The two aren't mutually exclusive, that the girls were influenced by their parents and they were attracted by propaganda photos on the Internet. That would be even more likely if their parents had sympathy with jihadists, not less likely.
But you didn't mention the possibility that perhaps their families may have been involved in extremism. They were lured by Nutella pancakes and hunky men according to you.
You also stated that non-Muslims were joining ISIS, but obviously could not back it up with any facts when questioned.
Remember when the BBC actually put a positive spin on the fact that 25% of Muslims' supported the mass murder of the cartoonists?
Totally disgusting.
As for the ideology of Islam it is a repulsive cancer that is spreading it's evil all over the world.
But our spineless politicians have allowed (or even promoted) extremism to flourish in this country whilst labelling anyone who does not want to live under a future caliphate a racist or an Islamophobe.
Remember when the BBC actually put a positive spin on the fact that 25% of Muslims' supported the mass murder of the cartoonists?
Totally disgusting.
As for the ideology of Islam it is a repulsive cancer that is spreading it's evil all over the world.
But our spineless politicians have allowed (or even promoted) extremism to flourish in this country whilst labelling anyone who does not want to live under a future caliphate a racist or an Islamophobe.
We are a joke - France puts us to shame.
It will be a living Nightmare if this country becomes islamic. And if it does become islamic most non muslims will went to get out of it.
It will be a living Nightmare if this country becomes islamic. And if it does become islamic most non muslims will went to get out of it.
If the free world suddenly found itself under the rule of a caliphate, the Islamic apologists would very quickly find themselves whistling a different tune.
If the free world suddenly found itself under the rule of a caliphate, the Islamic apologists would very quickly find themselves whistling a different tune.
i hope they would, but you have to wonder who side they would take.
If the free world suddenly found itself under the rule of a caliphate, the Islamic apologists would very quickly find themselves whistling a different tune.
Perhaps not as they would probably be dead - as would all of us who dare to disagree with the tenets of the religion of hate.
It will be a living Nightmare if this country becomes islamic. And if it does become islamic most non muslims will went to get out of it.
There is absolutely no one that will ethnically cleanse my household, neither will I turn my back on the hundreds of deceased relatives and ancestors that I visit annually.
Remember when the BBC actually put a positive spin on the fact that 25% of Muslims' supported the mass murder of the cartoonists?
Totally disgusting.
As for the ideology of Islam it is a repulsive cancer that is spreading it's evil all over the world.
But our spineless politicians have allowed (or even promoted) extremism to flourish in this country whilst labelling anyone who does not want to live under a future caliphate a racist or an Islamophobe.
We are a joke - France puts us to shame.
3.7 million stood up against the terrorists and extreme Islam.
The two aren't mutually exclusive, that the girls were influenced by their parents and they were attracted by propaganda photos on the Internet. That would be even more likely if their parents had sympathy with jihadists, not less likely. I'm not sure why that's so hard for some to accept, considering that it ( wanting husband) occurred in cases we know about. But I wouldn't want to confuse anyone with facts.
You still make apologies for the mini me Jihadettes and the crew ... astonishing. At what age do you think a human actually takes responsibility for their own actions?
I was taught right from wrong at a very young age. Are you saying I am more intelligent, as I seemed to have grasped the concept very quickly?
Is this really boiling down to a matter of IQ?...Interesting if it is. Please continue.
You still make apologies for the mini me Jihadettes and the crew ... astonishing. At what age do you think a human actually takes responsibility for their own actions?
I was taught right from wrong at a very young age. Are you saying I am more intelligent, as I seemed to have grasped the concept very quickly?
Is this really boiling down to a matter of IQ?...Interesting if it is. Please continue.
Could it be 'only straight A grade students' have the intelligence to 'not' grasp the concept.:D
I assume that legally, adults ( 18 and over) take responsibility for certain actions, like deciding to leave the country or cohabitate with someone who is possibly an adult. The girl in the US who was going to leave with her adult brother, is probably a typical example of a girl who had a vague romantic notion that she was going to " marry someone handsome" like her brother, and was going to leave with him, before he was arrested (she was not). Academic intelligence does not have that much to do with it. Could work the opposite.
I assume that legally, adults ( 18 and over) take responsibility for certain actions, like deciding to leave the country or cohabitate with someone who is possibly an adult. The girl in the US who was going to leave with her adult brother, is probably a typical example of a girl who had a vague romantic notion that she was going to " marry someone handsome" like her brother, and was going to leave with him, before he was arrested (she was not). Academic intelligence does not have that much to do with it. Could work the opposite.
Point one, never assume anything, it makes an ass of u and me, surprised you have not heard of it.
2. the UK you are deemed old enough to join the armed forces, have sex with consent, and get a provisional driving licence.
3. You know what, I asked by 15 year old granddaughter what she thought of this scenario...she must be highly intelligent as she realised that probably spammers had been in contact or some nasty paedo and certainly wouldn't rip her family off in order to run away and join this unknown vertical friend.
She was fully aware who IS were, as she reads the newspapers and watches the news.
Is my granddaughter a remarkable genius? No I doubt it, but she is aware of what is going on around her and has a very good upbringing, compliments of her parents who learnt their lessons from their parents...people like me.
4. Your excuses and attempts to dumb down people is simply laughable.
Could it be 'only straight A grade students' have the intelligence to 'not' grasp the concept.:D
Selective intelligence? :D:D
I wonder if we can do a mathematical calculation to test this theory...I hear the Islamic brigade love Science and maths, they had a golden age don't you know.
If 15 year old's are so impressionable and lack critical thinking such they can't distinguish right from wrong.
That would be ideal. These girls were labeled as Muslim at birth, and were indoctrinated with Islam as soon as they could understand language. They are past the point of no return now, and even if presented with undeniable evidence Mohammed was not a prophet and Allah does not exist, they would still believe the Koran to be true.
If 15 year old's are so impressionable and lack critical thinking such they can't distinguish right from wrong.
Wouldn't the apologists for Islam actually advocate banning anyone under the age of 18 to being taught religion or enter any mosque?
That is far too simplistic for the higher brain , that's like saying someone else is responsible, like the nanny aka mo jo. We need ,nay ,we must be prodded like camels to spit when commanded.
That would be ideal. These girls were labeled as Muslim at birth, and were indoctrinated with Islam as soon as they could understand language. They are past the point of no return now, and even if presented with undeniable evidence Mohammed was not a prophet and Allah does not exist, they would still believe the Koran to be true.
That's assuming the girls are not ditched in the sands of 'wisdom' to die in the first place as an unwanted part of the litter, unless she can be sold, naturally.
The girls have always been tantamount to dogs in daddy's eyes.
But you didn't mention the possibility that perhaps their families may have been involved in extremism. They were lured by Nutella pancakes and hunky men according to you.
You also stated that non-Muslims were joining ISIS, but obviously could not back it up with any facts when questioned.
Nutella Pancakes are selling it to me (not)...how would Shakespeare portray such prostitution?
So the school is being investigated by counter extremism officials - and Mr Teddy Bear and his family haven't been seen for a month.
Oh - and he doesn't work - he's got an injury. Nice living in a nurturing welfare state, isn't it? You'd think it would be something to appreciate rather than something to revile. ^_^
I assume that legally, adults ( 18 and over) take responsibility for certain actions, like deciding to leave the country or cohabitate with someone who is possibly an adult. The girl in the US who was going to leave with her adult brother, is probably a typical example of a girl who had a vague romantic notion that she was going to " marry someone handsome" like her brother, and was going to leave with him, before he was arrested (she was not). Academic intelligence does not have that much to do with it. Could work the opposite.
why are you always going on about some girl who's going off to elope with someone ? this isn't some tacky romance novel .
You keep ignoring what these girls did - they joined a terrorist organisation , an organisation they investigated at great length and went to great trouble to join .
an organisation that commits genocide and ethnic cleansing , hates other religions , a holy war , beheadings etc.
why are you always going on about some girl who's going off to elope with someone ? this isn't some tacky romance novel .
You keep ignoring what these girls did - they joined a terrorist organisation , an organisation they investigated at great length and went to great trouble to join .
an organisation that commits genocide and ethnic cleansing , hates other religions , a holy war , beheadings etc.
So the school is being investigated by counter extremism officials - and Mr Teddy Bear and his family haven't been seen for a month.
Oh - and he doesn't work - he's got an injury. Nice living in a nurturing welfare state, isn't it? You'd think it would be something to appreciate rather than something to revile. ^_^
It's futile can't see what the point of them being there, unless Jhahdi Daddy "Knows" someone, by the company he seems to keep
But I doubt very much those girls are coming back, they are in a lawless state and the property of their husbands.
No Human Rights, no laws get their loved ones back, bit of a bummer really!
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But you didn't mention the possibility that perhaps their families may have been involved in extremism. They were lured by Nutella pancakes and hunky men according to you.
You also stated that non-Muslims were joining ISIS, but obviously could not back it up with any facts when questioned.
Totally disgusting.
As for the ideology of Islam it is a repulsive cancer that is spreading it's evil all over the world.
But our spineless politicians have allowed (or even promoted) extremism to flourish in this country whilst labelling anyone who does not want to live under a future caliphate a racist or an Islamophobe.
We are a joke - France puts us to shame.
It will be a living Nightmare if this country becomes islamic. And if it does become islamic most non muslims will went to get out of it.
If the free world suddenly found itself under the rule of a caliphate, the Islamic apologists would very quickly find themselves whistling a different tune.
i hope they would, but you have to wonder who side they would take.
Perhaps not as they would probably be dead - as would all of us who dare to disagree with the tenets of the religion of hate.
There is absolutely no one that will ethnically cleanse my household, neither will I turn my back on the hundreds of deceased relatives and ancestors that I visit annually.
And that is an end to the matter.
3.7 million stood up against the terrorists and extreme Islam.
http://www.ijreview.com/2015/01/230703-millions-showed-frances-largest-march-since-nazi-liberation-key-figure-missing/
Just look at the numbers that say NO to Islam, it is very humbling.
You still make apologies for the mini me Jihadettes and the crew ... astonishing. At what age do you think a human actually takes responsibility for their own actions?
I was taught right from wrong at a very young age. Are you saying I am more intelligent, as I seemed to have grasped the concept very quickly?
Is this really boiling down to a matter of IQ?...Interesting if it is. Please continue.
Could it be 'only straight A grade students' have the intelligence to 'not' grasp the concept.:D
Point one, never assume anything, it makes an ass of u and me, surprised you have not heard of it.
2. the UK you are deemed old enough to join the armed forces, have sex with consent, and get a provisional driving licence.
3. You know what, I asked by 15 year old granddaughter what she thought of this scenario...she must be highly intelligent as she realised that probably spammers had been in contact or some nasty paedo and certainly wouldn't rip her family off in order to run away and join this unknown vertical friend.
She was fully aware who IS were, as she reads the newspapers and watches the news.
Is my granddaughter a remarkable genius? No I doubt it, but she is aware of what is going on around her and has a very good upbringing, compliments of her parents who learnt their lessons from their parents...people like me.
4. Your excuses and attempts to dumb down people is simply laughable.
Selective intelligence?
I wonder if we can do a mathematical calculation to test this theory...I hear the Islamic brigade love Science and maths, they had a golden age don't you know.
Wouldn't the apologists for Islam actually advocate banning anyone under the age of 18 to being taught religion or enter any mosque?
That would be ideal. These girls were labeled as Muslim at birth, and were indoctrinated with Islam as soon as they could understand language. They are past the point of no return now, and even if presented with undeniable evidence Mohammed was not a prophet and Allah does not exist, they would still believe the Koran to be true.
That is far too simplistic for the higher brain , that's like saying someone else is responsible, like the nanny aka mo jo. We need ,nay ,we must be prodded like camels to spit when commanded.
That's assuming the girls are not ditched in the sands of 'wisdom' to die in the first place as an unwanted part of the litter, unless she can be sold, naturally.
The girls have always been tantamount to dogs in daddy's eyes.
Nutella Pancakes are selling it to me (not)...how would Shakespeare portray such prostitution?
Oh - and he doesn't work - he's got an injury. Nice living in a nurturing welfare state, isn't it? You'd think it would be something to appreciate rather than something to revile. ^_^
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3017345/Now-jihadi-bride-school-centre-terror-probe-Academy-four-pupils-left-join-ISIS-investigated-counter-extremism-officials.html
why are you always going on about some girl who's going off to elope with someone ? this isn't some tacky romance novel .
You keep ignoring what these girls did - they joined a terrorist organisation , an organisation they investigated at great length and went to great trouble to join .
an organisation that commits genocide and ethnic cleansing , hates other religions , a holy war , beheadings etc.
.
some people are just burying their heads in the sand
Weren't they in Turkey a few days ago?
I've no idea - I haven't seen any press articles but maybe I missed them .
The article said that they had not been seen for a month by neighbours - I should have made that clear perhaps.
It's futile can't see what the point of them being there, unless Jhahdi Daddy "Knows" someone, by the company he seems to keep
But I doubt very much those girls are coming back, they are in a lawless state and the property of their husbands.
No Human Rights, no laws get their loved ones back, bit of a bummer really!