Oscar Pistorius Trial (Merged)
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Inspiration wrote: »I know it sounds petty but I'll ask anyway. If she's been forced into the toilet in fear and has gone in there to hide or just to escape Oscar for a period of time and perhaps locked herself in.. would she not have put the toilet seat down to sit on it? I think the prosecution believe she was stood up when shot which I get but if she's been in there due to a row, would she not instinctively have put the seat down?
Not if she had just got into the toilet and slammed the door if he was chasing her and she was trying to protect herself
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If she had put the toilet seat down however I suspect it would be important. Just playing advocate.
And we're in a new thread. See you tomorrow. I just hope there aren't any unexpected displays of photos. I really wish they'd warned about that today.
I will - she was on the side nearest the balcony, he was on the settee side, where the holster was found.
I've posted this theory, she grabs her jeans and phone and says she's leaving, he chases after her, throws her jeans out the window, grabs her phone, she turns and locks herself in the toilet. Makes sense, but only speculation.
I think he was terrifying and she was trying to talk to him through the door, to get him to calm down. That fits with her character, I think.
He got the bat and hammered the door, the panel the door and broke a bit off, he could see her. She was absolutely beside herself then, screaming for her life, stood up near the door and then he told her he was going for his gun and then he did and came back and shot her.
She was upright because she tried to talk him down, she was upright because she was at that point hysterical, and she died.
I think she fled into the bathroom and things escalated very quickly.
Not that we'll ever know for sure.
What a palaver, had to rescue this, hope it works:o
Starting a new thread…I just finished writing something, pressed submit reply and poof... it was all gone…it did not post on this thread or the previous one… i.e. bummer
Anyway .. if she ran in there to escape .. it's unlikely she'd sit down and make herself comfy .. when we're on alert .. we tend to stand.
Real pain.
You have to go back, copy, go to gd, get the new thread and paste.
I know I was wondering where my "quote" button had gone
Oh sandy I had just written a long reply to your post... no idea now what It was about and it has gone... I thought I had been thrown out!! thread finished..and my reply gone!
How annoying!!!! you write some really interesting posts y the way!!!:)
Nope..I tried that but it returned to some error page…guess my post is in limbo now… or purgatory !!
AJ, not sure what you are referring to. My doubt it comment was not about whether other messages could be brought up, but just that I doubted whether Nel had saved any particular ones for XX, as Roux had not brought them up himself, and if there was a smoking gun (oops) it is almost always in the defence's interests to address that in XIC rather than letting it go to XX.
Actually, now that I think about it…it wasn't that interesting after all… it's just all that effort going to waste is taxing !!
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Thanks for posting that because that was my first thought today when I heard him
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I don't have an I Phone personally.
I found that quite disingenuous. It seemed to be an attempt to discredit the a key witness for the prosecution, and this was a guy who heard the incident, screamed at his wife to get away from the balcony when he heard the shots (so genuinely protective as opposed to Oscar’s brand of ‘chivalrous’ protection), contacted security as he was getting dressed, and then went above and beyond the call of duty and set off to the house. He knew there was someone shooting a gun there (he thought there were about seven shots, I think) and that there was possible danger but he went anyway because he wanted to help if there were children involved. He also seemed like an intelligent man when he was in the witness box.
And there OP is, almost painting him as this bumbling, overwhelmed fool who was inept at saving Reeva, and f***ed off outside when Oscar was pleading for help.
This doesn’t damn OP as guilty, obviously, but it does reveal something fairly unpleasant about his character, I think.
This is from the last post on the old thread - I'll get the name and edit.
Barnaclehead12
I agree.
It's just more understanding of how OP will denigrate those who go against him, he was trying to denigrate a witness, but I honestly think that that sort of thing is just natural to him.
He blamed his friend TWICE while minimising his own parts in the gun incidents as well, and dismissed his ex as some sort of bunny boiler.
He even seemed to think that Darren Fresco was to blame for the shooting incident in the restaurant - handing him a loaded gun (which OP had asked to see) for not telling him it was loaded (which he said he had) even though OP PULLED THE TRIGGER, which had a safety included and must have been a deliberate act.
He said he'd been careless but it was Fresco who should shoulder the most blame.
Serious picture here, and he NEVER fails, he has hardly a sincere good word to say about anyone. It's all 'due', or they can take any blame, or they are crap.
Or in Reeva's case 'an Angel'.
He's really repugnant. All he had to say is it was good of Stipp to come over and try to help he'd have had a LOT of brownie points for me, but no, it's not IN him.
If that was the case then surely she wouldn't do the toilet - she would be too scared??