"In science, the debate is ongoing"
dee123
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Creationism should be taught along side evolution.
Varying views on the age of the earth.
Varying views on if humans & dinosaurs co-existed.
Arguments put forward by climate-change deniers could be included in Science lesson plans.
Not to mention all those fine writers who almost got banned. Such an embarrassment in this day & age.
http://io9.com/an-anti-evolution-bill-in-ohio-almost-included-a-ban-on-1624450396/all
Varying views on the age of the earth.
Varying views on if humans & dinosaurs co-existed.
Arguments put forward by climate-change deniers could be included in Science lesson plans.
Not to mention all those fine writers who almost got banned. Such an embarrassment in this day & age.
http://io9.com/an-anti-evolution-bill-in-ohio-almost-included-a-ban-on-1624450396/all
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No wonder over 40% of Americans are creationists.
Sigh.
I haven't read the details of this "HB 597" legislation but, on the face of it, the idea of legislation that would "prohibit political or religious interpretation of scientific facts" actually seems like a good idea to me.
Why are they getting all bent out of shape over it?
Seems like it'd just be a case of saying "Some people think that the Earth is only 2,000 years old (or whatever) but the existence of stuff like coal and lead easily refute that so now let's move on to discussing how scientists go about attempting to establish the age of the universe and the planet...."
The most concerning thing is that people who put fantasy before sense are in power.
Actually I very much doubt many politicians in the US actually believe in this creationist tosh (or even in God for that matter).
It is simply to garner votes from the sheeple.
No atheist will be elected President in the US in my lifetime.
Is Hilary a lock for the Democrats? I still don't really believe America will elect a woman to the oval office.
Not sure we've ever had an atheist or even agnostic Prime Minister.
I know Ed Milliband is Jewish, but not sure if he's a believer - wonder if that will be used against him if things get desperate next year?
No it wouldn't be a case of that. The bill is about Creationists trying to get Creationism taught as if all the evidence wasn't showing that evolution took place. They want to "teach the controversy" in science classes when there is no controversy amongst scientists.
Of course "In science, the debate is ongoing" is always correct but you do have to base this on evidence and all the evidence shows that evolution did happen and that is what should be taught. Note that they aren't interested in teaching alternative theories to gravity.
I wish they were - perhaps if they all jumped off some very tall buildings to prove that 'intelligent falling' is true we would not have to put up with such creationist bullshit in the comments section of just about every palaeontological news article on the net.
funny how belief in religon has evolved over time .....
I find it interesting that you're proposing presenting different views on various topics, except for one.
Why not include the arguments of the climate-change fanatics?
Clegg's atheist so if anything happened to Dave...
Milliband is a non-believer too.
I propose the Ancient Alien theory be taught in History Class. Aliens built the pyramids so they may fire microwave beams off into space!
Teach the controversy!
I had a friend who was a member of one of those freaky churches. She believed in Creationism. It was like debating with jelly when we talked about it. We're not friends now as she decided my lifestyle wasn't to her taste and I refused all her efforts to be saved.
Technology changes, scientific methods change, humanity changes. Just because a question was answered 200 years ago, does not mean we cannot find new information now.
With regards to evolution vs creationism specifically (which was the basis of this thread), I highly doubt evidence for young earth creationism will ever be found seeing as it's completely nonsensical and ridiculous.
Well it is extremely unlikely that there will ever be evidence of creationist theory and I am far from a creationist but there is a reason evolution is still referred to as a theory. Who knows what evidence will appear 50, 100, 200 years from now? All I am saying is that the reason I love science is because theories are constantly evolving as new facts are discovered.
...The Bible (add in Qu'ran) is busy enough contradicting itself!!!
However, we should never be arrogant enough to assume that there aren't new things to learn or that new paradigm shifts in what we do know (and apply) will never take place.