Hahahaha.:D:D:D:D There's no such evidence of this because it's absurd. Aside from being beyond a human capacity to scream for 15 minutes, it's beyond belief to think that neighbours just listened on and let her scream for that long. Sit and watch your clock for 15 minutes, it's a very very long time. Once you're finished, ask yourself... am I really really being serious here?
If you truly believe this to be a possibility, I have an invisible cloak to sell you.
Missing the point, as ever.
Don't care if it was 15 seconds - a woman screaming just once proves that your hero is a murdering bastard.
But you think it was him screaming as he "carefully" walked up a corridor to confront an intruder, too scared to put the lights on.
Thank you for the offer of an invisible cloak. How about a swap with my Common Sense For Dummies book? I have never needed it myself but I am sure you could use it ;-)
Hahahaha.:D:D:D:D There's no such evidence of this because it's absurd. Aside from being beyond a human capacity to scream for 15 minutes, it's beyond belief to think that neighbours just listened on and let her scream for that long. Sit and watch your clock for 15 minutes, it's a very very long time. Once you're finished, ask yourself... am I really really being serious here?
If you truly believe this to be a possibility, I have an invisible cloak to sell you.
Updated Poll @07/09- (@21.55) Add your opinion and repost removing quotes
WHAT YOU THINK OP WILL BE CHARGED
50 Murder with Intent (Dolus Directus)
8 Murder (Dolus Eventualis)
3 Culpable Homicide
3 Acquittal
0 Not Sure
Dolus Directus (direct intent), is where the accused meant to perpetrate the prohibited conduct, or to bring about the criminal consequence and where the consequences of an action were both foreseen and desired by the perpetrator. You want to kill someone, so you shoot him. In this case the perpetrator had a specific victim in mind and then went about killing him or her.
Dolus eventualis (without intent) exists where the accused does not mean to actually cause the unlawful consequence which follows from his conduct, but foresees or should foresee the possibility of the consequences ensuing, and nonetheless proceeds with his conduct. An example would be of an assault where a perpetrator gets into a fight and uses a knuckle duster to beat up the victim, not actually intending to kill the victim, and the victim dies.
Culpable homicide has been defined simply as the unlawful negligent killing of a human being. The essential difference with this crime from those mentioned above lies in the fact that the fault in this crime stems from negligence (culpa) and not intent. The test in determining whether the accused is guilty of this crime lies in the question – “what a reasonable person would have done given the same circumstances?
Hahahaha.:D:D:D:D There's no such evidence of this because it's absurd. Aside from being beyond a human capacity to scream for 15 minutes, it's beyond belief to think that neighbours just listened on and let her scream for that long. Sit and watch your clock for 15 minutes, it's a very very long time. Once you're finished, ask yourself... am I really really being serious here?
If you truly believe this to be a possibility, I have an invisible cloak to sell you.
Love it: the old guard of this thread is once more honing in on the crux of the matter: evidence of screams ending with sounds. What's your take on OP's screaming according to his version as laid out in the piece by Donmack? ( http://www.biznews.com/oscar-pistori...ts-us-believe/ )
just while we're touching on the subject of the screams... i watched a video recently on youtube (sandy posted it in the trench) of a dog dressed as a spider going round scaring people (i promise this will be on topic ) and two girls screamed in fright... there is no way i can really see oscar even managed to scream like that. and that was just fright. that wasn't in fear of their lives. it's very, very, very unlikely that a bloke can scream like that. i just do not see it happening. it was also an automatic reaction from them. they didn't think about what exactly it was they were seeing, so i don't believe reeva didn't scram after getting hit by the first shot. there's no way she stayed quiet the whole time
Clearly showing the strain of his ordeal, a bearded and stressed Pistorius admitted that he was not coping with the pressure.
It also emerged this week that the disabled athlete has ditched all of the homes he owned in South Africa, which suggests he is bracing for a lengthy legal battle if convicted on Thursday when Judge Thokozile Masipa hands down judgment.
Pistorius exploded with anger when he pulled up to the Waterkloof house in a new white Volvo XC60 on Friday and saw a Sunday Times team.
He's bloomin lucky he's even out on bail, he can't have it all ways - of course media are there and probably a nuisance for him --, but he's not in a prison cell like most on Trial for Murder.
just while we're touching on the subject of the screams... i watched a video recently on youtube (sandy posted it in the trench) of a dog dressed as a spider going round scaring people (i promise this will be on topic ) and two girls screamed in fright... there is no way i can really see oscar even managed to scream like that. and that was just fright. that wasn't in fear of their lives. it's very, very, very unlikely that a bloke can scream like that. i just do not see it happening. it was also an automatic reaction from them. they didn't think about what exactly it was they were seeing, so i don't believe reeva didn't scram after getting hit by the first shot. there's no way she stayed quiet the whole time
just while we're touching on the subject of the screams... i watched a video recently on youtube (sandy posted it in the trench) of a dog dressed as a spider going round scaring people (i promise this will be on topic ) and two girls screamed in fright... there is no way i can really see oscar even managed to scream like that. and that was just fright. that wasn't in fear of their lives. it's very, very, very unlikely that a bloke can scream like that. i just do not see it happening. it was also an automatic reaction from them. they didn't think about what exactly it was they were seeing, so i don't believe reeva didn't scram after getting hit by the first shot. there's no way she stayed quiet the whole time
A dog...dressed as a spider? Going around scaring people? Was it Scooby Doo?
Love it: the old guard of this thread is once more honing in on the crux of the matter: evidence of screams ending with sounds. What's your take on OP's screaming according to his version as laid out in the piece by Donmack? ( http://www.biznews.com/oscar-pistori...ts-us-believe/ )
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ine-prank.html
this one..................
At night, I tell you,........... it would scare the hell out of you
Trench is where those on here can go have chit chat and not stay on just OP topics.
I swear that would give me heart failure...and I'm not even scared of spiders.
Obviously the trench is some sort of parallel universe where dogs look like spiders and women scream like Oscar Pistorius. Best avoided at my age.
Siobhan has a good point, because in that VT , a girl is screaming , genuinely in fear - so that was the relevance, and it was easy to just pop the VT of that on here, to have a listen if interested. And anyone's welcome in the Trench ! ;-)
I fail to see how they could be confused by four intelligent people for 15 minutes or 15 seconds. Simply not credible.
The girls screaming made me shudder inside, especially thinking how Reeva must've screamed. So much that it haunts the witnesses and will for the rest of their lives
Hi just popped in so perhaps I missed something. Was it not that Roux tried to do a plea deal to plead to CH and Nel refused on the basis that he had a case for murder? I'm not sure if those rumours were true or not.
I thought they were, but then maybe it was a rumour.:)
Comments
Missing the point, as ever.
Don't care if it was 15 seconds - a woman screaming just once proves that your hero is a murdering bastard.
But you think it was him screaming as he "carefully" walked up a corridor to confront an intruder, too scared to put the lights on.
Thank you for the offer of an invisible cloak. How about a swap with my Common Sense For Dummies book? I have never needed it myself but I am sure you could use it ;-)
no evidence because it's absurd.
are you sure that makes sense?
WHAT YOU THINK OP WILL BE CHARGED
50 Murder with Intent (Dolus Directus)
8 Murder (Dolus Eventualis)
3 Culpable Homicide
3 Acquittal
0 Not Sure
Dolus Directus (direct intent), is where the accused meant to perpetrate the prohibited conduct, or to bring about the criminal consequence and where the consequences of an action were both foreseen and desired by the perpetrator. You want to kill someone, so you shoot him. In this case the perpetrator had a specific victim in mind and then went about killing him or her.
Dolus eventualis (without intent) exists where the accused does not mean to actually cause the unlawful consequence which follows from his conduct, but foresees or should foresee the possibility of the consequences ensuing, and nonetheless proceeds with his conduct. An example would be of an assault where a perpetrator gets into a fight and uses a knuckle duster to beat up the victim, not actually intending to kill the victim, and the victim dies.
Culpable homicide has been defined simply as the unlawful negligent killing of a human being. The essential difference with this crime from those mentioned above lies in the fact that the fault in this crime stems from negligence (culpa) and not intent. The test in determining whether the accused is guilty of this crime lies in the question – “what a reasonable person would have done given the same circumstances?
(for full definitions of above see #5553 or http://whosyourdadic.com/2014/04/09/the-oscar-pistorius-trial-what-did-he-do/
Judgement 11 September (courtesy of bookcover)
http://www.webcountdown.net/?c=1410424200
(courtesy of Jeremy)
78% Murder with Intent (Dolus Directus)
12% Murder (Dolus Eventualis)
5% Culpable Homicide
5% Acquittal
https://twitter.com/FoxCrimeAfrica/status/506727665811062784/photo/1
https://twitter.com/ulrichroux/status/498504116378009600/photo/1
here he is ...............pushing a trolley full of documents - must be lots of them !!
Looking forward to seeing Nel !!
Love it: the old guard of this thread is once more honing in on the crux of the matter: evidence of screams ending with sounds. What's your take on OP's screaming according to his version as laid out in the piece by Donmack? ( http://www.biznews.com/oscar-pistori...ts-us-believe/ )
http://www.timeslive.co.za/local/2014/09/07/furious-oscar-throws-tantrum-days-ahead-of-murder-trial-judgment
he's grown his hair - he's got a beard ..................:o:o
article reads
Oscar Pistorius threw a furious and emotional tantrum outside his uncle's Waterkloof home this week, losing his cool with a Sunday Times team just days ahead of judgment in his sensational murder trial.
Clearly showing the strain of his ordeal, a bearded and stressed Pistorius admitted that he was not coping with the pressure.
It also emerged this week that the disabled athlete has ditched all of the homes he owned in South Africa, which suggests he is bracing for a lengthy legal battle if convicted on Thursday when Judge Thokozile Masipa hands down judgment.
Pistorius exploded with anger when he pulled up to the Waterkloof house in a new white Volvo XC60 on Friday and saw a Sunday Times team.
He's bloomin lucky he's even out on bail, he can't have it all ways - of course media are there and probably a nuisance for him --, but he's not in a prison cell like most on Trial for Murder.
I do believe it’s a play on the words Roux used to Pistorius, that's…
no evidence because it’s a turd
… and don’t think I am polishing it!!
this one..................
At night, I tell you,........... it would scare the hell out of you !!!
A dog...dressed as a spider? Going around scaring people? Was it Scooby Doo?
What's the trench?
Obviously the trench is some sort of parallel universe where dogs look like spiders and women scream like Oscar Pistorius. Best avoided at my age.
this one..................
At night, I tell you,........... it would scare the hell out of you
Trench is where those on here can go have chit chat and not stay on just OP topics.
it was an elaborate prank in poland
the trench... our hideout for when we want to go off-topic: http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1982708
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GPJ1uQwmNHk
A man screaming:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H3vSRzkG82U
I fail to see how they could be confused by four intelligent people for 15 minutes or 15 seconds. Simply not credible.
hahahaha. i think you'd like it. come and join in: http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1982708
I swear that would give me heart failure...and I'm not even scared of spiders.
Great costume though ! the dog seemed quite happy about it all !
http://www.click2houston.com/news/dog-dressed-as-giant-mutant-spider-terrifies-people/27898402
the previous link disappeared, probably because has gone viral - so here's another- it's full version
Yes, Sandy, I'm number 50 for dolus directus. After the defection of number 51, I seem to be at the top of the heap again.
The girls screaming made me shudder inside, especially thinking how Reeva must've screamed. So much that it haunts the witnesses and will for the rest of their lives
I thought they were, but then maybe it was a rumour.:)
yes, i've never seen it reported as fact anywhere, so i'm inclined to take it with a pinch of salt
It is definitely just a rumour that Roux tried to plea bargain with Nel and Nel refused.
I did say it wasn't verified....and I doubt it ever will be, even if true.