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Call for Olympic Stadium Public Inquiry

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    radio4extracrapradio4extracrap Posts: 2,933
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    pork.pie wrote: »
    Why did this need a new thread? You have one on this subject already.

    'Update'...
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,664
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    pork.pie wrote: »
    Why did this need a new thread? You have one on this subject already.

    This was actually the fifth. :o

    EDIT: He's just posted up the sixth.
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    StaunchyStaunchy Posts: 10,904
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    'Update'...

    i thought that's what the "Post Reply" button is for.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,664
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    Oh FFS! Six threads?!?!?!? >:( Can one of the mods DO something about this spamming?
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    The_don1The_don1 Posts: 17,470
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    Have contacted them asking them to
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    SurrenderBillSurrenderBill Posts: 19,084
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    'Update'...

    I'd call it spam, and my opinion is that your account should receive the appropriate sanction.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,664
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    The_don1 wrote: »
    Have contacted them asking them to

    Nice one, thank you. Will do the same in the morning if no action has been taken.
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    Jol44Jol44 Posts: 21,048
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    Taxpayers face a bill for £190m to covert the £429m athletics stadium into a football ground.
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    Jol44Jol44 Posts: 21,048
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    Given that public finances worth ove £600 million have funded the stadium's construction and conversion costs, Londoners deserve to know what they will receive, should WHUFC's owners sell up.

    – LONDON ASSEMBLY REPORT
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    radio4extracrapradio4extracrap Posts: 2,933
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    kaybee15 wrote: »
    Oh FFS! Six threads?!?!?!? >:( Can one of the mods DO something about this spamming?


    You need to go back to school. You can't count. It's three. Football, Sport and Politics.
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    Eddie hunterEddie hunter Posts: 4,231
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    You need to go back to school. You can't count. It's three. Football, Sport and Politics.

    This is the second in the football forum and its just advertising the petition. If people want to sign it they will without further spam.
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    radio4extracrapradio4extracrap Posts: 2,933
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    This is the second in the football forum and its just advertising the petition. If people want to sign it they will without further spam.

    Notification that other, and large too, clubs' fans are becoming involved. Its hardly spam.
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    The_don1The_don1 Posts: 17,470
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    Notification that other, and large too, clubs' fans are becoming involved. Its hardly spam.

    But why is it not part of the discussion already taking place? This is a place to discuss issues not to advertise people jumping on their soapbox
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,664
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    You need to go back to school. You can't count. It's three. Football, Sport and Politics.
    Original threads in F, S, and P. 'Updates' ie new threads, in F and P. A deleted update thread from F.

    That's six threads on the same subject. I await your apology.

    Edit: and it's all been condensed into one thread, so it seems that DS agrees it is spam. Have you hit the giddy heights of 23'000 signatures in a week yet?
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    The_don1The_don1 Posts: 17,470
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    Jol44 wrote: »
    Taxpayers face a bill for £190m to covert the £429m athletics stadium into a football ground.

    No

    Taxpayers face a bill for 190m to convert the 429m atheltics stadium to a multi use stadium as was the plan when it was built
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    The_don1The_don1 Posts: 17,470
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    Jol44 wrote: »
    Given that public finances worth ove £600 million have funded the stadium's construction and conversion costs, Londoners deserve to know what they will receive, should WHUFC's owners sell up.

    – LONDON ASSEMBLY REPORT

    Have you any information that they intend to do so?

    Do you want to know what will happen for every possible scenario?
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    sbuggsbugg Posts: 3,203
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    CALL FOR OLYMPIC STADIUM PUBLIC INQUIRY GOES NATIONAL blah blah blah
    Where was all this indignation when Man City got the Commonwealth Stadium, but then the only support they threatened was Man United so that was ok.
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    sbuggsbugg Posts: 3,203
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    Jol44 wrote: »
    Given that public finances worth ove £600 million have funded the stadium's construction and conversion costs, Londoners deserve to know what they will receive, should WHUFC's owners sell up.

    – LONDON ASSEMBLY REPORT

    West Ham will be renting it, they will not own it, do you know the difference between renting and owning?
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    codebluecodeblue Posts: 14,072
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    sbugg wrote: »
    West Ham will be renting it, they will not own it, do you know the difference between renting and owning?

    and what is their huge rent they will pay for this 700m stadium?

    probably 30million a year, right?
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    sbuggsbugg Posts: 3,203
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    codeblue wrote: »
    and what is their huge rent they will pay for this 700m stadium?

    probably 30million a year, right?

    What would you say was a fair rent for using a stadium 20 days out of 365. or should WHU pay the rent for all the other sports that will take place there?

    Someone here with me just said how come the clubs themselves are not part of this, just the Supporters Trusts. That might be down to not wanting to be open to litigation if WHU are denied use of the stadium at this late stage. Could be a nice bit off compo there.

    Also a Public Enquiry Starts at 10mil (the basic cost) so who's really worried about wasting public money?
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    The_don1The_don1 Posts: 17,470
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    codeblue wrote: »
    and what is their huge rent they will pay for this 700m stadium?

    probably 30million a year, right?

    They are not renting it for a year.

    They are renting it for certain days.

    They would not be allowed access for days they are not renting.

    Its very very simple. Many churches RENT their churches out to other churches to use when they don't use it. They would more then likely do a block booking of a year or so (every Sunday from 2pm - 5pm for example).
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    The_don1The_don1 Posts: 17,470
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    sbugg wrote: »
    What would you say was a fair rent for using a stadium 20 days out of 365. or should WHU pay the rent for all the other sports that will take place there?

    Someone here with me just said how come the clubs themselves are not part of this, just the Supporters Trusts. That might be down to not wanting to be open to litigation if WHU are denied use of the stadium at this late stage. Could be a nice bit off compo there.

    Also a Public Enquiry Starts at 10mil (the basic cost) so who's really worried about wasting public money?

    Mainly because supporter trusts will make a statement about the price of a packet of ready salted crisps if you asked them
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    ShaunIOWShaunIOW Posts: 11,329
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    The_don1 wrote: »
    They are not renting it for a year.

    They are renting it for certain days.

    They would not be allowed access for days they are not renting.

    Its very very simple. Many churches RENT their churches out to other churches to use when they don't use it. They would more then likely do a block booking of a year or so (every Sunday from 2pm - 5pm for example).

    How can West Hm block book the stadium for certain days when they don't know what days they will need it on? What would happen if it was booked for a Saturday match, then someone else booked it for the Sunday, then Sky moved the match to the Sunday for TV? Or the stadium was booked in advance for something then West ham were drawn at home in the cup on that day? By West Ham being there it will limit other things the stadium can be used for and consequently the income that can be made from it, especially as it can't be pre-booked too far in advance as the most notice West ham can give for a match day is about `10 months, and even then matches can be changed.
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    The_don1The_don1 Posts: 17,470
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    ShaunIOW wrote: »
    How can West Hm block book the stadium for certain days when they don't know what days they will need it on? What would happen if it was booked for a Saturday match, then someone else booked it for the Sunday, then Sky moved the match to the Sunday for TV? Or the stadium was booked in advance for something then West ham were drawn at home in the cup on that day? By West Ham being there it will limit other things the stadium can be used for and consequently the income that can be made from it, especially as it can't be pre-booked too far in advance as the most notice West ham can give for a match day is about `10 months, and even then matches can be changed.

    That's a logistics issue that can be dealt with by good diary management.

    A venue like this needs a "main" tenant who is willing to book a big amount of dates long term. Apart from a football team I cannot think of another business that logically would be willing to book a series of regular dates long term (only from memory West Ham have signed for 99 years). Any business would give such a contract some movement with dates and VIP treatment that signed such a long term contract with them. In fact I doubt many companies who organize events on a regular basis would sign such a deal with one venue
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