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Breaking Bad Season 4 (US Pace) [Spoilers MUST be in tags!]
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It seems people are so desperate to be the ones to start a thread that they'll start them almost five months ahead of time (Dexter- seriously?), so I figure the new Breaking Bad thread must be way overdue at this point in time.
July 17th is the day we're waiting for, a day shy of ten weeks to go. It's been a horrendous wait, but as always its not nearly so bad now that its almost over... Of course, we were left with an absolute git of a cliffhanger and while I guess it's fairly safe to assume Walter and Jesse will get through it, I still have next to no idea how!
Usual rules apply: All spoilers and spoiler discussion must be kept within tags until they have aired, and are of course no longer spoilers. This includes promos for the following episode. Please respect this rule so that all viewers are able to use this thread
Speculative talk is perfectly welcome.
The only Season 4 promo I'm aware of thus far:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_s3hzeXR7o
However, I have just discovered while looking for the link that there are now strong indications (from Vince Gilligan) that the fifth season will be the last! - http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xic9xz_rencontre-avec-vince-gilligan-createur-de-breaking-bad-vo_shortfilms (Bryan Cranston/Breaking Bad talk starts just before the ten minute mark.)
July 17th is the day we're waiting for, a day shy of ten weeks to go. It's been a horrendous wait, but as always its not nearly so bad now that its almost over... Of course, we were left with an absolute git of a cliffhanger and while I guess it's fairly safe to assume Walter and Jesse will get through it, I still have next to no idea how!
Usual rules apply: All spoilers and spoiler discussion must be kept within tags until they have aired, and are of course no longer spoilers. This includes promos for the following episode. Please respect this rule so that all viewers are able to use this thread
Speculative talk is perfectly welcome.The only Season 4 promo I'm aware of thus far:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_s3hzeXR7o
However, I have just discovered while looking for the link that there are now strong indications (from Vince Gilligan) that the fifth season will be the last! - http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xic9xz_rencontre-avec-vince-gilligan-createur-de-breaking-bad-vo_shortfilms (Bryan Cranston/Breaking Bad talk starts just before the ten minute mark.)
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Yeah great interview,"we're gonna take Mr Chips and turn him into Scarface" brilliant.:D
No spoilers on that page, despite the site in question! I don't think there's any new footage in the promo, but I may be mistaken... It's certainly raised my anticipation levels
Six weeks Sunday!
I was annoyed that they are doing a remake of Total Recall. How could they mess with a classic?!
Then I heard Bryan Cranston was on board so I am now actually looking forward to this film on the sole aspect of this actor.
Oh and wait, here's a crap-tonne (yes, I just came up with that one from somewhere or other) of new info! It's more an outlook at what's to come, rather than direct spoilerage- but still read at your own risk!
Walt (Bryan Cranston) Our chemistry-teacher-turned-meth-maker manages to get himself in even more trouble, if that’s even a mathematical possibility. “Walt will find himself less enchanted with the world of meth production than he currently does,” says Gilligan. “He journeys deeper into this criminal underworld, and then much of season 4 is Walt’s effort to get out from under and overcome in a very dangerous battle of wills.” In other words, brace yourself for an epic struggle between Walt and Gus (Giancarlo Esposito).
“In many ways [Walt and Gus] have great admiration and respect for each other, for their specific abilities, and yet they’re adversaries,” says Cranston. “As much as they attempted to become a union, they’re too much at odds, which is interesting because they’re very similar in many ways and yet in a few key ways, they’re very different. It’s going to be interesting to see how it plays out, and it is a match of wits all the way through the season.”
Skyler (Anna Gunn) Walt’s relationship with his wife, Skyler, which has been in a downward spiral, will move in new directions this season. “Oddly enough, as his professional life gets darker, he and Skyler will come to some sort of an understanding,” says Gilligan. “We’ll see them partnered in a business, which will bring them together — and also cause a lot of friction. And the way they procure this business is a lot of fun…. It’s interesting that Walt has long felt that what he does, he does for his family, and in that sense he and Skyler share a trait. We will grow to, if not agree with many of her choices this season, respect her more this season for her mental toughness and pragmatism and desire to do right by her family.”
Adds Cranston: “Skyler sees capabilities in [Walt] that she’s never realized, and it changes her outlook. For the first time, she’s seeing her husband as a dangerous man — an intimidating, powerful man. And she gets involved, and she has some very good ideas and surprising ideas to Walt. So they become closer in at least one way.”
Jesse (Aaron Paul) Whatever happened when Walt’s partner, Jesse, fired his gun will have a profound impact on him. “It definitely echoes throughout the season,” says Paul. “Just him going up to that door and pulling the trigger, whether he killed Gayle or not, I see as definitely crossing that bridge, and now he’s living in a whole other world of just turmoil. All of last season, he was dealing with the loss of his girlfriend — he blamed himself, he had no idea that Walt had anything to do with it. So now Jesse is morphing into yet another person within himself, just struggling with his inner demons. It’s pretty intense.”
One way that manifests itself: Jesse distracts himself with debauchery. “Jesse’s going to have the party to end all parties,” says Gilligan. “We’re going to find out Jesse has some pretty amazing Hugh Hefner-ish genes, and he’s going to have the parties of all parties this season, but probably not one you would want to attend. Not after the first few days anyway.” He also finds himself with a new partner in crime in the form of a familiar face. “It’s a budding romance in the drug world,” hints Paul cryptically. “It’s a beautiful thing, and I know people will like it.”
Hank (Dean Norris) Everybody’s favorite DEA agent will unhappily embark on a difficult rehabilitation process after taking a few bullets in that chilling shootout. “Hank definitely has a very long road to recovery,” says Gilligan. “[But] even though things look pretty dire in the early going, he will get his mojo back as the season progresses in some fashion, although probably not in the fashion that you’d expect.”
Gus (Giancarlo Esposito) “People are going to have nightmares about Gus Fring,” declares Gilligan. Get set to see the full power of this drug lord in his battle with Walt and learn more about his empire and past. “This is a very interesting and complex character who is also very smart, and even when he scares us, we’ll always find ourselves respecting his intelligence and his will and his great ability to do the things that he does,” notes Gilligan.
Saul (Bob Odenkirk) Walt’s sleazy lawyer will be “pulled deeper and further into places he doesn’t want to go,” and he’ll work with a couple of new characters whom “we’re going to enjoy being around,” notes Gilligan. One is his new bodyguard, who is “exactly the kind of bodyguard you would expect Saul to hire.” And, of course, Mr. Goodman won’t disappoint in the fashion department. “We can expect more in the way of amazing, flamboyant and eye-piercing sartorial choices,” quips Gilligan. “Saul’s wardrobe could take the paint off of a fence.”
Marie (Betsy Brandt) Skyler’s klepto-sis may wind up stealing your heart this year. “She’s got her quirks and her peccadilloes, and we love her for that, but this season we’ll really respect her for personality traits that she had previously not revealed to us,” says Gilligan. “She works very hard to nurse her husband, whom she loves very much, back to health. And [through] that struggle, we’re going to appreciate her more because she’s a much more substantial person than some of us might have thought.”
Walt Jr. (RJ Mitte) Walt’s son turns the big 1-6, which means only one thing: He’s getting a car. “I’m looking forward to people seeing the car that he gets from his loving dad,” chuckles Gilligan. “It’s going to be one of the highlights this season.”
It just keeps coming
Will Walt Jr. (RJ Mitte) finally succumb to the criminal life of his father? Will Hank (Dean Norris) not be able to survive a shoot out due to his Season 3 injuries? Has Walt had enough of Saul Goodman (Bob Odenkirk)? Or is Jesse (Aaron Paul) finally going to shake hands with the Destiny that was originally planned for him in Season 1 by series creator Vince Gilligan?
Here is what Bryan Cranston had to say about the demise of a key player less than ten minutes into the Emmy-winning AMC series' return.
"There is always a chance that (Aaron Paul) may not make it. Without giving away too many details, there is a character on our show that will not survive the first episode. How about that for a teaser?"
When asked if it was one of the key players, Bryan Cranston confirmed that one of the more beloved characters would not be coming back, further giving us an update on the show.
"Yeah. I will give you a little nugget there. A little tease. (This has) been a great season. This will be the first season that we have wrapped completely. We will be done and gone from New Mexico by the time the first episode airs. There will be some distance from what we are seeing. Again, Season 4 has been masterfully written by Vince Gilligan and his writing staff. To churn out the agony and the ecstasy of these characters? It's like a well-crafted tragedy. It keeps getting tighter and tighter. This life that Walter White has chosen is fraught with complications and tension. And its so exciting to watch it all play out."
Cannot wait.
Tomorrow is my birthday, and what better present for the early part of the day than what sounds like one of the best Breaking Bad eps yet?
I have a feeling Sky Atlantic will pick this up sooner or later. Like with Rescue Me, it continues to surprise me that this show didn't stay where it was originally. I know the reasons, but worse shows that are surely expensive first run get aired in the country regularly! Poorly treated by Five US then FX airs the first season again and that's it? Probably to burn it off.
But you're right. Nobody watches it in the UK. Surely another candidate for Sky Atlantic. Though it should have found an audience on BBC Four or More4.
Jesse was unnervingly composed in the aftermath but you get the impression that he's been put past a point now... I think he's seen so much that he would never have imagined he'd see and is becoming desensitized to such brutality. I'm fascinated to see what comes next, as this can only go one way now- Walt or Gus. The end shot may well be the sign of things to come...
When first viewed it's just a knife. On second viewing the close up shot of the knife means so much more. Little things like this are what make this show so special.
Just imagine something of this calibre being produced in the UK - could it ever happen where amorality wins?
When Victor told Mike he had been seen at the crime scene I thought - bad idea. Just lie. I wonder if Gus meant to kill him as soon as he entered the ''factory''. Or was Gus going to kill Walt and Jesse, and Walt's reasoning changed his mind?