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Old 03-08-2014, 22:00
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I can understand how someone could be confused into thinking they were getting fibre to the premises, but in terms of speed, FTTC is fast compared to an average ADSL connection, so its hard to understand why they would comment that it isn't, unless their usage pattern didn't require the faster speeds that FTTC/FTTP provides in the first place. Your average joe doing a bit of web browsing, streaming and mail on a decent ADSL connection wouldn't see any benefit in FTTC or FTTP.
I'm talking about people who live a bit further away from the cabinet. They see Virgin Media advertising 120Mb and they are only getting 12Mb on FTTC but both are being advertised as "fibre broadband".
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Old 03-08-2014, 23:44
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I'm talking about people who live a bit further away from the cabinet. They see Virgin Media advertising 120Mb and they are only getting 12Mb on FTTC but both are being advertised as "fibre broadband".
To be getting 12Mb, they must be a very long way from the cab, probably getting on for 2 kilometres.
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Old 03-08-2014, 23:50
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Not really, calling it fibre is misleading, as many people on FTTC connections have slower connection speeds than many others on ADSL2 etc. Best to call it what it is, FTTC (and quicker to type, too!).
It's still a fibre connection in a way though. The data is still travelling through a fibre cable once it's past the cabinet, and coming back to the cabinet. It isn't a pure fibre connection though.
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Old 04-08-2014, 08:01
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To be getting 12Mb, they must be a very long way from the cab, probably getting on for 2 kilometres.
You're missing my point a bit! I'm not talking about one specific person I've spoken to, it was just a made up example. But a lot of people have said that to me when they've been getting sub 25Mb speed. Lots of people are that far away from the cabinet.

It's still a fibre connection in a way though. The data is still travelling through a fibre cable once it's past the cabinet, and coming back to the cabinet. It isn't a pure fibre connection though.
I'm not sure what you mean here when you say past the cabinet. Anything after the cabinet is copper on FTTC.
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Old 04-08-2014, 10:32
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You're missing my point a bit! I'm not talking about one specific person I've spoken to, it was just a made up example. But a lot of people have said that to me when they've been getting sub 25Mb speed. Lots of people are that far away from the cabinet.



I'm not sure what you mean here when you say past the cabinet. Anything after the cabinet is copper on FTTC.
I meant when the data is being sent out. After it passes the cabinet on its way out, or leaves the cabinet, it then travels through a fibre cable. On its way back, it travels through a fibre cable until it reaches the cabinet. It then travels the last bit of the journey over copper. I should have made it clearer.
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Old 04-08-2014, 11:33
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I meant when the data is being sent out. After it passes the cabinet on its way out, or leaves the cabinet, it then travels through a fibre cable. On its way back, it travels through a fibre cable until it reaches the cabinet. It then travels the last bit of the journey over copper. I should have made it clearer.
The links between the copper cabinet and the fibre cabinet are copper, I think you probably know that but I just wanted to clarify.
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Old 04-08-2014, 13:45
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I meant when the data is being sent out. After it passes the cabinet on its way out, or leaves the cabinet, it then travels through a fibre cable. On its way back, it travels through a fibre cable until it reaches the cabinet. It then travels the last bit of the journey over copper. I should have made it clearer.
I still think calling FTTC 'fibre' is misleading but I can see why people do it so it's no biggie.

ADSL/+ is fibre to the exchange, then copper between the exchange and home.

FTTC is fibre to the exchange and cabinet, then copper between the cabinet and home.

The main difference with FTTC is that there is usually less copper involved than before, so speeds can usually (not always) be higher.

If I had my way I'd call ADSL CTTE (copper to the exchange) and FTTC would be CTTC (copper to the cabinet). Only FTTP would be fibre, and perhaps that would encourage Openreach/BT to get their fingers out and actually create a national FTTP network!
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Old 04-08-2014, 14:04
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I still think calling FTTC 'fibre' is misleading but I can see why people do it so it's no biggie.

ADSL/+ is fibre to the exchange, then copper between the exchange and home.

FTTC is fibre to the exchange and cabinet, then copper between the cabinet and home.

The main difference with FTTC is that there is usually less copper involved than before, so speeds can usually (not always) be higher.

If I had my way I'd call ADSL CTTE (copper to the exchange) and FTTC would be CTTC (copper to the cabinet). Only FTTP would be fibre, and perhaps that would encourage Openreach/BT to get their fingers out and actually create a national FTTP network!
It would be great if this nation had pure fibre connections. Hopefully in the future this will happen.
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Old 04-08-2014, 14:42
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It would be great if this nation had pure fibre connections. Hopefully in the future this will happen.
There are plenty of people on BT's FTTP network you know, it does exist!
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Old 04-08-2014, 15:51
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There are plenty of people on BT's FTTP network you know, it does exist!
I meant it would be great if this nation had all FTTP connections instead of some being FTTP and others FTTC.
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