Jumped ship.
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Having owned the great Humax freetime box since launch day,I have now moved over to YouView. Reason being the continual delay of the two missing on demand players,plus the lack of a remote record app. I'll miss the YouTube function,but I'm finding the features on YouView outweigh this loss. As mentioned the remote record app is pretty basic,but it does the job.Also the ability to start viewing a recording at a point I wish to is a great advantage.The four extra players also made my move easier. I do wish freetime the best of luck,but at the moment I think YouView has the edge.
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All the awful low res, low bitrate freeview channels are enough to keep me away from Youview though.
Satellite picture quality is superior in the main and that's more important to me. I tend to record stuff far more than rely on any catchup services.
4OD has yet to be confirmed for June. I agree with you regarding low bitrate on YouView,but as nearly all my viewing is in HD,I cannot see any difference between the two platforms.
Bottom line here though, is you're trying to justify why you switched and I'm justifying why I wont, which just shows that at the end of the day it all comes down to each users own particular needs and preferences.
I'm not really sure what this thread hoped to achieve tbh.
There are so many other options for getting the On Demand services onto your TV I cannot understand why you would jump ship for something as simple as this? Example, Apple TV which I use all the time does a great job. I can also jump to a point in the recording on the 1000s - simple.
Mind you they do say there's nowt as queer as folks!
Am I to take it you've sold your <freetime> box then?
Which is the main (only?) reason for Freesat's existence - if you get full Freeview there's little reason to have Freesat as well (although Freesat obviously has much greater potential then Freeview, it remains to be seen if it will ever develop).
Can't agree there Nigel. I have the full Freeview package x4 but I still have Freesat. I find Freesat very responsive, more capacity, quicker and offers greater potential, with some very good hardware.
I was in one of the last area's to get HD on DTT so Freesat gave me earlier access to HD channels without the need to go to Sky. Which was also another reason why it was created.
Dan.
So where's Dave on your Freesat box
Plus a few other decent channels as well, and while Freesat does have more channels than Freeview most of the extra ones aren't much good, and not as good as the missing ones.
Your supposed 'advantages' almost all appear to be simple hardware ones, which are nothing to do with Freesat or Freeview, simply down to design and cost of the boxes.
I'm sure for most folk not having Dave on your Freesat box is annoying but not a major issue as you can just tune in using the TVs tuner.
I get the full Freeview line up but when there's certain atmospheric conditions I do lose a mux which is one of the reasons for me moving to Freesat.
IMO Freeview has one disadvantage being that it cannot really evolve much more than it is as there's not much chance of new channels being included, only new channels replacing existing channels it what can be achieved.
Whereas Freesat has an opertunity of having so much more which it does already. The only thing preventing even more extra channels is the broadcasters unwillingness to pay for the EPG slot, but that stance does seem to of changed of late as more and more channels are going FTA.
But YouView already has six on demand services on board as of now. I work away from home a lot,so am finding the remote record a godsend.Are you saying you can input a start point on a recording by entering say 22 minutes?Also with the major players backing YouView,I can see it progressing quicker than freetime.
On eBay as of tonight.
How?, when the vast majority of Freeview transmitters don't broadcast Dave (and many other channels). That's the reason for Freesat's existence, which unfortunately doesn't include providing Dave.
The EPG costs have nothing to do with channels not appearing on Freesat, it's a small enough fee not to be significant - the reasons are FAR more complicated and expensive than that.
I have full Freeview coverage but chose Freesat as my main platform for early access to HD channels, additional channels that I would actually watch including news and music, additional BBC red button streams (since removed) and the potential for growth.
The only small temptation to consider a new platform currently is the free BT Sport channels offer since I'm with BT for my broadband, but the situation on DTT looks a mess with the terrestrial broadcasts limited to a BT Vision receiver and the Youview box needing an Infinity connection. I've no wish to subscribe to Sky or use a Sky HD box for freesat.
OH NO, no Dave:eek: well that's the end of FREESAT then Nigel:D:D:D
Yet the vast majority of viewers can receive it (90% according to Ofcom), as it's mainly just small relay transmitters that are unable to carry the full Freeview service.
Yes, just about to watch BBC Scotland, where's that on your Freeview box, if your not in Scotland? Of course with having both I can mix and match.
Which is pretty minor
By FAR the greatest reason for having Freesat (and the reason for it's creation) is if you only get Freeview Lite.
Brother in Law has Youview, the hardware is to slow to die sudden.
So you have the brass neck to quote Dave then state Freesat's ability to watch all regional programming as minor - do me a favour.
Freeview offers up to 50 TV channels, and 24 radio stations plus 4 HD channels.
Freesat brings you over 150 free TV and radio channels which currently stands at 191 channels, 6 of which are HD and add on top of that non-freesat mode.
Yep of coarse Freeview lite is the only reason for going to Freesat
If yous is 99p starting bid, being its a no listing fee weekend I would have made at least £10 to £20 starting bid
well i have put my technisat on as to re-invest in a Foxsat HDR, should never have sold it when i got the freetime box but hey ho, they cheap enuff graded direct from humax