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Daily Mail story about JNT and Downie sexually exploiting young fans in the 80s
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Story here:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2298399/Doctor-Who-staff-used-positions-sexually-exploit-young-male-fans-1980s.html
Ties in with this thread:
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1803577
No significant implications for the show I suspect. The tone of the comments so far seems to be that it's a non story. Both dead and no one involved wanting to take any action.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2298399/Doctor-Who-staff-used-positions-sexually-exploit-young-male-fans-1980s.html
Ties in with this thread:
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1803577
No significant implications for the show I suspect. The tone of the comments so far seems to be that it's a non story. Both dead and no one involved wanting to take any action.
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Very much this.
Well here's the story as reported in the Sunday Times website..not the full story unless you're a subscriber but you get the gist
http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/uk_news/Tech/article1234996.ece
At least the Mail makes it clear in headline that this happened in the 80s. The Sunday Times takes a bit more reading to see that this isn't related to the current show.
Daily Mail in Unexpected Accuracy Shock!!
Quick, someone phone The Daily Express....
Ha haa!:D
Not defending the Mail by the way. There's no defence for a paper that runs stories about how awful anorexia is next to stories about how fat female celebs are looking.
An unforgettable anniversary - exactly as promised.
Thank heavens the actual next episode has been reviewed well.
^ This.
The allegations don't seem to be about anything which isn't consensual, so anyone commenting it's 'sick' is by proxy saying they disagree with the current homosexual age of consent, and can therefore nob right off!
The concern is the extent to which they used their status as keepers of the keys to Who goodies to gain access to and coerce people. Also, in Downie's case the allegations do refer to things that weren't consensual, even if not the sort of thing that those involved feel needs to be investigated as a crime.
We don't know what sort of reaction there would have been had it been men of their age with girl fans (ie a programme that actually had many girl fans in those days) of the same age, but following Savile it may well have been similar.
I agree, this pretend outrage is really disguised homophobia
The claims come from a book written by someone who was 17 at the time and went on to fake stuff on Blue Peter.
http://www.starburstmagazine.com/features/interviews/4661-interview-richard-marson-author-of-the-life-and-scandalous-times-of-john-nathan-turner
There's a review of that book here
http://m.guardian.co.uk/books/2013/mar/22/jnt-scandalous-doctor-who-review
As you seem to be cojoining the idea of none of these activities being non-consensual with Richard Marson's veracity as an author, are you denying his account of an attempted sexual assault by Gary Downie based on the fact that years later he fixed the naming of the Blue Peter cat?
Instead of spluttering out vague accusations, let's get our facts straight:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Marson#Competition_controversies
Their front page has a big picture of Colin standing next to JNT and the article itself has a pic of him standing next to Jimmy Saville from the time he appeared on Jim'll Fix It
The article also has a pic of Sylvester standing next to JNT
In both cases the Mirror says in small writing that Colin and Sylvester are not involved in the claims but weak-minded tabloid readers could easily ignore that
Nothing vague about it, the 17 bit is from his own book, the Blue Peter fakery scandal is well documented including by the BBC itself.
No I'm not denying his account of anything.
We all choose how much weight you put on his claims.
He clearly has a book to sell and has a history with the BBC, which sacked him for vote-rigging.