Options

One or two loose ends...

gshawgshaw Posts: 144
Forum Member
The finale was very cleverly done and makes sense in the most part but there are one or two things I need to try and figure out (apart from the stuff we know we don't know... yet ;) )

- right at the start when Rory is with the (dead) Amy this is just after the Doctor was put in the Pandorica... what actually sets off getting the Doctor there coming back from the future with the funny hat on?

Everything then happens from this point with Rory using the screwdriver to set the Doctor free, sort Amy etc but we don't find out just *how* the Doctor manages to re-appear in the first place?

- the other one is probably an easy fix but...
  • we get to 2000 odd years later, in the kinda parallel world where Earth is about to be erased as the calm eye of the storm is finally getting the erasure treatment
  • which works out conveniently around the time the Tardis was going to explode that the alliance tried to stop happening but it kinda happened anyway in a roundabout way, or actually thinking about it did happen on that day as it's where the external force placed it during the last ep?
  • so some clever jumping around with the Vortex manipulator and Doctor rides Pandorica into the heart of the storm et voila everything back
  • but the Tardis still exploded? So even if Amy used the power of memories to bring the Doctor back through the crack, as he still looks to exist in some form would it be that strong to bring the Tardis as well?

- the other odd one is how when she does imagine him back he comes dressed for the wedding. He also doesn't seem too surprised by all of this, considering how down he was about 5 minutes before? What with the blue book does River somehow have more of a role in what happens than first appears???

Comments

  • Options
    GogfumbleGogfumble Posts: 22,155
    Forum Member
    ✭✭✭
    It might be one of those increasingly annoying phrases but Wibbly, wobbly, timey, wimey.

    Rory, after he had been guarding the the Pandorica told the Doctor what he told him 2000 years ago when he had a dead Amy in his arms. From this, the doctor was able to go back 2000 years using the vortex manipulator to tell Rory what Rory has just told him.

    The Doctor managed to escape the Pandorica i as future released doc came back and told Rory to release him from the Pandorica.

    :D
  • Options
    CorwinCorwin Posts: 16,607
    Forum Member
    ✭✭
    gshaw wrote: »
    - the other odd one is how when she does imagine him back he comes dressed for the wedding. He also doesn't seem too surprised by all of this, considering how down he was about 5 minutes before? What with the blue book does River somehow have more of a role in what happens than first appears???

    Of course the Doctor wasn't surprised.

    You did hear the story he told her when she was seven didn't you?

    The one he reminded her of in the Forest?

    How he stole (sorry Borrowed) the Old / New and very Blue Tardis.
  • Options
    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 163
    Forum Member
    gshaw wrote: »
    The finale was very cleverly done and makes sense in the most part but there are one or two things I need to try and figure out (apart from the stuff we know we don't know... yet ;) )

    - right at the start when Rory is with the (dead) Amy this is just after the Doctor was put in the Pandorica... what actually sets off getting the Doctor there coming back from the future with the funny hat on?

    Everything then happens from this point with Rory using the screwdriver to set the Doctor free, sort Amy etc but we don't find out just *how* the Doctor manages to re-appear in the first place?

    Wibbly wobbly timey wimey. It's like in The Lodger. The Doctor reads the note from Amy even though she hasn't placed it there yet. She can't place it there until he sorts out the TARDIS, and he can't do that until she places it there.
    It's time travel, I'm afraid. :D
    [*] but the Tardis still exploded? So even if Amy used the power of memories to bring the Doctor back through the crack, as he still looks to exist in some form would it be that strong to bring the Tardis as well?
    [/LIST]

    She remembered him and the TARDIS and all of it, so that would bring it all back. "If it can be remembered, it can come back."
    - the other odd one is how when she does imagine him back he comes dressed for the wedding. He also doesn't seem too surprised by all of this, considering how down he was about 5 minutes before? What with the blue book does River somehow have more of a role in what happens than first appears???

    That's why he told her to remember, in the hope that she would.
  • Options
    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 163
    Forum Member

    Thanks. I couldn't think of how to explain it. :D

    It happened in Forest of the Dead, too.
  • Options
    bazellisbazellis Posts: 5,405
    Forum Member
    Where did the young Amelia disappear to in the museum, just after the 2nd doctor appeared?
  • Options
    mikkyhmikkyh Posts: 1,030
    Forum Member
    ✭✭✭
    bazellis wrote: »
    Where did the young Amelia disappear to in the museum, just after the 2nd doctor appeared?

    She was erased completely because of reality ending. The only reason Amy, the Doctor, River Song, Rory remained was because they were "anomolies".
  • Options
    CorwinCorwin Posts: 16,607
    Forum Member
    ✭✭
    bazellis wrote: »
    Where did the young Amelia disappear to in the museum, just after the 2nd doctor appeared?

    Time was unravelling, probably everyone left in the world had gone by that point.

    How to you think young Amelia was left in the museum, her Aunt must have dispeared before starting a search for her.
  • Options
    Matt DMatt D Posts: 13,153
    Forum Member
    ✭✭
    bazellis wrote: »
    Where did the young Amelia disappear to in the museum, just after the 2nd doctor appeared?

    She was erased from history. This was explained in the episode.
  • Options
    TemporalParadoxTemporalParadox Posts: 340
    Forum Member
    Corwin wrote: »
    Of course the Doctor wasn't surprised.

    You did hear the story he told her when she was seven didn't you?

    The one he reminded her of in the Forest?

    How he stole (sorry Borrowed) the Old / New and very Blue Tardis.

    I think the "Something old, something new, something borrowed, something blue" line refers to the Doctor being old, but its a new incarnation (and new series/ era) and the TARDIS being "borrowed" and of course blue.
  • Options
    bazellisbazellis Posts: 5,405
    Forum Member
    Will Amy remember all the adventures she's been on with The Doctor - or are all the previous episodes now never to have taken place??
  • Options
    mikkyhmikkyh Posts: 1,030
    Forum Member
    ✭✭✭
    bazellis wrote: »
    Will Amy remember all the adventures she's been on with The Doctor - or are all the previous episodes now never to have taken place??

    Yes. :)
  • Options
    gshawgshaw Posts: 144
    Forum Member
    Corwin wrote: »
    Of course the Doctor wasn't surprised.

    You did hear the story he told her when she was seven didn't you?

    The one he reminded her of in the Forest?

    How he stole (sorry Borrowed) the Old / New and very Blue Tardis.

    Ahh now this is clever, he saves himself by going back to the previous events and putting the clues in, thinking in reverse time so he tells her to remember the story before he's actually gone and told it to her as his timeline is going backwards as he goes into the void... genius :D

    Just have to accept the paradox theory and then it's all tied up :cool:
Sign In or Register to comment.