Unions attack BBC pay offer

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Broadcasting unions have slammed the BBC’s offer of up to 1.2% pay rise for rank-and-file staff as “out of step” with the public sector.

Bectu, the National Union of Journalists (NUJ) and Unite have been pushing for 2% since February but four months later, the BBC has proposed to pay all staff earning under £37,726 - around 70% of the workforce - an extra £475 a year. All staff above this threshold will face a pay freeze.

http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/5014992.article
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  • TheEngineerTheEngineer Posts: 7,788
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    More details here:

    http://www.bectu.org.uk/news/847
    The BBC was accused of being out-of-step with other public sector employers, all of whom face a downward pressure on income. Despite this, nurses are to be awarded a pay increase of 2.5 per cent, teachers are set to receive 2.3 per cent and the police are on course for a 2.5 per cent rise.

    "The BBC's plan to spend just one per cent of the pay bill on staff reward in 2010/11 is totally unacceptable," said Gerry Morrissey.

    "This claim is about rank and file BBC staff, not senior executives or on screen talent who can command six figure salaries."

    "For several years now BBC staff across the country have taken on increased workloads as thousands of jobs have been lost. In spite of this, staff strive to innovate and to deliver quality output with fewer staff," he explained.

    The unions pointed out that BBC pay restraint in 2009 meant that its basic pay bill rose by less than the rate of inflation, saving money.

    Meanwhile, BBC staff have less disposable income given the 1.5 per cent increase in employee pension contributions since April 2009.
  • lundavralundavra Posts: 31,790
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    Needless to say our friends at the Daily Mail don't mention 1.2% in their headline, they have "BBC splashes out £6m on pay rises despite calls for public sector wage restraint ".
  • TheEngineerTheEngineer Posts: 7,788
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    lundavra wrote: »
    Needless to say our friends at the Daily Mail don't mention 1.2% in their headline, they have "BBC splashes out £6m on pay rises despite calls for public sector wage restraint ".

    Well seeing as the editor for the Daily Mail has an income of £1,3m (according to one of the rival papers) you would think he could afford the facts :rolleyes:

    Interesting piece in the First Post

    http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/45859,news-comment,news-politics,paul-dacre-self-serving-and-sanctimonious
    Paul Dacre, Editor-in-Chief of the Daily Mail, has effectively argued that democracy might collapse and newspapers like his own could go out of business unless they are allowed - without reprisal or punishment - to go on publishing lies.
  • TheEngineerTheEngineer Posts: 7,788
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    It's interesting that those people who are normally so vocal when it comes to attacking the BBC have not replied to this post to pass comment on the pay freeze for many BBC staff and the fact that around 70% of the BBC earn less than £37,726 a year.

    But that probably upsets their view that everyone at the BBC is on huge salaries :rolleyes:

    Isn't it a pain when the facts get in the way :)
  • NilremNilrem Posts: 6,939
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    I suspect they are still seething that 30% of the BBC staff earn over £37k a year ;)

    It does sort of give the lie to them all "feeding from the public trough" and getting paid huge amounts.
  • Glenn AGlenn A Posts: 23,877
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    BBC salaries traditionally lagged 30 pc behind those of ITV and BBC pay has been a major issue for decades. I know 37k is decent for someone who presents a local radio show in Cumbria, but for someone in London on this salary it isn't very good considering how difficult it is to join the BBC. However, it is seen as a more rewarding employer intellectually than working for something like ITV2.
  • PizzatheactionPizzatheaction Posts: 20,157
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    I think BECTU et al need to stop aiming their fire at the BBC, and instead concentrate their fury on the real risk to tens of thousands of broadcasting industry jobs: a ragtag Government taking its orders from Rupert Murdoch.

    There's been a half-hearted BECTU campaign to save the BBC and the rest of the industry, but the campaign hasn't really moved beyond the confines of BECTU's website, and a few party conference fringe meetings.

    And with the eyes off the ball yet again, this time dwelling on pay rises, what little momemtum the campaign had built has now been lost.

    Very sad.

    P.S. Did Gerry Morrissey used to be a jockey?
  • tghe-retfordtghe-retford Posts: 26,449
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    I think BECTU et al need to stop aiming their fire at the BBC, and instead concentrate their fury on the real risk to tens of thousands of broadcasting industry jobs: a ragtag Government taking its orders from Rupert Murdoch.

    There's been a half-hearted BECTU campaign to save the BBC and the rest of the industry, but the campaign hasn't really moved beyond the confines of BECTU's website, and a few party conference fringe meetings.

    And with the eyes off the ball yet again, this time dwelling on pay rises, what little momemtum the campaign had built has now been lost.

    Very sad.

    P.S. Did Gerry Morrissey used to be a jockey?
    Agree entirely. The unions and campaign groups need to wake up and see the threat that Rupert Murdoch could be to UK media. If James and Rupert Murdoch succeed with their petitioning and demands for the BBC to be shrunk, axed or placed behind a voluntary paywall (which they'll be the gatekeeper of on satellite and could well be on DTT), the jobs of those who BECTU are supposed to be protecting will be put at grave risk, as will PSB/free-to-air broadcasting in the UK.

    I agree with you, BECTU need to reorganise their priorities, and quick!
  • jim_ukjim_uk Posts: 13,280
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    It should be out of step with what's been happening in the public sector, while people in the private sector have had wage cuts and freezes the public sector have carried on as normal.
  • mRebelmRebel Posts: 24,882
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    It's interesting that those people who are normally so vocal when it comes to attacking the BBC have not replied to this post to pass comment on the pay freeze for many BBC staff and the fact that around 70% of the BBC earn less than £37,726 a year.

    But that probably upsets their view that everyone at the BBC is on huge salaries :rolleyes:

    Isn't it a pain when the facts get in the way :)

    BBC 'Talent' is exempt from the freeze on higher paid staff. Another unfortunate fact.
  • exlordlucanexlordlucan Posts: 35,375
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    mRebel wrote: »
    BBC 'Talent' is exempt from the freeze on higher paid staff. Another unfortunate fact.

    Not fact just cobblers from you, unless of course you can back it up with something.
  • Rabbit RabbitRabbit Rabbit Posts: 331
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    It's interesting that those people who are normally so vocal when it comes to attacking the BBC have not replied to this post to pass comment on the pay freeze for many BBC staff and the fact that around 70% of the BBC earn less than £37,726 a year.

    At the time I thought you didn't get the response that I might have expected. I think you under-estimated the impact on BBC staff taking into consideration the pay increase last year was of a similar amount to all staff earning under £60k, there has been Consumer Price Index inflation and RPIX inflation which means the BBC staff are now worse off than they were and the situation will continue to get worse, yesterday the Evening Standard was quoting rail price increases of 10%.

    And now today we have the announcements of a virtual freeze on pension increases which will reduce my expected pension by around £2,500 per year.

    Stuffed, good and proper.
  • The PhazerThe Phazer Posts: 8,487
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    mRebel wrote: »
    BBC 'Talent' is exempt from the freeze on higher paid staff. Another unfortunate fact.

    No it isn't. The BBC seem to be a multi year programme of cutting talent fees by a quarter.

    Phazer
  • Glenn AGlenn A Posts: 23,877
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    Everyone thinks BBC staff are on huge wages except those in the know, but this post proves otherwise. Although the celebs, the top managers and senior technical and production staff will be on large salaries, most of the lower level and regional staff will be on flat rate basic salaries that aren't much above the national average. I know presenters and producers at Radio Cumbria who aren't self employed earn 30 to 36 k a year.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 985
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    The Phazer wrote: »
    No it isn't. The BBC seem to be a multi year programme of cutting talent fees by a quarter.

    Phazer

    whys the license fee going up every year if all there costs are going down.. sounds like a fiddle to me!
  • mikwmikw Posts: 48,715
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    mRebel wrote: »
    BBC 'Talent' is exempt from the freeze on higher paid staff. Another unfortunate fact.

    What??!! Can you prove this untruth?
  • mikwmikw Posts: 48,715
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    nh3com wrote: »
    whys the license fee going up every year if all there costs are going down.. sounds like a fiddle to me!

    Why does the cost of a Sky subscription go up every year?

    BBC goes up because of rising costs and more programming - and investment in new technology, more broadcast platforms too.
  • The SnakesThe Snakes Posts: 8,940
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    It's interesting that those people who are normally so vocal when it comes to attacking the BBC have not replied to this post to pass comment on the pay freeze for many BBC staff and the fact that around 70% of the BBC earn less than £37,726 a year.

    But that probably upsets their view that everyone at the BBC is on huge salaries :rolleyes:

    Isn't it a pain when the facts get in the way :)
    £37,000 is way above the countries average wage, and almost double the median wage (the true average IMO).

    Most normal working people have not had a pay rise at all, and work far harder than BBC people.
  • PeterBPeterB Posts: 9,487
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    The Snakes wrote: »
    £37,000 is way above the countries average wage, and almost double the median wage (the true average IMO).

    Most normal working people have not had a pay rise at all, and work far harder than BBC people.

    Interesting comment - please explain.

    Are you saying nobody should be paid more than the average wage?
  • TheEngineerTheEngineer Posts: 7,788
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    The Snakes wrote: »
    £37,000 is way above the countries average wage, and almost double the median wage (the true average IMO).

    Given that a significant amount of BBC staff are based in London you should perhaps compare this to a London wage.

    The median london wage in 2009 was £627 per week £32,604

    http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=285

    So the fact that around 70% of the BBC earn less than £37,726 a year doesn't seem quite so excessive now does it?
    The Snakes wrote: »
    Most normal working people have not had a pay rise at all, and work far harder than BBC people.

    Can you prove that "most" people work far harder than BBC people?

    No - I didn't think so :rolleyes:
  • carl.waringcarl.waring Posts: 35,684
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    Exactly. If they didn't talk such obvious rubbish and stuck to facts they would.... actually, thinking about it, they probably wouldn't have an argument left ;):p:D
  • TheEngineerTheEngineer Posts: 7,788
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    Exactly. If they didn't talk such obvious rubbish and stuck to facts they would.... actually, thinking about it, they probably wouldn't have an argument left ;):p:D

    The trouble is, that is the way many people on these boards behave.
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    they are luck to be getting any kind of pay rise, in my opinion.

    besides if people donbt like their pay rises surely they can go and get higher paid jobs in the commercial sector?
  • LawrenceteroLawrencetero Posts: 3,765
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    Not fact just cobblers from you, unless of course you can back it up with something.

    the pay rise offer to christina bleakly? doesnt that demonstrate the talent are not getting the same "cap" as the middle income emplyees?
  • LawrenceteroLawrencetero Posts: 3,765
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    The Phazer wrote: »
    No it isn't. The BBC seem to be a multi year programme of cutting talent fees by a quarter.

    Phazer

    so if the talent were under these same - no rises - conditions how come christina bleakyl got offer a huge increase to stay at the bbc?
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