for a fact that abuse has or is taking place, you must report it to the police ie. if a child was to reveal it to you or you were to witness it, or hear a reliable first hand account of it.
Castration, chemical or otherwise is certainly a deterrent and could be effective in cases where the abuse is purely sexually motivated... however, abuse is frequently an expression of power....
What would be the solution for the 'power' abusers?
I agree. From all accounts, JS got off on the feeling that he could do what he wanted, on exercising the power he had as a 'big man' in entertainment, friends with the rich and famous, over those who had little or no power. Chemical castration wouldn't have kept his hands out of girls knickers or his tongue out of the throats of disabled people..
My daughter is having 5 friends for a sleepover for her 8th birthday (must be mad). My husband has now said he will not be going anywhere near her bedroom that night.
Also, when we were looking into fostering, we were advised that 'it was not unusual' for allegations of sexual abuse to be made by troubled children, and that should this happen against my husband they would obviously not only remove the foster child, but he would need to be removed from his own children.
It's a very unfortunate side effect of paedophilia that many men are demonised as a result it. Most men are not child abusers and it's a bit sad that they're frequently getting lumped in with the perverts.....it can't be denied that there is a touch of hysteria and paranoia surrounding the whole subject.
I was chatting to some trainee teachers recently and most of the male ones said they would prefer to going into adult education for the simple reason there was no chance of being called a paedo and what does that do to the educational system when they only get to see a female teacher until they reach 18?
A cousin of mine qualified a few months ago and he recently confided in me that he’s thinking of going the adult ed route mainly for the same reasons. He even said he fell out with a couple of old school friends because they made jokes about him “only wanting to be a teacher to be around the young girls…” – it's sad as it’s something he, and many others, work towards for years.
I’ve another male friend who works at a local play centre/crèche – he constantly gets sick comments from people along the lines of “there’s only one reason a bloke wants to work with kids...”.
Of course it’s right to be vigilant but if, as a society, we start breeding fear into young males who want a career in teaching/working with children then we’ve got even bigger problems than we thought.
My daughter is having 5 friends for a sleepover for her 8th birthday (must be mad). My husband has now said he will not be going anywhere near her bedroom that night.
Also, when we were looking into fostering, we were advised that 'it was not unusual' for allegations of sexual abuse to be made by troubled children, and that should this happen against my husband they would obviously not only remove the foster child, but he would need to be removed from his own children.
perhaps the police should setup a system where you can book yourself in and for the time you are there you can have a fully videoed alibi so should someone say you did something nasty you can prove you was under police custody and therefore unable to do the criminal act
perhaps the police should setup a system where you can book yourself in and for the time you are there you can have a fully videoed alibi so should someone say you did something nasty you can prove you was under police custody and therefore unable to do the criminal act
I am speaking off the top of my head here , so I would think power abusers probably arent the ones who do this from a mental imbalance maybe from learned behaviour so would not come froward for help. I would not expect them all to come forward , but help could be offerd for those who do and that would save some kids from harm , those who dont and offend should have very very hefty sentences and those in touch with kids should be checked on, kept an eye on but without wrapping kids in cotton wool and treating everyone as a criminal just in case.
You are right in that some paedophiles may come forward and volunteer for treatment in an effort to change, but not most..
The following is an analogy in context with the above.
The country is awash with with morbidly obese individuals who love cake, proportionally, very few join diet clubs or seek GP advice, most firmly believe they eat well and do all the right things, only to then munch on a cake !
My point being that a system where we expect paedos to recognise what they are (as they don't see it as being wrong) seems somewhat overly optimistic.
Given the stat banded about of the proportion of paedophile is 4% of men and 1% of women, how is the supervision of them effectively resourced?
With birth control given to 13 year olds (handy to prevent pervs from getting them pregnant), the teen of year contests, the accepted sexualisation of children and the highlighting of organised paedaphillia rings which seem numerous and 'effective', if i had children i would do everything feasible to ensure their safety...
If this were perceived as wrapping in cotton wool then so be it.
Anyone touching any child of mine would be closely supervised in that they would lose their ability to do anything but eat through a straw..
I have zero tolerance of these people, i do not wish to understand them any more than knowing where they are and i do want them punished without remorse.
I believe the law in Ireland states that if you know for a fact that abuse has or is taking place, you must report it to the police ie. if a child was to reveal it to you or you were to witness it, or hear a reliable first hand account of it.
That's great feedback, thanks...
Surely its common sense... explains why so many protest to this coming to England
But it only takes one hint and the pitchforks and torches will come out and especially with a multi girl sleep over it only takes a falling out and someone decides to cause some aggro and the poor dad will spend the rest of their lives under question
It’s an interesting theory. Until the conversation I had with that police officer I hadn’t seen it like that. I’m not for one moment saying it’s an excuse (there isn’t one) nor should there be pity for them being “cursed” with that “persuasion” but it does go a long way to explain a) how they think/operate and b) that they will always be a threat outside of prison. Again, how can someone who sees sex with children as normal – their sexuality – be trusted upon release from prison?
The connection with the “curing” of gay and lesbian people is a different matter but I get what you’re saying, there is a connection in the concept. The thing is, if a gay man is struggling with his sexuality I’d say that’s a natural process many gay men go through. Society has made them feel guilt/disgust over the years. Ultimately, most accept who they are and gain confidence in their sexuality. They grow comfortable with their feelings. The example you give – I have seen that story before – is a rare exception (and I’m sceptical of it). I’m fairly sure 99.99% of gay/lesbian people are born with their sexuality, it’s not something they choose. And there’s the sticking point – the afore mentioned police officer said nobody has conclusively got to the bottom of whether it’s a biological thing or whether they condition themselves to be attracted to children. I don’t mean to be crude but it’s a question of “is it something they’re born with or do they acquire a taste”? Either way, you’re dealing with someone who finds absolutely nothing wrong with what they do. Because of that, they will re-offend. If they have no qualms, they have no limits.
Interestingly, I’ve never heard of a paedophile struggling with their feelings, torn apart with guilt over their sexuality, hoping society will accept them, have you? Maybe that’s a further clue as to what makes them tick – the lack of guilt and remorse and no real concept of feelings or emotion, yet more dangerous elements to their character.
I'm sure even some bank robbers and muggers feel guilt and remorse sometimes! I've never heard of a paedophile expressing such feelings.
BiB: Personally, I believe we are all born bisexual but that society steers(ed) us towards being heterosexual due to religious beliefs.
All animals studied so far display homosexual behaviour, from flies to elephants. I did quite a bit of research into that area once and it's very interesting. Dolphins are particularly interesting with regards to sex: males gang-rape females and hold them as sex-slaves for months at a time!
How about offering an option of chemical castration? the ones who are this way due to a mental reason would probably go for it, I am sure many would prefer not to feeel that way and harm kids .
I would hope the majority of paedophiles do not do what they do by pure choice, I would like to think ( like maybe not a good word ) that it is some kind of mental imbalance , so maybe we could instead of pushing this horrid behaviour under the carpet until crimes happen do something pro-active. Encourage those who feel they have paedophile tendancies to see their GP or some special clinic , keep it confidential and offer them treatment , now there is no cure as its not confirmed yet that it is a mental conditon but there must be some who are afraid they cannot control their urges who would opt for chemcial treatment to stop their sexual urges , so offer them chemical castration on the NHS.
I'm sorry to break this to you, but pedos commit their acts fully aware of what they are doing but in their heads they are justified and claiming what is rightly theirs. The child welcomes and often instigates their advances and the attraction to children is as natural as women fancying men, men fancying women or men fancying men; as natural as every individual's turn-ons be it s&m bondage public shagging lacy underwear ...whatever. For this reason why would they want to volunteer to such a programme if they truly believe that what they do and what turns them on is their natural right
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I don't know where you are getting your information from, but the books of his including stranger danger are still for sale on ebay and Amazon.
How about offering an option of chemical castration? the ones who are this way due to a mental reason would probably go for it, I am sure many would prefer not to feeel that way and harm kids .
I would hope the majority of paedophiles do not do what they do by pure choice, I would like to think ( like maybe not a good word ) that it is some kind of mental imbalance , so maybe we could instead of pushing this horrid behaviour under the carpet until crimes happen do something pro-active. Encourage those who feel they have paedophile tendancies to see their GP or some special clinic , keep it confidential and offer them treatment , now there is no cure as its not confirmed yet that it is a mental conditon but there must be some who are afraid they cannot control their urges who would opt for chemcial treatment to stop their sexual urges , so offer them chemical castration on the NHS.
Its a horrid subject but just think how many small kids lives could be saved from trauma if we were to stop burying our heads in the sand as its a distasteful subject, why wait until harm and a crime have been committed and a life ruined , maybe someone could be bold enough to do something like this rather than only offering it to already jailed offenders.
In Canada they have groups that befriend released paedophiles, this is to make sure they are not alone and have a reduced chance to reoffend.
It’s an interesting theory. Until the conversation I had with that police officer I hadn’t seen it like that. I’m not for one moment saying it’s an excuse (there isn’t one) nor should there be pity for them being “cursed” with that “persuasion” but it does go a long way to explain a) how they think/operate and b) that they will always be a threat outside of prison. Again, how can someone who sees sex with children as normal – their sexuality – be trusted upon release from prison?
The connection with the “curing” of gay and lesbian people is a different matter but I get what you’re saying, there is a connection in the concept. The thing is, if a gay man is struggling with his sexuality I’d say that’s a natural process many gay men go through. Society has made them feel guilt/disgust over the years. Ultimately, most accept who they are and gain confidence in their sexuality. They grow comfortable with their feelings. The example you give – I have seen that story before – is a rare exception (and I’m sceptical of it). I’m fairly sure 99.99% of gay/lesbian people are born with their sexuality, it’s not something they choose. And there’s the sticking point – the afore mentioned police officer said nobody has conclusively got to the bottom of whether it’s a biological thing or whether they condition themselves to be attracted to children. I don’t mean to be crude but it’s a question of “is it something they’re born with or do they acquire a taste”? Either way, you’re dealing with someone who finds absolutely nothing wrong with what they do. Because of that, they will re-offend. If they have no qualms, they have no limits.
Interestingly, I’ve never heard of a paedophile struggling with their feelings, torn apart with guilt over their sexuality, hoping society will accept them, have you? Maybe that’s a further clue as to what makes them tick – the lack of guilt and remorse and no real concept of feelings or emotion, yet more dangerous elements to their character.
I'm sure even some bank robbers and muggers feel guilt and remorse sometimes! I've never heard of a paedophile expressing such feelings.
The case you mention is truly vile, on several levels. The offence, the so-called defence and the reaction of the judge. Dare I say it, makes me wonder exactly what the motives of the judge are? Kind of like the “no harm done” attitude JS displayed in that interview when he was talking about GG – sympathy is not something to be afforded to paedophiles. Very worrying.
If it’s a case of not being able to forcibly “treat” paedophiles (if such a process existed) then we really have no hope. I would even bet the hardline human rights nuts would jump on the case if they thought a big legal-aid cheque was up for grabs.
Again, I wasn’t pointing out the chat I had with a police officer (18 years in the force, 6 of those working on sexual offences and child protection) as a means of justifying their actions. To me, it simply highlights just how dangerous paedophiles are. I never cease to be amazed and angered when I read a story like “... the prosecution said Mr X has previously been convicted for child sex offences…”. Until there is some “cure” I for one would rather see paedophiles locked away indefinitely.
Yes, you are absolutely correct with regard rumours issue, what is the defined cut off between rumour and evidence...?...
The 'blind eye' law to me is such an obvious thing to bring to England etc
What practical solutions would everyone else suggest, and why would it work?
I think this worry affects alot of men.
My daughter is having 5 friends for a sleepover for her 8th birthday (must be mad). My husband has now said he will not be going anywhere near her bedroom that night.
Also, when we were looking into fostering, we were advised that 'it was not unusual' for allegations of sexual abuse to be made by troubled children, and that should this happen against my husband they would obviously not only remove the foster child, but he would need to be removed from his own children.
Castration, chemical or otherwise is certainly a deterrent and could be effective in cases where the abuse is purely sexually motivated... however, abuse is frequently an expression of power....
What would be the solution for the 'power' abusers?
I posted an article on these Circles of Support and Accountability a couple of pages back. We have them here now too.
http://tna.europarchive.org/20040216040105/http://www.doh.gov.uk/lostincare/20154.htm
52.07 We should say at once that no evidence has been presented to the Tribunal or to the North Wales Police to establish that there was a wide-ranging conspiracy involving prominent persons and others with the objective of sexual activity with children in care. Equally, we are unaware of any evidence to establish that there was any coherent organisation of men with that objective. What we discuss hereafter in this chapter is whether there were groups of men, known to each other and associating informally, who did prey on children in care together and individually for sexual purposes during the period under review.
I am speaking off the top of my head here , so I would think power abusers probably arent the ones who do this from a mental imbalance maybe from learned behaviour so would not come froward for help. I would not expect them all to come forward , but help could be offerd for those who do and that would save some kids from harm , those who dont and offend should have very very hefty sentences and those in touch with kids should be checked on, kept an eye on but without wrapping kids in cotton wool and treating everyone as a criminal just in case.
Yet still no mention of operation ore
Its a good thing, in order to have any chance of preventing reoffending and stopping some of it in the first place then we as a society have to be prepared to talk about paedophiles and encourage them to seek help instead of quiet whispers and outrage after the event . Prevention is better than cure in most things.
I believe the law in Ireland states that if you know for a fact that abuse has or is taking place, you must report it to the police ie. if a child was to reveal it to you or you were to witness it, or hear a reliable first hand account of it.
It's a very unfortunate side effect of paedophilia that many men are demonised as a result it. Most men are not child abusers and it's a bit sad that they're frequently getting lumped in with the perverts.....it can't be denied that there is a touch of hysteria and paranoia surrounding the whole subject.
A cousin of mine qualified a few months ago and he recently confided in me that he’s thinking of going the adult ed route mainly for the same reasons. He even said he fell out with a couple of old school friends because they made jokes about him “only wanting to be a teacher to be around the young girls…” – it's sad as it’s something he, and many others, work towards for years.
I’ve another male friend who works at a local play centre/crèche – he constantly gets sick comments from people along the lines of “there’s only one reason a bloke wants to work with kids...”.
Of course it’s right to be vigilant but if, as a society, we start breeding fear into young males who want a career in teaching/working with children then we’ve got even bigger problems than we thought.
perhaps the police should setup a system where you can book yourself in and for the time you are there you can have a fully videoed alibi so should someone say you did something nasty you can prove you was under police custody and therefore unable to do the criminal act
I despair ...
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/279380/TORY-PAEDO-COVER-UP/
You are right in that some paedophiles may come forward and volunteer for treatment in an effort to change, but not most..
The following is an analogy in context with the above.
The country is awash with with morbidly obese individuals who love cake, proportionally, very few join diet clubs or seek GP advice, most firmly believe they eat well and do all the right things, only to then munch on a cake !
My point being that a system where we expect paedos to recognise what they are (as they don't see it as being wrong) seems somewhat overly optimistic.
Given the stat banded about of the proportion of paedophile is 4% of men and 1% of women, how is the supervision of them effectively resourced?
With birth control given to 13 year olds (handy to prevent pervs from getting them pregnant), the teen of year contests, the accepted sexualisation of children and the highlighting of organised paedaphillia rings which seem numerous and 'effective', if i had children i would do everything feasible to ensure their safety...
If this were perceived as wrapping in cotton wool then so be it.
Anyone touching any child of mine would be closely supervised in that they would lose their ability to do anything but eat through a straw..
I have zero tolerance of these people, i do not wish to understand them any more than knowing where they are and i do want them punished without remorse.
That's great feedback, thanks...
Surely its common sense... explains why so many protest to this coming to England
But it only takes one hint and the pitchforks and torches will come out and especially with a multi girl sleep over it only takes a falling out and someone decides to cause some aggro and the poor dad will spend the rest of their lives under question
BiB: Personally, I believe we are all born bisexual but that society steers(ed) us towards being heterosexual due to religious beliefs.
All animals studied so far display homosexual behaviour, from flies to elephants. I did quite a bit of research into that area once and it's very interesting. Dolphins are particularly interesting with regards to sex: males gang-rape females and hold them as sex-slaves for months at a time!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals