If most events were filmed in 4K & 3D then downscaled to HD this would be the best of both worlds lots of content in all aspects and no one loses.
Some smart Alec will disagree as they want to and can't see the merit in it.
But this way EVERYONE gets the content they want in their prefered way.
SD, HD, 3D, 4K. even black and white if you mess with TV settings... lol
Future proofed and backwards compatible.
And FAR more expensive
You don't need to be a 'smart alec' (just smart ) to see the huge flaws in your silly idea.
While making programmes in 4K (films are already probably made in higher res) is a reasonably good idea, and will obviously become more and more common, 3D has flopped every single time it's been released, and this last incarnation is no different.
As a quick guide, at john lewis, I note the following:
LED backlit sets:
4 out of 21 of the 32-39" tvs have 3d
13 out of 20 of the 40-46" tvs have 3d
15 out of 20 of the 47-52" tvs have 3d
24 out of 26 of the 55-65" tvs have 3d
Overall, 60 out of 113 LED backlit sets have 3d
OLED
Their 1 oled set has 3d
Plasma
3 out of 5 sets have 3d
4K
16 out of 18 have 3d.
I suspect last year there were more with 3d but it's not totally finished yet.
We Have had 3d a 3D TV for about 18 months ,it is the main TV in the lounge and hooked up to a Sky HD box and a BR player for content, everyone wanted to watch as much as possible in 3D for the first 3 months , after that interest just like content dwained
I have since purchased 2 more 3D TVs (purely on price) ,the one located in the conservatory as never had a 3d programme watched on it,whilst the other 3d is in my bedroom and directly attached to a Sky HD I have only ever once watched a film via this TV,just to compare PQ against the main TV
I think the general rule is after a short period of time it becomes a novelty that wears off
We Have had 3d a 3D TV for about 18 months ,it is the main TV in the lounge and hooked up to a Sky HD box and a BR player for content, everyone wanted to watch as much as possible in 3D for the first 3 months , after that interest just like content dwained
I have since purchased 2 more 3D TVs (purely on price) ,the one located in the conservatory as never had a 3d programme watched on it,whilst the other 3d is in my bedroom and directly attached to a Sky HD I have only ever once watched a film via this TV,just to compare PQ against the main TV
I think the general rule is after a short period of time it becomes a novelty that wears off
Anyone else feel the same
Well i've had my 3D TV for just over 4 years and i still watch alot of programs in 3D today. But i do realise i'm one of a minority of people that watch 3D on their TV and i don't think the 3D channel will last as going concern in the future.
Ian.
Well i've had my 3D TV for just over 4 years and i still watch alot of programs in 3D today. But i do realise i'm one of a minority of people that watch 3D on their TV and i don't think the 3D channel will last as going concern in the future.
Ian.
(IMO) I think it will be culled within the next 18 months.
The costs to produce 3D content for the small viewing numbers is way too much.
The likelihood is it will move to OD for films and what content they have and the capacity be used for something else aswell as the EPG slot.
(IMO) I think it will be culled within the next 18 months.
The costs to produce 3D content for the small viewing numbers is way too much.
The likelihood is it will move to OD for films and what content they have and the capacity be used for something else aswell as the EPG slot.
I think there will always be 3d. Its not been going that long so very much doubt it'll be stopped. New TVs which don't need glasses are coming out and I think then it will take off.
I think there will always be 3d. Its not been going that long so very much doubt it'll be stopped. New TVs which don't need glasses are coming out and I think then it will take off.
I prefer to watch 3D Blu-ray than watch 3D on TV. As the BBC said, it's too clunky. Apart from the glasses, you have to switch the TV to 3D, then you get a warning every time you do that which then has to be switched off and then you have to select the type of 3D from a group of images (I have a LG passive TV) and having done all that, makes it extremely cumbersome to channel hop!
I wonder If Sky will close their 3D channel then, launch a Sky Sports 6, so they could put some limited well advertised 3D sport on there (with the SD version just showing the left eye downslcaled) and have 3D films on demand only?
For the 3D entertainment they would have to do the same as for 3D sport any advertise it well [using a downscaled left eye for SD and repeating the program so it can be shown in HD (not 3D) too?
How about a +1 channel showing a SD version for the right eye ?
How about a +1 channel showing a SD version for the right eye ?
LOL the right eye is the same thing nearly just at a slightly different position! I guess it would be fun to have two TVs side by side though, with one eye on one and the other on the other!
It makes VERY little difference, particularly now that they all seem to use cheap passive systems, so cheap glasses.
Everything else is just software.
Basically you need a bit more processor power etc. - but you get that in more expensive sets anyway.
In reality it keeps the price 'lower', because making a set of the same quality without 3D and SMART functions would only sell in small numbers, so cost more.
Shopping around helps too, cost-wise. Look for companies that specialise in selling on customer returns because the like of Comet and John Lewis aren't allowed to sell them on. The 55" Samsung set I bought back in April was the latest 2014 model and was half price.
Shopping around helps too, cost-wise. Look for companies that specialise in selling on customer returns because the like of Comet and John Lewis aren't allowed to sell them on. The 55" Samsung set I bought back in April was the latest 2014 model and was half price.
Comet went into Administration end of 2012 so it would be hard to buy any goods now
Well i've had my 3D TV for just over 4 years and i still watch alot of programs in 3D today. But i do realise i'm one of a minority of people that watch 3D on their TV and i don't think the 3D channel will last as going concern in the future.
Ian.
Watching a lot of repeats then, there has not really been that much new content appearing lately.
I think there will always be 3d. Its not been going that long so very much doubt it'll be stopped. New TVs which don't need glasses are coming out and I think then it will take off.
They have been fiddling with 3D for years, they keep coming up with trials, but they fail as very few people was interested. Ok so we never had 3D TV sets as such, but 3D TV sets have more or less been pushed onto people, if they want it or not and it seems that once again 3D is failing.
Granted it seems to be more popular in cinemas, but maybe again because it is being pushed onto people. In our old cinema, where they only had one screen, if there was a film, it would be 3D for most of the week and weekend and you may get one day in 2D.
It may be different now we got the new cinema with more screens, hopefully they will show both versions at the same time.
I think there will always be 3d. Its not been going that long so very much doubt it'll be stopped. New TVs which don't need glasses are coming out and I think then it will take off.
But they are not that good, you got to be right in front for the 3D to work.
They have been fiddling with 3D for years, they keep coming up with trials, but they fail as very few people was interested. Ok so we never had 3D TV sets as such, but 3D TV sets have more or less been pushed onto people, if they want it or not and it seems that once again 3D is failing.
Granted it seems to be more popular in cinemas, but maybe again because it is being pushed onto people. In our old cinema, where they only had one screen, if there was a film, it would be 3D for most of the week and weekend and you may get one day in 2D.
It may be different now we got the new cinema with more screens, hopefully they will show both versions at the same time.
Nobody is pushing people to use 3D, its just pretty much standard now on TVs but you don't have to use it or the internet via your TV, its just part of what modern TV,s offer.
We don't use the 3D feature much on any of our 3D enabled TV's mainly due to lack of content for adults but the grand children enjoy the like of Toy Story in 3D, great fun for them...their minds are open to new ideas and not closed before even trying it as is the case with some adults.
Nobody is pushing people to use 3D, its just pretty much standard now on TVs but you don't have to use it or the internet via your TV, its just part of what modern TV,s offer.
Ok, maybe I worded that wrong, TV sets with these features on are being pushed onto people then.
Of cause you don't have to use the feature, but most people will try them. so when we are told that sales of 3D TV have by passed normal TV sets, it is because places like currys push people into buying them
I know my next door neigbours Tv have never been in 3d mode and have never been connected to the net. I just wonder how many other people have done the same thing?
We don't use the 3D feature much on any of our 3D enabled TV's mainly due to lack of content for adults but the grand children enjoy the like of Toy Story in 3D, great fun for them...their minds are open to new ideas and not closed before even trying it as is the case with some adults.
I am not closed to the idea of 3D, but I do wonder how much damage 3DTv is doing to peoples eyes.
I have watched 3D when I was younger, when they done trials and strange enough they worked for me, but modern 3D TV sets do not work for me, the ones that use passive specs do nothing and the active ones give me headaches.
I don't even have anything against smart Tv sets if they was better and offered more.
but if/when i buy another TV set, I will be looking for one without these features, because in my opinion unless you get one in a sale, they push the prices up.
I am not that impressed with new TV sets anyway, they make them thinner and thinner and the sound on them are awful
That is what I have been saying about upscaling for years, if the quality is not there you are not going to get it back.
The only thing is that upscaling is the only way to watch SD content on a HD screen, so it has to be done well enough to look good, otherwise no one could watch SD content again!
and dont say that you can send it SD to the TV so it isnt upscaling as a HD panel still needs to upscale an SD input to fill the HD screen!
best thing about 3D is the documentaries that David Attenborough has done. Absolutely stunning. Animated movies can be excellent too and my family and I have sat and watched quite a few that have been shown on the Sky 3D channel.
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Some smart Alec will disagree as they want to and can't see the merit in it.
But this way EVERYONE gets the content they want in their prefered way.
SD, HD, 3D, 4K. even black and white if you mess with TV settings... lol
Future proofed and backwards compatible.
And FAR more expensive
You don't need to be a 'smart alec' (just smart
While making programmes in 4K (films are already probably made in higher res) is a reasonably good idea, and will obviously become more and more common, 3D has flopped every single time it's been released, and this last incarnation is no different.
LED backlit sets:
4 out of 21 of the 32-39" tvs have 3d
13 out of 20 of the 40-46" tvs have 3d
15 out of 20 of the 47-52" tvs have 3d
24 out of 26 of the 55-65" tvs have 3d
Overall, 60 out of 113 LED backlit sets have 3d
OLED
Their 1 oled set has 3d
Plasma
3 out of 5 sets have 3d
4K
16 out of 18 have 3d.
I suspect last year there were more with 3d but it's not totally finished yet.
I have since purchased 2 more 3D TVs (purely on price) ,the one located in the conservatory as never had a 3d programme watched on it,whilst the other 3d is in my bedroom and directly attached to a Sky HD I have only ever once watched a film via this TV,just to compare PQ against the main TV
I think the general rule is after a short period of time it becomes a novelty that wears off
Anyone else feel the same
It does depend on the film / program though. I wouldn't want to watch every film in 3D.
Well i've had my 3D TV for just over 4 years and i still watch alot of programs in 3D today. But i do realise i'm one of a minority of people that watch 3D on their TV and i don't think the 3D channel will last as going concern in the future.
Ian.
(IMO) I think it will be culled within the next 18 months.
The costs to produce 3D content for the small viewing numbers is way too much.
The likelihood is it will move to OD for films and what content they have and the capacity be used for something else aswell as the EPG slot.
I think there will always be 3d. Its not been going that long so very much doubt it'll be stopped. New TVs which don't need glasses are coming out and I think then it will take off.
Agreed!
How about a +1 channel showing a SD version for the right eye ?
LOL the right eye is the same thing nearly just at a slightly different position! I guess it would be fun to have two TVs side by side though, with one eye on one and the other on the other!
Shopping around helps too, cost-wise. Look for companies that specialise in selling on customer returns because the like of Comet and John Lewis aren't allowed to sell them on. The 55" Samsung set I bought back in April was the latest 2014 model and was half price.
Comet went into Administration end of 2012 so it would be hard to buy any goods now
Watching a lot of repeats then, there has not really been that much new content appearing lately.
That is what I have been saying about upscaling for years, if the quality is not there you are not going to get it back.
They have been fiddling with 3D for years, they keep coming up with trials, but they fail as very few people was interested. Ok so we never had 3D TV sets as such, but 3D TV sets have more or less been pushed onto people, if they want it or not and it seems that once again 3D is failing.
Granted it seems to be more popular in cinemas, but maybe again because it is being pushed onto people. In our old cinema, where they only had one screen, if there was a film, it would be 3D for most of the week and weekend and you may get one day in 2D.
It may be different now we got the new cinema with more screens, hopefully they will show both versions at the same time.
But they are not that good, you got to be right in front for the 3D to work.
Nobody is pushing people to use 3D, its just pretty much standard now on TVs but you don't have to use it or the internet via your TV, its just part of what modern TV,s offer.
We don't use the 3D feature much on any of our 3D enabled TV's mainly due to lack of content for adults but the grand children enjoy the like of Toy Story in 3D, great fun for them...their minds are open to new ideas and not closed before even trying it as is the case with some adults.
Ok, maybe I worded that wrong, TV sets with these features on are being pushed onto people then.
Of cause you don't have to use the feature, but most people will try them. so when we are told that sales of 3D TV have by passed normal TV sets, it is because places like currys push people into buying them
I know my next door neigbours Tv have never been in 3d mode and have never been connected to the net. I just wonder how many other people have done the same thing?
I am not closed to the idea of 3D, but I do wonder how much damage 3DTv is doing to peoples eyes.
I have watched 3D when I was younger, when they done trials and strange enough they worked for me, but modern 3D TV sets do not work for me, the ones that use passive specs do nothing and the active ones give me headaches.
I don't even have anything against smart Tv sets if they was better and offered more.
but if/when i buy another TV set, I will be looking for one without these features, because in my opinion unless you get one in a sale, they push the prices up.
I am not that impressed with new TV sets anyway, they make them thinner and thinner and the sound on them are awful
The only thing is that upscaling is the only way to watch SD content on a HD screen, so it has to be done well enough to look good, otherwise no one could watch SD content again!
and dont say that you can send it SD to the TV so it isnt upscaling as a HD panel still needs to upscale an SD input to fill the HD screen!
me too! its a shame sport hasn't embraced it. hollywood is still regularly pumping out 3d movies though.
I also use 3d tv for gaming, where its also niche but brilliant.
Would be good to see the likes of netflix and youtube offer 3d more - both have limited support and neither seem to work well with my Tv.