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    TheTruth1983TheTruth1983 Posts: 13,462
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    It might be relatively resource intensive for a Linux distribution but I've found KDE distributions to be fine when compared with their Vista/Win 7 counterparts.



    That distribution is on my list to try out this year and it looks promising (see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdC-8R7mjzk http://mylinuxexplore.blogspot.co.uk/2014/11/ubuntu-mate-1410-review-for-gnome-2.html). If it's stable and survives then I hope it can because an officially recognised Ubuntu flavour.

    It's not hard to be light when compared to Vista :p

    I make all my comparisons to XP, the best windows release (probably) ever.
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    savysavy Posts: 66
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    Hello Linux users,
    Any recommendations for putting an old Samsung NC 10 netbook onto a Linux OS rather than the current Windows XP. It only has 1 GB of Ram. I am new to Linux, so am looking something straightforward to install and use. I only want to be able to use the netbook for basics, and the internet. Thanks in advance.
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    1saintly1saintly Posts: 4,197
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    The flavour of the month seems to be
    http://elementaryos.org/
    and
    http://lxle.net/
    Havent used them myself.

    You will however have to boot and load it from a usb stick, unless you have a external cd\dvd drive?
    not sure if yours is the same, but quick search found this...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYvHu0BTSf4
    http://elementaryos.org/docs/user-guide/creating-an-install-disk

    Also i would recommend using it wired to the internet whilst you install any linux OS, then it will get all updates etc, then you can try wirless after its installed.
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    emptyboxemptybox Posts: 13,917
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    1saintly wrote: »
    The flavour of the month seems to be
    http://elementaryos.org/
    and
    http://lxle.net/
    Havent used them myself.

    You will however have to boot and load it from a usb stick, unless you have a external cd\dvd drive?
    not sure if yours is the same, but quick search found this...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYvHu0BTSf4
    http://elementaryos.org/docs/user-guide/creating-an-install-disk

    Also i would recommend using it wired to the internet whilst you install any linux OS, then it will get all updates etc, then you can try wirless after its installed.


    Not sure what you mean by "flavour of the month"?
    ElementaryOS Luna has been out for a couple of years, and is based on Ubuntu 12.04.
    They've been promising a new version for ages.

    It's very simple and elegant and works great on lower spec machines (as does LXLE)
    I've got it on a P4 machine, with 2GB RAM, and it's very smooth and responsive.
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    Fried KickinFried Kickin Posts: 60,132
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    I use LXLE .. love it :)
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    TelevisionUserTelevisionUser Posts: 41,417
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    I use LXLE .. love it :)

    Yep, that's worth trying on Savy's old Samsung NC 10 netbook and Linux Lite is another option too.

    Links:

    http://lxle.net

    http://www.linuxliteos.com
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0
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    Esot-eric wrote: »
    If they keep going the way they have been KDE might even tempt me away from Cinnamon by the time Kubuntu 16.04 rolls around.

    Though I rate KDE as the best Linux desktop, I do use Cinnamon as my main desktop and will not be budging it. While KDE is incredibly powerful, Cinnamon is more streamlined and focussed imho, and overall much friendlier to use. In fact Linux Mint with Cinnamon is now the single longest time I've spent with a distro without wanting to swap. I am still curious to see the new KDE, and will no doubt replace my Kubuntu dual boot with it when it arrives.
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    1saintly1saintly Posts: 4,197
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    Kind of depends on you're definition of success.

    cant see it ever becoming mainstream, just like the desktop.
    Can't see anyone walking into carphone warehouse and picking one up, just like you dont walk into pc world and say ''i will take that ubuntu pc please''
    Hope im proven wrong on both points someday.
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    TelevisionUserTelevisionUser Posts: 41,417
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    Kal_El wrote: »
    Though I rate KDE as the best Linux desktop, I do use Cinnamon as my main desktop and will not be budging it. While KDE is incredibly powerful, Cinnamon is more streamlined and focussed imho, and overall much friendlier to use. In fact Linux Mint with Cinnamon is now the single longest time I've spent with a distro without wanting to swap. I am still curious to see the new KDE, and will no doubt replace my Kubuntu dual boot with it when it arrives.

    Although I haven't done it for anyone, it's pretty straightforward to add Cinnamon to Ubuntu, for example, as we can see here: http://www.dedoimedo.com/images/computers_years/2012_1/ubuntu-cinnamon-desktop-1.jpg http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/ubuntu-cinnamon.html
    1saintly wrote: »
    Kind of depends on you're definition of success.

    cant see it ever becoming mainstream, just like the desktop.
    Can't see anyone walking into carphone warehouse and picking one up, just like you dont walk into pc world and say ''i will take that ubuntu pc please''
    Hope im proven wrong on both points someday.

    How well Canonical does in this respect depends on a number of factors such as phone price and specifications, phone availability and marketing and getting sufficient manufacturers on board. If they do things correctly, then I don't see why they can't end up with a market share in the same range as that of Windows Phone.
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    1saintly1saintly Posts: 4,197
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    After years of waiting, and speculation the project was dying.

    Xfce is geting a bit of a update.

    https://mail.xfce.org/pipermail/xfce4-dev/2015-February/031057.html

    Quote from distowatch,
    http://distrowatch.com/
    It has been over two years since the Xfce project released the most recent version of the middle-weight desktop environment. Xfce is popular among desktop users who like to strike a balance between features and performance and, in recent months, some have questioned whether Xfce might be losing momentum. Fans of the Xfce desktop will be happy to know that a new release, version 4.12, is in the works and should be released within the next month. In a mailing list post, Simon Steinbeib suggested the project set a firm launch date for 4.12. "We're writing to you proposing a concrete release date for 4.12 about a month from now, the weekend of February 28 and March 1. As we have discussed the status and progress of core components with many of you individually, we feel confident that the state of Xfce is good enough to polish some final edges and push more translations until then. We're suggesting this specific date partly for pragmatic reasons (as both of us have time that weekend to support the release process) and to have a goal in the not-too-far-away future so that we can focus on getting things done." End....
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    noise747noise747 Posts: 30,862
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    Never been a fan of Xfce, but I am glad to see it is getting a update.
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    TheTruth1983TheTruth1983 Posts: 13,462
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    1saintly wrote: »
    After years of waiting, and speculation the project was dying.

    Xfce is geting a bit of a update.

    https://mail.xfce.org/pipermail/xfce4-dev/2015-February/031057.html

    Quote from distowatch,
    http://distrowatch.com/
    It has been over two years since the Xfce project released the most recent version of the middle-weight desktop environment. Xfce is popular among desktop users who like to strike a balance between features and performance and, in recent months, some have questioned whether Xfce might be losing momentum. Fans of the Xfce desktop will be happy to know that a new release, version 4.12, is in the works and should be released within the next month. In a mailing list post, Simon Steinbeib suggested the project set a firm launch date for 4.12. "We're writing to you proposing a concrete release date for 4.12 about a month from now, the weekend of February 28 and March 1. As we have discussed the status and progress of core components with many of you individually, we feel confident that the state of Xfce is good enough to polish some final edges and push more translations until then. We're suggesting this specific date partly for pragmatic reasons (as both of us have time that weekend to support the release process) and to have a goal in the not-too-far-away future so that we can focus on getting things done." End....

    Bloody good news. Xfce has always been my favourite DE, would be a shame to see it die.

    In other news the weird and wonderful Bodhi has reached stable version 3.0.0

    http://www.webupd8.org/2015/02/bodhi-linux-300-available-for-download.html
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    TheTruth1983TheTruth1983 Posts: 13,462
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    I succumbed to my own curiosity today and ordered one of the Ubuntu phones :(
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    1saintly1saintly Posts: 4,197
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    skip to 37min
    http://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/77377/questions-for-elementary-os-las-352/

    Seems the devs of
    http://elementary.io/
    Have kicked up a debate in the Linux community.

    Seems they had a change on there download page.

    I get that most of the lesser known, if thats the right term? Do most of there distros as a hobby.
    Im aware that they put loads of time into it, and i can see both sides of the fence.

    Regardless of what the devs say, the site is still missleading, the download for free button is not obvious!
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    TelevisionUserTelevisionUser Posts: 41,417
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    1saintly wrote: »
    skip to 37min
    http://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/77377/questions-for-elementary-os-las-352/

    Seems the devs of
    http://elementary.io/
    Have kicked up a debate in the Linux community.

    Seems they had a change on there download page.

    I get that most of the lesser known, if thats the right term? Do most of there distros as a hobby.
    Im aware that they put loads of time into it, and i can see both sides of the fence.

    Regardless of what the devs say, the site is still missleading, the download for free button is not obvious!

    Yes, it is a difficult situation. Unless you're supported by Canonical, Blue Systems or another, then things are done voluntarily and that's all well and good but it doesn't pay the bills. In this case, I think they could perhaps do things differently and I might suggest a few things to them. I don't have an issue either with Zorin charging for 'everything included' versions of their OS with the no-frills basic OS being provided free.

    In my case, if I permanently install a distribution or have it on for a long time then the developers concerned will get a $$ contribution from me.
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    TheTruth1983TheTruth1983 Posts: 13,462
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    Wow, it seems Canonical have made creating a scope for the Ubuntu phone really easy

    http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/I-Have-Zero-Coding-Skills-and-I-Made-an-Ubuntu-Scope-474368.shtml
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    RobinOfLoxleyRobinOfLoxley Posts: 27,040
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    Are 'Scopes' something I need to get my brain to process and remember or can I safely forget about them now I have looked them up?
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    TelevisionUserTelevisionUser Posts: 41,417
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    The Ubuntu MATE Linux distribution is now an official Ubuntu flavor, joining the likes of Xubuntu, Kubuntu and Ubuntu Kylin. With two well received releases under its belt, Ubuntu MATE has garnered praise from users and reviewers alike over the past year or so thanks to a seamless blend of the latest Ubuntu base and the classic MATE desktop environment. Moves to make the distro an official Ubuntu flavor have been discussed for some time. Recently approved, the distro announced the news alongside its first beta in the Ubuntu 15.04 development cycle.
    http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/02/ubuntu-mate-is-now-an-official-ubuntu-flavor
    https://ubuntu-mate.org/blog/
    http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntumate


    Most pleased for the developers and hopefully there'll be more interest in this distribution now.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0
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    Very happy to see that. MATE was derided at first but has proved itself beyond any doubt now.
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    TelevisionUserTelevisionUser Posts: 41,417
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    ...and now for something completely new.

    One of the sites I check out to see what's new and upcoming in the world of Linux is distrohunt.

    A surprise came in the form of Chalet OS (yes, you read it correctly!). It's a Xubuntu respin using a custom modified whisker menu and gives a pretty good superficial impression of Win 10. It might help to bring a few converts over from fortress Redmond and that's no bad thing at all.

    Links:

    http://distrohunt.cupoflinux.com/articles.php?article_id=31

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pL9H7GZWeyo

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqicjjvLZaY
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    henm2henm2 Posts: 160
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    I tried Chalet OS booted live off a USB flash drive (using the multisystem boot system). Found it very buggy. You are better off with Xubuntu itself.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0
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    My current Mint adventure is coming to an end. Not for any dramatic reasons - it's working fine and dandy. I'm just ready for something new now. The Spring distros are shaping up really nicely, so this year, I'm delving in. Had a tiny update to my graphics card (nothing big at all but enough for me), so looking forward to seeing how it goes.

    I don't know how, but I managed to get USB booting working on both the laptop and my desktop. These haven't worked properly for many years, but after poking around in the BIOS menus I managed to find a couple of odd options that seem to have made them work. So, I decided to give Kubuntu 15.04 a proper try. Got to say, I absolutely love the new desktop. So refreshing and alive. It takes it's cues from KDE's past but has been properly tidied up, and it's considerably faster too. No lags or hangs, and this was with the open source Radeon driver too.

    Dying to get my hands on the new Ubuntu this year too, and hopefully a nice Gnome 3 distro again as well. All thrusters forward for me. In with the new this year!
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    RobinOfLoxleyRobinOfLoxley Posts: 27,040
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    You've done it now, but Plop Boot Manager gets even very old machines booting from USB and other options when there definitely are no hidden settings.

    http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanagers.html


    Uninstall used to be a little convoluted so read all the read-mes before installing and/or make an Image backup of MBR and boot partitions if you want to try on an old machine.
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    sandstonesandstone Posts: 1,207
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    Installed kubuntu 15.04 beta1 on my ssd today, lots of problems with my monitor layout and desktop settings.
    ended up copying over my kde configs from a spare drive i've been testing out plasma5 since alpha, don't know if something changed since the early alphas.

    gtk tray icons no longer work in plasma5, sigh.
    http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2014/06/where-are-my-systray-icons/
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