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Hipster pop ?? dominating the singles chart
Scratchy7929
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Hipster pop - possibly a new name emerging from 'part of' the dubiuosly named / often confussing Indie Pop tag / genre? / grouping of artists
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101431254
http://www.npr.org/2011/11/16/142387490/the-hipsterfication-of-america
Possible genre origins
Indie pop - WTF that really means nobody really knows
Nu rave / indietronica / Wonky pop (defunct) / witch house (defunct) / folktronica - La Roux, Little Boots, !!!, Klaxons, MGMT, LCD Soundsystem, Panic at the Disco, Frankmusic, Alphabeat / Grimes, Purity Ring etc
Hipster hop http://www.thefourohfive.com/news/article/the-rise-of-hipster-hop https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hipster_hop - M.I.A., Kanye West, Azealia Banks.
Other earlier genres that have influenced hipster pop :-
Early hip hop
Synth pop / New wave / post-punk - Kate Bush, a Flock of Seagulls, OMD, Soft Cell etc
College rock (indie radio format) - Peter Gabriel, REM, The Cure, The Smiths etc
Britpop / post-Britpop - The La's, James etc / Travis, Coldplay etc
Modern Rock (radio format) - Yeah yeah yeahs, Arctic Monkeys etc.
Adult Alternative / Trip hop - St Vincent, Beck, Tori Amos / Bjork, Gorillaz, Hooverphonic, Stereolab etc
Record Labels
Neon Gold(now a subsidary of Atlantic), 679 [Warner (Atlantic) - started by former XL employee Nick Worthington], XL /4AD etc.- Beggars Group, most hipster pop artists signed to a Major label (or sub label).
Indie Rock seems to be a genre that has been cast aside to the past as well by the BPI.The mass of artists grouped under Indie are now grouped under Contempory Rock - which is almost as confussing as the Indie tag itself.
Yes you may dismiss this tag but isn't 'Twee pop' used commonly these days for a certain number of, so called, Indie pop artists.When it started out as an effectionate insult
Jay-Z seems to support the Hipster-hop side of this, although may not support the name of course http://theboombox.com/jay-z-wants-hip-hop-to-be-more-like-indie-rock/
If you don't like the tag Hipster pop, to this grouping of similar sounding artists, who are disconnected from the originally called Indie, what you call it yourself, otherwise ????
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101431254
http://www.npr.org/2011/11/16/142387490/the-hipsterfication-of-america
Possible genre origins
Indie pop - WTF that really means nobody really knows
Nu rave / indietronica / Wonky pop (defunct) / witch house (defunct) / folktronica - La Roux, Little Boots, !!!, Klaxons, MGMT, LCD Soundsystem, Panic at the Disco, Frankmusic, Alphabeat / Grimes, Purity Ring etc
Hipster hop http://www.thefourohfive.com/news/article/the-rise-of-hipster-hop https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hipster_hop - M.I.A., Kanye West, Azealia Banks.
Other earlier genres that have influenced hipster pop :-
Early hip hop
Synth pop / New wave / post-punk - Kate Bush, a Flock of Seagulls, OMD, Soft Cell etc
College rock (indie radio format) - Peter Gabriel, REM, The Cure, The Smiths etc
Britpop / post-Britpop - The La's, James etc / Travis, Coldplay etc
Modern Rock (radio format) - Yeah yeah yeahs, Arctic Monkeys etc.
Adult Alternative / Trip hop - St Vincent, Beck, Tori Amos / Bjork, Gorillaz, Hooverphonic, Stereolab etc
Record Labels
Neon Gold(now a subsidary of Atlantic), 679 [Warner (Atlantic) - started by former XL employee Nick Worthington], XL /4AD etc.- Beggars Group, most hipster pop artists signed to a Major label (or sub label).
Indie Rock seems to be a genre that has been cast aside to the past as well by the BPI.The mass of artists grouped under Indie are now grouped under Contempory Rock - which is almost as confussing as the Indie tag itself.
Yes you may dismiss this tag but isn't 'Twee pop' used commonly these days for a certain number of, so called, Indie pop artists.When it started out as an effectionate insult
Jay-Z seems to support the Hipster-hop side of this, although may not support the name of course http://theboombox.com/jay-z-wants-hip-hop-to-be-more-like-indie-rock/
If you don't like the tag Hipster pop, to this grouping of similar sounding artists, who are disconnected from the originally called Indie, what you call it yourself, otherwise ????
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Foster the People, Fun, Owl City, Friendly Fires, Vampire Weekend, Mystery Jets, Passion Pit, Foals(post Holy Fire album), Disclosure, Gotye, Lana Del Rey, Lady Gaga (early on), Arcade Fire (post The Suburbs, definately post Reflektor), Of Monsters of Men, Imagine Dragons, Phoenix, Delphic, M83, Hot Chip, Florence & the Machine, Lorde, Foxes http://www.birminghampost.co.uk/whats-on/whats-on-news/foxes-plays-institute-library-birmingham-6539461 ,Lykki Li, Marina & the Diamonds, Chvrches, HAIM, London Grammar, AWOLNation, The 1975.
Guilty pleasures? - Sam Smith, John Newman, Banks, Katy Perry, Lily Allen, Robbie Williams(early solo)
NME groups https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NME%27s_Cool_List
BBC 6 Music's Greatest Hits
http://open.spotify.com/user/bbcnowplaying6music/playlist/77NF6x0LO78meAEtSGUzuc
Also, I would hardly say dominating as alot of the bands you mention have only had one hit.
Finally most of those bands sound nothing alike and are you really classing Katy Perry as indie?????????
Yeah...they're good but they weren't the first ;-)
The US hipsters seem to be deserting the hey-folk bands, probably because the Lumineers got too popular with non-hipster. It's a shame when sounds get overplayed as there are some good bands that get lumped in with weaker ones / self-promoters. Although if they remove the hand claps and 'heys' and quieten down the banjo or tambourine then they could pass for alternative acts.
Katy Perry is under 'Guilty pleasures'. I'm not sure she's replaced Girls Aloud in the nation's hipsters' hearts due to her shouting, but her songs are so catchy. Maybe Rihanna?
Also The Arcade Fire have nothing to do with folk...
I see your words and the way you've structured them together to form sentences - yet none of it makes sense.
I didn't say they were a folk band, but that they influenced the current crop of bands who use a similar style of singing, write songs with big anthemic choruses, and play acoustic instruments. I can't think of another recent hipster band that has had a greater influence on the "mainstream indie" bands that are currently successful.
The word or term 'hipster' is one of them stupid words of the moment - that's why you end up with dumb threads like this.
According to some of the shit written in this thread the most 'hipster' band appear to be The Byrds .
I quite like The Byrds
I'm just not sure I understand the logic of the OP or its point. I'm still searching for that.
Sorry if this is me being a hopeless Lana Del Rey fanboy as per usual, but I liked how she quoted Allan Ginsberg's famous poem Howl in her last video Tropico, which contains that lovely that line she purrs "Angel Headed Hipsters." At least she understood where all these internet "hipsters" are probably nicking the term from.
Jesus wept.
But there definately seems to be a recognision by the music media in general, that there has been a big shift in the 'so called' indie area of music.It is at least significant that the BPI no longer categorises Indie Rock in it's Brit Awards.This area of music has definately seen a shift towards appealing to a wider audience.The more commercially successful going for a more 'Arena Rock' type of sound.The newer bands generally who are being promoted in some shape or form under the Major Label umbrella - most Indie groups (most music groups) these days sign a publishing deal (at least) with a subdivision of a Major Label - seem to be going for a more 'pop' oriented sound i.e. Hipster pop
Many of you above have mentioned that you music should not categories or put into genres.How many of you who say that - on first instinct - listen to music put under the 'Indie' classification.It definately seems to draw people into a certain direction, when the demarcification lines between the pop end of indie & pop itself have become very blurred indead.In this way it has become a 'marketing' term alone.
But hipsters don't recognise the term hipster as cultural classification
Just look at this chart below.Can't remember when so many 'so called' indie artists in there for a long time.
I am trying hard to make sense of this indie / hipster thing that is going on myself
http://www.officialcharts.com/
Well I don't really have a clue what the hell your talking about when you throw words like indie and hipster about, but I did look at that chart - got as far as the top 50 anyway and saw maybe 3 acts that some people might call indie.
Get everything that has gone before and retrofit it to the word 'hipster'.
Sounds like a word some music journalist has come up with to make out that they have created some brand new thing.
Wasn't that former Creation Records boss Alan McGee re Coldplay?
Noel's now all chummy with Chris Martin.