Provisional Licence no longer ID in my local council
roland rat
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During this week, the local council authority decided in its own mind, that from now on, a provisional licence is not a form of id, so burger
Today 7 customer with alcohol. I asked them for id, and low and behold, they bring out there provisional licence, I apologize, and profoundly explain, I cant accept this as id, any more, due to a change in the licencing
Dont know how many have been refused, but it is upwards of 50, and the complaints are coming in fast and furious, but what customers dont understand it has nothing to do with us, its the licencing authority who is at blame
Today is the 17 March, and its St Patrick Day, and alot of people like to celebrate by drinking, unfortunate they might not be able to do this, this weekend, and only knows how many customers are going to be refused the alcohol
Today 7 customer with alcohol. I asked them for id, and low and behold, they bring out there provisional licence, I apologize, and profoundly explain, I cant accept this as id, any more, due to a change in the licencing
Dont know how many have been refused, but it is upwards of 50, and the complaints are coming in fast and furious, but what customers dont understand it has nothing to do with us, its the licencing authority who is at blame
Today is the 17 March, and its St Patrick Day, and alot of people like to celebrate by drinking, unfortunate they might not be able to do this, this weekend, and only knows how many customers are going to be refused the alcohol
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A passport that if I recall is meant to be kept safe and not be carried around on one's person just in case they want a drink.
I'd love to know the reasoning behind this from the licensing authority and whether PASS accredited ID is also no longer an accepted form of ID.
PASS accredited ID has always been a joke anyway, nearly everywhere around here used to just claim they were fake for little or no reason. I've not seen anyone try to use one in ages.
Step away from the paranoia.
At least they could check that you hadn't borrowed, or stolen, it from someone older because they would just look at the photo and ... oh hang on, it doesn't have one.
If anyone is being paranoid, it's the licensing authorities and the Government that keeping introducing more and more draconian measures for age restricted items.
Why wasn't it flagged up well in advance ? or is it , as I suspect, a deliberate attempt by some clown at the council, to piss people off ?
Just don't shoot the messenger!
Give it another 5 years and a new National ID scheme will appear and, since young people will used to carrying ID, they will be all for it.
Plus some older people will also be used to carrying a Photo ID on the buses so they probably won't object either.
Next idea after Chip and PIN will be Chip and Fingerprint. No PIN to remember and more secure.
I don't know why the didn't just introduce a Photo National Insurance card and catch the 16 - 18 year olds whilst they are still at school and they can have their photo countersigned by a teacher.
It's just a pain for the poorest who can't afford either, or to go on holiday or to run a car.
Weren't the ID cards going to be basically the same price as a passport when they were suggested before?
Not originally, but as the likely costs spiralled out of control it was indeed said that the ID cards would cost around the same as passports.
It wasn't the idea of the ID card themselves most people had problems with, it was the proposals for the huge database behind it. Every piece of information about you on all public databases linked to it, and the fact that private companies were to be allowed access to it, and to share their databases with the ID card database too, that had most people opposed.
and we all know how well government databases are run and how secure they are!
Well yeah, that does seem the point of this thread. Maybe the council decided for whatever reason that people with a full license were more trustworthy? Or maybe someone suggested that provisional licenses were easier to fake or something. Trying to guess the motivations of local councils is not exactly an easy task though lol.
So it would seem the majority of the cost would have been for the database then.
Back in the day I used to have a fake NUS card. I made it myself. It never failed me once. Back then though pretty much anything was accepted as ID.
My brother used to use my birth certificate as ID lol.
A provisional can be got by anyone, but a full licence can't, you have to have gone in for a driving test and it confirms who you are!... well allegedly....;)
I didn't think a provisional was ever ok as a form of identity?....
But op.. if you have had that many you have had to refuse!, is it such a bad thing?.... just goes to show how many youngsters there are that are drinking!......
I am seeing more than ever, kids drinking. There certainly has been no reduction in anti social behaviour. All it seems to have achieved in doing is pi55ing your everday customer off.
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