Jan Moir at The Daily Mail does it again
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1354725/Amanda-Holden-miscarriage-Celebrity-condolence-tweeting-offensive.html
That's it Jan. Do a whole piece about celebs tweeting personal stuff. Oh yes and include a couple of pictures of Amanda Holden pregnant so we can all remember what she looked like before it all went so sadly wrong. Of course you are just drawing attention to all of this to fill a column in a paper which is far far worse that sending someone condolences over twitter. What a vile opportunistic 'journalist' (made me retch to write that) you truly are.
That's it Jan. Do a whole piece about celebs tweeting personal stuff. Oh yes and include a couple of pictures of Amanda Holden pregnant so we can all remember what she looked like before it all went so sadly wrong. Of course you are just drawing attention to all of this to fill a column in a paper which is far far worse that sending someone condolences over twitter. What a vile opportunistic 'journalist' (made me retch to write that) you truly are.
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Also, if i was amanda, would i be looking back through pages of twitter to look for messages? No.
Haven't people heard of the telephone or sending a note via pen and paper these days?? Surely they could find the means to pass on their best wishes privately.
To see these 'messages of condolence' sandwiched amongst the usual trite and trivial offerings of minor celebrities plugging their latest TV show is tasteless indeed.
Twitter isn't the place for hand-wringing and faux grief over such a private matter.
I don't. Someone mentioned it on facebook and it was on the website so I had a look. I just thought it was in incredibly poor taste.
Maybe it is an article that could have been written in a few months time but her timing, as always, so wide off the mark and offensive.
THIS.
Amanda herself is a frequent user and would have probably tweeted her condelences when another celebrity had suffered stillbirth. Maybe it's not great to use twitter but at the end it's the message that helps and consoles, not the technology.
Jan Moir is just a misogynic, moaning, sad old woman, who should get herself a real job.
I don't of course believe many of those celebrities tweeting their sympathy haven't also sent a card or made a call, though it must be so difficult to know what to say, but then that leads me to believe some maybe felt they had to be seen sending their condolences to avoid a thread on forums like this, slating them for being so uncaring.
It is also the case in situations like this that knowing what to say does not come to all and it's quite human to be selfish enough to believe your public condolence (a tweet in this case) is enough and you've done your bit. I wouldn't think any less of someone if this was the case, as I've said its only human. I'd hate to have to do it myself and so wouldn't judge another.
Sugar, of course, had chimed in with his own message of sympathy the other day.
He's a tetchy one sometimes.
I dont think it's appropriate to call unless you are close friend or relative of the couple, Im sure most of the celebrities only know her vaguely through tv work and may not even have her number plus I doubt they want the hassle of talking to different people every two minuites.But I do agree that there are different ways to show sympathy- the old fashioned way, through a card seems the best way to me. If people dont know her address im sure they could have posted to her management who would forward on. Im not sure about text or emails - but at least theyre private and you know the person will eventually read them maybe more quickly than a card.
I always feel uncomfortable when people write on someone s facebook wall after a relative dies, I know people are just showing concern but why is it so important for everyone to view your messgae, whats wrong with a personal private message?
The way the etiquette of these things are done is changing rapidly and I do think there is room for a debate on that change and if it is acceptable or not. What I think is wrong about this article is not the basic subject but the fact that it is based on a specific tragic event which happened less than a week ago.
Tweeting condolences may be done for a variety of reasons, some good, some less good but writing this article I think was done for one reason and it's not a very admirable one.
If I knew Amanda personally, celeb or not, I would send a card to her or call her as Twittering would seem very impersonal to me. In the case of death I would always go hand written, but thats just me personally.
If I sent her a cyber msg I would rather send her a private email rather than Twitter, Facebook or social-network msg her.
Doesn't that make her more than a little hypocritical?
Yes, I agree with her this time. She comes across as a nasty beatch, but I find it hard to get too angry about anything she says. Most of the time she only writes things to get a reaction, so she's little more than a troll.
I have posted condolences on Facebook but only when the person concerned has put the news in a status update as I feel by putting it up there they want people to comment and will get some comfort from it. One of my friends' father-in-law died a couple of weeks ago and she sent a private message round specifically asking us not to post on her or her husband's Facebook and everyone respected her wishes and sent condolences in other ways.
By their very nature that is what journalists are paid to do.
Is she writing to incite a reaction?? Of course she is. As all journalists are. That's what creates discussion and sells newspapers.
The gist of her sentiments is correct, although there is credence to those who question the timing of her article. But again, that's just a journalist playing the game.
Sometimes it doesn't matter what anyone says, or however they choose to convey their message, words will never be enough, but displaying sympathy, or indeed empathy in whichever way you choose to do it surely should not be condemned.:(
Just a tad, yes! She is only doing her job, and I doubt she believes most of what she writes. Even so, her job is effectively to spew poison and to hurt people, so I hope she's proud of herself.
I appreciate that but timing is all. The timing on this one doesn't feel right to me, it is not a particularly serious debate anyway but one that can cause offence by being so close to the event it is hooking the story on to. It's not exactly in the public interest to have this debate this week is it?