CPS Criticised Over Historic Cases
Crown Prosecution Service have been criticised over its decision to prosecute many well known celebrities. This all came to light after Jimmy Saville death - BBC Newsnight programme began an investigation into reports that he was a paedophile. I wonder if Saville was still alive would these cases including Bill Roache, Rolf Harris, Dave Lee Travis, Max Clifford and most recent Nigel Evans and others had been a bigger profile?
I'm just asking could these cases which the CPS ( Crown Prosecution Service ) have investigated and seen celebrities cleared of sex charges that women will be put off coming to the police. We are hearing noises from all sources -but unfortunately Saville died " It looks like we haven't got our man, so we go and find others?"
I'm just asking could these cases which the CPS ( Crown Prosecution Service ) have investigated and seen celebrities cleared of sex charges that women will be put off coming to the police. We are hearing noises from all sources -but unfortunately Saville died " It looks like we haven't got our man, so we go and find others?"
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they constantly say it was right to put the allegations before a jury. but there own guidelines say they have to have a realistic prospect of conviction.
apparently this means over 50% chance. what is their conviction rate in this area?
and how realistic os the prospect of conviction when the 'victim' says they don't believe there was a crime, or in the bill roache case they can't actually remember the incident.
CPS don't pay it back. Why should you pay court costs if your found not guilty?
I suppose the arguement would be that if the state were to re-imburse all the defendants costs then there's nothing to stop huge bills being racked up. I'm sure part of the reason for Roache/Travis/Evans's huge bills is that they engaged the very best (and so expensive) briefs they could.
I am concerned though that the CPS seem to be taking the view that if they find enough low-level, possibly dubious, accusations that somehow the defendant becomes guilty simply by weight of numbers.
They also say that when they decide not to bring a prosecution as there is little chance of a conviction.
No, as it isn't their decision to bring a case to court.
Absolutely not. i assume you just haven't thought through the implications.
imagine, say your house is burgled, the police bring the case to court, for some reason the person who did it gets off. you should pay the court fees?
how many people would report a rape if they risked financial ruin.
witness a murder?
In general no, but if someone was found to have lied and made up accusations then if they were of sound mind at the time then yes I think they should. And in cases such as this accuser in the Roache case
The CPS should cover any costs relating to that charge because it should never have got to court and if it had been a member of the public accused with the same evidence it would not have.
The CPS might not ask for as many cases for one person like we have seen be pursed in court in one go. We have seen many celebrities recently being investigated for upto 12 charges.
Don't suggest that to the government. It would be a perfect way to shut down all complaints of sex crime. They have been adept at shutting down investigations of the filthiest crimes committed by their own - imposing financial penalties on complainants would end complaints completely. In whose interests would that be?
Quite. Cyril Smith is back in the news today. How to delay action on figures in the political establishment - Strategy 1 - Concentrate on celebrities; Strategy 2 - When that fails, go back to dead people. The post Evans stances on CPS, if and when they lead to a clampdown, will be the modern equivalent to bodies being chucked off Morning Cloud.
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They got away withit because of corruption in high and very high places. Apart from looking at those who suffered at the hands of Savile and Smith, I'd be taking a very close look at the establishment that not only did nothing but in some cases both supported and participated.
*if things had gone differently
They are having a second try on DLT and have come up with new charges , makes you wonder how thorough the original investigation was