No Exit Poll has been comissioned

puppetangelpuppetangel Posts: 2,892
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http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/sep/18/scottish-vote-no-exit-poll-democratic-deficit

Means we wont get to have any indication of what different groups voted, impact of class, the new 16-17 yr old vote etc. Disappointed in that, its a life changing vote and no one will be able to learn anything from it. Just because the BBC are scared of getting it wrong, its useful after the results are out.
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  • GibsonSGGibsonSG Posts: 23,681
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    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/sep/18/scottish-vote-no-exit-poll-democratic-deficit

    Means we wont get to have any indication of what different groups voted, impact of class, the new 16-17 yr old vote etc. Disappointed in that, its a life changing vote and no one will be able to learn anything from it. Just because the BBC are scared of getting it wrong, its useful after the results are out.

    It says "the BBC nor any other media outlet" which includes - ahem - the Guardian.
  • Phil_CoulthardPhil_Coulthard Posts: 2,843
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    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/sep/18/scottish-vote-no-exit-poll-democratic-deficit

    Means we wont get to have any indication of what different groups voted, impact of class, the new 16-17 yr old vote etc. Disappointed in that, its a life changing vote and no one will be able to learn anything from it. Just because the BBC are scared of getting it wrong, its useful after the results are out.

    I don't think anyone dare do one it's that close. If different organisations did them they would all be different
  • David_JamesDavid_James Posts: 144
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    Scanning through Twitter, there do seem to be exit polls being taken throughout the day.

    Apparently the most recent one, up until 6pm has NO on 57% and YES on 43%. I'd be quite happy with that result.
  • ElectraElectra Posts: 55,660
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    Scanning through Twitter, there do seem to be exit polls being taken throughout the day.

    Apparently the most recent one, up until 6pm has NO on 57% and YES on 43%. I'd be quite happy with that result.

    A lot of Yes voters will still be at work or on their way home & are yet to vote, whereas many No voters are of retirement age, so have had all day to do it.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 8,718
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    Electra wrote: »
    A lot of Yes voters will still be at work or on their way home & are yet to vote, whereas many No voters are of retirement age, so have had all day to do it.

    No stereotyping at all are you? :)
  • ElectraElectra Posts: 55,660
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    Jack1 wrote: »
    No stereotyping at all are you? :)

    No, I'm going off the demographic results from recent polls.
  • TassiumTassium Posts: 31,639
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    They do say that older people and women are more likely to vote No. Two groups that still have a tendency to be at home during the day.
  • AlbacomAlbacom Posts: 34,578
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    Electra wrote: »
    A lot of Yes voters will still be at work or on their way home & are yet to vote, whereas many No voters are of retirement age, so have had all day to do it.

    True, but how do you know that a lot of No voters aren't still at work too? 14% is a large gap though.
  • ElectraElectra Posts: 55,660
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    wizzywick wrote: »
    True, but how do you know that a lot of No voters are still at work too? 14% is a large gap though.

    Obviously there will still be No voters at work too but the demographics that make up the workforce have been polling Yes majority.

    Presumably these 'exit polls' will just give extra impetus for Yes voters to get out there & vote, while No voters might not bother because they think it's in the bag.
  • Stuart25Stuart25 Posts: 12,217
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    Electra wrote: »
    A lot of Yes voters will still be at work or on their way home & are yet to vote, whereas many No voters are of retirement age, so have had all day to do it.

    16/17 year olds are more likely to vote no, and will have been at school all day also.
  • ElectraElectra Posts: 55,660
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    Stuart25 wrote: »
    16/17 year olds are more likely to vote no, and will have been at school all day also.

    According to recent polls, the youngest age group is split about 50/50
  • television2004television2004 Posts: 2,317
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    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/sep/18/scottish-vote-no-exit-poll-democratic-deficit

    Means we wont get to have any indication of what different groups voted, impact of class, the new 16-17 yr old vote etc. Disappointed in that, its a life changing vote and no one will be able to learn anything from it. Just because the BBC are scared of getting it wrong, its useful after the results are out.


    Not so!
    The BBC and other UK broadcasters have been banned from conducting exit polls or reporting of any disturbances at polling stations before 10pm tonight.
    Salmond got Cameron to agree with this.
    On the BBC 6 O Clock news S. Rayworth confirmed this at the start of the news
  • puppetangelpuppetangel Posts: 2,892
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    I really wanted the demography information the morning after to see who wanted out of the UK most and who listened to all the economic advice.

    In a way it would be good for policy making too in Westminster if the vote is NO, in order to know deal with their concerns.
  • puppetangelpuppetangel Posts: 2,892
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    Not so!
    The BBC and other UK broadcasters have been banned from conducting exit polls or reporting of any disturbances at polling stations before 10pm tonight.
    Salmond got Cameron to agree with this.
    On the BBC 6 O Clock news S. Rayworth confirmed this at the start of the news

    Just watching the news back, they said they are banned from reporting not conducting?
  • television2004television2004 Posts: 2,317
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    Electra wrote: »
    A lot of Yes voters will still be at work or on their way home & are yet to vote, whereas many No voters are of retirement age, so have had all day to do it.

    I would have thought that most of the yes voters in Glasgow may not have jobs and blame Westminter for this so they may have already voted!
  • television2004television2004 Posts: 2,317
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    Going to go watch this now on the iplayer now thanks....how can he ban them doing the polls, sure you cant report before 10pm but there is nothing in the scottish referendum act about conducting exit polls?

    Please report back.
    Clearly somone did not want information published as to what was going on at Polling Stations.
  • EurostarEurostar Posts: 78,519
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    One thing I'd warn about referendums is that they are notoriously difficult to predict. Ireland has had loads of them because of our Constitution and there have been quite a few "shock" results that left everyone, including the bookies, completely wrong footed.

    For this reason, I haven't the slightest clue what will happen tonight (and even though the polls have the No side ahead, it's only by a desperately close margin relatively speaking).
  • Phil_CoulthardPhil_Coulthard Posts: 2,843
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    I would have thought that most of the yes voters in Glasgow may not have jobs and blame Westminter for this so they may have already voted!

    You've got to break down the national demographic. Glasgow has 500k people living with in their city. How many will have babies or children who won't be able to go to school so their parents can't go out to vote until they're other half is back from work, etc, etc.
  • television2004television2004 Posts: 2,317
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    Just watching the news back, they said they are banned from reporting not conducting?

    This came up several weeks ago they are banned from carrying out any exit polls, and reporting what was going on at Polling Stations.
    This will be the new norm for an independent Scotland. Censorship!
  • LostFoolLostFool Posts: 90,648
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    I would have thought that most of the yes voters in Glasgow may not have jobs and blame Westminter for this so they may have already voted!

    Then again, I doubt most of the students have got around to it yet. They always leave things to the last minute and if you remember 2010 there were queues outside polling station (or "places") at 10pm. Things could get nasty if they close the doors at 10 sharp.

    You can't beat a good stereotype. ;-)
  • puppetangelpuppetangel Posts: 2,892
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    Please report back.
    Clearly somone did not want information published as to what was going on at Polling Stations.

    I heard it back twice, the first 12 mins before she hands over to other news...no mention of exit polls, or any ban by salmond, she just says " the polls close at 10pm and strict rule mean until then, the bbc and other broadcasters are not allowed to report details of campaigning"
  • ElectraElectra Posts: 55,660
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    I heard it back twice, the first 12 mins before she hands over to other news...no mention of exit polls, or any ban by salmond, she just says " the polls close at 10pm and strict rule mean until then, the bbc and other broadcasters are not allowed to report details of campaigning"

    Isn't it so they can't influence voting on the day?
  • Phil_CoulthardPhil_Coulthard Posts: 2,843
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    I heard it back twice, the first 12 mins before she hands over to other news...no mention of exit polls, or any ban by salmond, she just says " the polls close at 10pm and strict rule mean until then, the bbc and other broadcasters are not allowed to report details of campaigning"

    I think they had the same rule for the Euros a few months ago
  • television2004television2004 Posts: 2,317
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    I heard it back twice, the first 12 mins before she hands over to other news...no mention of exit polls, or any ban by salmond, she just says " the polls close at 10pm and strict rule mean until then, the bbc and other broadcasters are not allowed to report details of campaigning"

    This was in the agreement 2 years ago. Not just on the BBC 6 o Clock news tonight. The original poster was blaming wrongly the BBC.
  • AnnsyreAnnsyre Posts: 109,504
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    Stuart25 wrote: »
    16/17 year olds are more likely to vote no, and will have been at school all day also.

    Don't schools close on election day and turn into polling stations?
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