BBC News "Sports Centre"

PrinceOfDenmark · 01/04/15 - 21:31

Why does BBC News make a thing of handing over to the "BBC Sports Centre" during bulletins?

There are a few oddities for me...

Firstly it is extremely incongruent - the weird bright orange and other vivid colours don't fit with the BBC News branding at all, so it jars when they do the hand-over.

Secondly, the presenters are awful compared to the BBC News presenter that hands over to them, so it comes across as really amateurish.

And thirdly, why do they want to go out of their way to give a distinct impression of having a specialist sports centre when they don't do that for politics, science, the arts, etc?

technologist · 01/04/15 - 21:33

Because it is the home of BBC sport in Dock house Salford .....
And so not much to do with BBC news

Guest82722 · 01/04/15 - 21:35

PrinceOfDenmark wrote: »

Why does BBC News make a thing of handing over to the "BBC Sports Centre" during bulletins?

There are a few oddities for me...

Firstly it is extremely incongruent - the weird bright orange and other vivid colours don't fit with the BBC News branding at all, so it jars when they do the hand-over.

Secondly, the presenters are awful compared to the BBC News presenter that hands over to them, so it comes across as really amateurish.

And thirdly, why do they want to go out of their way to give a distinct impression of having a specialist sports centre when they don't do that for politics, science, the arts, etc?

Well, it is a 'specialist sports centre' in the sense it is in Salford.

I have to agree that about 50% of the numerous presenters are below par.

They are not useless- but most would be decent regional sports presenters, Network presenters however should be a cut above 'regional' though.

Aaron_Scotland · 01/04/15 - 21:36

BBC Scotland News is blue branding, BBC News is Red, Sport is Yellow, I dont see the issue? If anything its better to have separate branding.

Rich Tea. · 01/04/15 - 21:40

PrinceOfDenmark wrote: »

Why does BBC News make a thing of handing over to the "BBC Sports Centre" during bulletins?

There are a few oddities for me...

Firstly it is extremely incongruent - the weird bright orange and other vivid colours don't fit with the BBC News branding at all, so it jars when they do the hand-over.

Secondly, the presenters are awful compared to the BBC News presenter that hands over to them, so it comes across as really amateurish.

And thirdly, why do they want to go out of their way to give a distinct impression of having a specialist sports centre when they don't do that for politics, science, the arts, etc?

The one thing I have noticed over recent times is that you seem to have a very large rotation of faces doing these bulletins and it seems like new faces appear every week, some never to be seen again. It gives the strong impression of being used as a testing ground for presenters to try out and almost "audition" at times. Most have no gravitas whatsoever except for the ability to read an autocue on time. A media training centre is how it comes over to me as a viewer.

SteveBentley · 01/04/15 - 23:11

Yes, they absolutely don't have a specialist politics operation at Millbank.

scoobiesnacks · 02/04/15 - 00:59

They probably employ every Sports newscaster in North West England. I doubt that is a big pond to fish from. They lost loads of good staff when they moved up North, so they have had to build from scratch.

A month or 2 ago they advertised for new staff and freelancers. That is who you are seeing I think.

They also do World Service sports from that studio.

Westy2 · 02/04/15 - 05:00

scoobiesnacks wrote: »

They probably employ every Sports newscaster in North West England. I doubt that is a big pond to fish from. They lost loads of good staff when they moved up North, so they have had to build from scratch.

A month or 2 ago they advertised for new staff and freelancers. That is who you are seeing I think.

They also do World Service sports from that studio.

They occasionally use Dan Pallett from Midlands Today, so its not all North West staff!

Object Z · 02/04/15 - 07:32

technologist wrote: »

Because it is the home of BBC sport in Dock house Salford .....
And so not much to do with BBC news

Quay House.;-)

SteveBentley · 02/04/15 - 07:38

The Sports Centre studio is a necessity really, now that they have sensibly moved the Sports News team into the Sports department rather then news and (perhaps less sensibly) moved it to Salford.

And it does look good on air, it reminds me of the classic Grandstand sets in some ways.

ftv · 02/04/15 - 08:51

I agree some of the presenters are of local radio standard or below. Why do they never introduce them properly - it's always over to Olly, Lizzie, Cat etc. How about a caption with their name on ?

Diamond Head · 02/04/15 - 08:56

Am I the only one with the absolute hots for Karthi Gnanasegaram?

PhilH36 · 02/04/15 - 09:14

Who was the lady doing the sports news last night? Never seen her before.

PrinceOfDenmark · 02/04/15 - 09:20

SteveBentley wrote: »

Yes, they absolutely don't have a specialist politics operation at Millbank.

That's not what I said is it?

davelovesleeds · 02/04/15 - 09:38

Diamond Head wrote: »

Am I the only one with the absolute hots for Karthi Gnanasegaram?

Oh no. Far from it.

Mark C · 02/04/15 - 10:20

Diamond Head wrote: »

Am I the only one with the absolute hots for Karthi Gnanasegaram?

No, but a high scoring name in Scrabble

JordyD · 02/04/15 - 12:49

At a time when cost saving is an issue, I see the BBC would rather light up and operate two studios instead of one.

testcard · 02/04/15 - 13:19

Diamond Head wrote: »

Am I the only one with the absolute hots for Karthi Gnanasegaram?

Not for me. Far too many teeth.

Steve Williams · 02/04/15 - 13:21

JordyD wrote: »

At a time when cost saving is an issue, I see the BBC would rather light up and operate two studios instead of one.

The other option, of course, being to run a sports operation in London as well as the one in Salford.

radiobloke2004 · 02/04/15 - 14:42

JordyD wrote: »

At a time when cost saving is an issue, I see the BBC would rather light up and operate two studios instead of one.

Indeed. Makes sense. Space is at a premium in London at BH (where it also costs more per head to operate), so by having their sports operation at Salford, where BBC Sport is based, saves money as it costs less per member of staff to run a decent sports operation.

Guest82722 · 02/04/15 - 14:55

radiobloke2004 wrote: »

Indeed. Makes sense. Space is at a premium in London at BH (where it also costs more per head to operate), so by having their sports operation at Salford, where BBC Sport is based, saves money as it costs less per member of staff to run a decent sports operation.

But on some days it does look like a Poundland operation- so you get what you pay for.

Karthi G, Lizzy Greenwood-Hughes, Ollie Foster, Mike Bushill, and Ore (don't know his surname!) are very good (all ex-London presenters) The others just don't have 'screen presence' I don't think you can teach that. You've either got it, or you haven't.

EuanMebabe · 02/04/15 - 15:00

There are a handful of good presenters in the BBC Sport Centre - Sally Nugent, Francis Collings, Karthi Ghanasegarem among them, but the rest are pants and shouldn't be on network television until they're good enough. Olly Foster and his bored, phlegmy delivery needs to try harder. He should also clear his throat before broadcasting. I cannot stand hearing his phlegm rattling around when he breathes. Damian Johnson sounds like he's emulating Motty at times. Lizzie Greenwood-Hughes looks like she's come in from blackberry picking, with her hair in a mess! And finally that dreadful Scottish woman with blonde hair. Even the way she pronounces Berahino winds me right up. That said, even the worst BBC Sports presenter is better than the bimbos on Sky Sports News. Good day, sir.

PrinceOfDenmark · 30/04/15 - 13:40

They really ought to sort this shower out. On the News at One today they handed over to the sports studio to a bloke without sound, who continued to talk. Then once they got the sound faded in, a bloke appeared behind him waving a book at the camera and laughing.

Ash_M1 · 30/04/15 - 14:36

inothernews wrote: »

But on some days it does look like a Poundland operation- so you get what you pay for.

Karthi G, Lizzy Greenwood-Hughes, Ollie Foster, Mike Bushill, and Ore (don't know his surname!) are very good (all ex-London presenters) The others just don't have 'screen presence' I don't think you can teach that. You've either got it, or you haven't.

It's Ore Odudu. Nice guy he is too.

JordyD · 30/04/15 - 14:42

Ash_M1 wrote: »

It's Ore Odudu. Nice guy he is too.

Odudu? Adoodoo?:D

It's actually Oduba.

Ash_M1 · 30/04/15 - 14:47

JordyD wrote: »

Odudu? Adoodoo?:D

It's actually Oduba.

I'm laughing...only because I was so confident it was Odudu.:D That's how I heard it. Perhaps BBC Newscasters need to work on their diction to make it clear who they are passing to.

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