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Quiet on the wards!

Andy2Andy2 Posts: 11,949
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2659540/Nurses-banned-chatting-allow-patients-sleep-properly-union-says.html

Royal College of Nursing is urging hospitals to display 'quiet please' signs
Also encouraging all hospitals to install quiet slow-closing doors and bins
Claims patients deprived of sleep are at higher risk of heart disease, high blood pressure, constant pain, aggression and delayed wound healing.



It's no joke. I recently spent 10 days in hospital and the noise at night was horrendous. The overnight staff spent ages moving stuff about and generally making a racket. They were constantly in and out of one of the offices (it happened to be just across the corridor from our bay), every time letting the door slam. After a few nights of this, I pointed out that we were trying to sleep and asked them to be quiet, but the look of disdain was enough to put me off my breakfast. Absolutely no consideration at all.
The rest of my care was brilliant and so was the food, but the noise!
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    shmiskshmisk Posts: 7,963
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    We do that now- we had someone in to record noise at night and feedback how to stop it.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 2,406
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    during my recent stay in hospital, our bay was directly opposite the nurses' station, one night, a couple of the nurses were singing gospel songs and talking about suitable songs for forthcoming weddings one night:o
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 142
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    I hope it works but the one time I was in hospital when I was 14 the worst thing was the lights! I got no sleep at all and the light was more to blame than any noise.

    But if noise is a big problem for people on wards now then I hope this helps.
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    albertdalbertd Posts: 14,361
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    A few years back I had to have a minor emergency op, going in via A&E. I was put in an A&E side ward for the night and half of it was spent one curtain's thickness away from someone who kept on shouting out. It was horrendous.
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    Tt88Tt88 Posts: 6,827
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    The worst problem to do with noise is patients shouting and screaming in the night but theres nothing they can do about that.

    Our local hospital used to have two wards that specialised in dementia especially patients who would be shouting and walking about all night. They had extra staff on there and contained the noisy patients to one ward. Every 6 months they alternated between the wards so the nurses got a bit of time off. Due to budget cuts they closed down one of the wards and now its a nightmare.

    The patients who wouldve gone to that ward are now spread out on other wards keeping everyone awake at night.

    What i think they could do is either open the ward back up, or open up one of the few closed wards for patients who are struggling to sleep so they get a bit of rest after a few days of not sleeping.

    Some things you cant avoid. The obs machines can be noisy when pushed around but you cant carry them everywhere.
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    dee123dee123 Posts: 46,271
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    Hospitals are not really quiet places.
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    ElyanElyan Posts: 8,781
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    The last time I was in hospital there was a nurse on the night shift that sounded like she was wearing horse shoes.

    Then every time you nod off they're over waking you up for your meds.

    You can't really get a rest in hospital.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 6,279
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    dee123 wrote: »
    Hospitals are not really quiet places.
    They used to be. After lunch they'd close the curtains (the window ones) and let you sleep for an hour. During that time, they would only whisper. The rest of the time, they didn't make any noise unless they had to. And set visiting times, that should be brought back.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 3,811
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    Rowdy wrote: »
    They used to be. After lunch they'd close the curtains (the window ones) and let you sleep for an hour. During that time, they would only whisper. The rest of the time, they didn't make any noise unless they had to. And set visiting times, that should be brought back.

    Last time I was in hosp [2008] we had set visiting and afternoon quiet time after lunch. I was in there 2.5 months, it took me ages to get out of the afternoon nap habit when I got discharged.
    I don't think it was on all wards. I've visited friends in the same hosp on different wards, and they have open visiting all day. The ward I was on was an acute ward tho so that may be why.

    I can't say it was especially noisy at night. Considering we were right by the sluice room. The staff were very considerate in that way. They were wonderful in everyway tbh.

    I did get a very rude awakening one night though. Woke up to find a male patient looming right over me, lifing my covers and trying to get in bed with me. I was on all sorts of pain killers at the time, so it did give me a bit of a turn :blush:
    The next night I went for a walk to get a cup of hot chocolate from the vending machine cos I couldn't sleep, and when I got back he was actually in my bed lol.
    Not sure what he was in for, but he had learning difficulties, and his bed was in the same position as mine in the next bay. Bless him.
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    WinterLilyWinterLily Posts: 6,305
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    Rowdy wrote: »
    They used to be. After lunch they'd close the curtains (the window ones) and let you sleep for an hour. During that time, they would only whisper. The rest of the time, they didn't make any noise unless they had to. And set visiting times, that should be brought back.

    I think those days are very long gone. This used to happen on children's wards - not sure whether it still does.

    I started my nursing career in the 70's and I don't remember a quiet hour after lunch...although it's a lovely idea. However, not sure whether it can be now be practical.

    I wouldn't know...still a nurse but not worked in an hospital environment for over 10 years.
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    LightningIguanaLightningIguana Posts: 21,853
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    Last time I was in there was a 16 year old (shunted off the kids ward because she was now too old) in the bed opposite. She was loud, swore, constantly groaned when other people were unwell and spent the day with the music on loud and singing.

    Luckily, she signed herself out one night and the next patient was lovely and quiet.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 6,279
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    WinterLily wrote: »
    I think those days are very long gone. This used to happen on children's wards - not sure whether it still does.

    I started my nursing career in the 70's and I don't remember a quiet hour after lunch...although it's a lovely idea. However, not sure whether it can be now be practical.

    I wouldn't know...still a nurse but not worked in an hospital environment for over 10 years.
    I know they're long gone - hence my lament.
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    TardisSteveTardisSteve Posts: 8,077
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    when i was last in hospital i was woken in the night to have my obs done, the machine makes a bit of noise could hear it going off in the night, also was right near the nurses station

    once at night when i was in hospital 6 years ago with pneumonia i was coughing so loudly i was told off by the nurse (wasn't my bloody fault i couldn't stop coughing) and moved to a side room so i wouldn't disturb the other patients, noise does happen in a hospital ward
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    Miss XYZMiss XYZ Posts: 14,023
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    Hospitals are the worst place in the world to try and get sleep and rest.

    When I had my second child, the baby opposite screamed all through the night. Nothing would settle him. It was impossible to get any sleep. Morning came around and he was still crying constantly and someone asked the parents if his nappy had been changed recently. The mother said his nappy hadn't been changed at all since he'd been born the previous day. They didn't realise they had to change his nappy because "no one told us." The poor little thing eventually settled after he was finally changed.
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    Bulletguy1Bulletguy1 Posts: 18,429
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    There's no pleasing some folk who expect a Hospital to be an Hotel. There can't be much wrong with them when they find the energy to moan and complain.

    The last time i was in Hospital after a major emergency 'op' i was only too glad of the daily activity with Nursing staff buzzing around the ward. In fact by far the worst experience came when i got stuck in a room on my own. It nearly drove me mad! Thankfully i was back on the ward again after a few days.
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    jarryhackjarryhack Posts: 5,076
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    purplecatz wrote: »
    during my recent stay in hospital, our bay was directly opposite the nurses' station, one night, a couple of the nurses were singing gospel songs and talking about suitable songs for forthcoming weddings one night:o

    I had the same sort of situation (minus the gospel singing :D) my son was in hospital with Meningitis when he was 1. I stayed overnight all the time he was in. It was horrendous. Our room was right opposite the nurses station. They were noisy all night every night. Laughing, joking, shrieking loud chatting, they were so inconsiderate. I mentioned it to a nurse and just got a shrug of the shoulders.
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    gomezzgomezz Posts: 44,625
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    What is surprising is that hospital staff need to be told.
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    Fibromite59Fibromite59 Posts: 22,518
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    I have been in hospital quite a lot of times and can't remember a time when there hasn't been at least one person shouting at nights. It's usually an old person with, I suspect, dementia. They then seem to be quiet and sleep all day, and then start shouting and charging around the ward every night.

    As others have said, the nurses now are very noisy and seem to wear hob-nailed boots as they stamp up and down the wards, throwing items about with a loud clatter.

    I remember when they used to have a quiet hour usually between one and two in the afternoon before the visitors came in for the afternoon. It was a nice rest and the blinds were drawn and the nurses were quiet. The last time I remember this happening was in 1999 when I was in there. It is a shame that has stopped now.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,990
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    Having to go into hospital is my idea of hell. I can not stand to be around people when I am not well and if those people were also not well?! I have asked my brother that if I did have to go in for whatever reason if he could pay so that I was by myself, he said yes and asked the same of me.
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    nethwennethwen Posts: 23,374
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    Bring back matrons to the wards! That will shut the noisy nurses up. ;)
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    MarellaKMarellaK Posts: 5,783
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    nethwen wrote: »
    Bring back matrons to the wards! That will shut the noisy nurses up. ;)

    I keep reading this, on here and in the media, but matrons have been back in most hospitals for years. Just because they're professional women nowadays and not the supposed domineering, controlling women of the past, the general public don't seem to have noticed they're long back.
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    shmiskshmisk Posts: 7,963
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    I have been in hospital quite a lot of times and can't remember a time when there hasn't been at least one person shouting at nights. It's usually an old person with, I suspect, dementia. They then seem to be quiet and sleep all day, and then start shouting and charging around the ward every night.

    As others have said, the nurses now are very noisy and seem to wear hob-nailed boots as they stamp up and down the wards, throwing items about with a loud clatter.

    I remember when they used to have a quiet hour usually between one and two in the afternoon before the visitors came in for the afternoon. It was a nice rest and the blinds were drawn and the nurses were quiet. The last time I remember this happening was in 1999 when I was in there. It is a shame that has stopped now.

    Quiet hour was stopped by doctors who felt it was more beneficial for patients to see them then sleep
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    Bus Stop2012Bus Stop2012 Posts: 5,624
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    I was supposed to stay overnight in a hospital a few years ago, for observation after an accident. I had to discharge myself and go home because of the slamming doors.
    I guess this is why, in the good old days, everyone got sleeping pills.
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    shmiskshmisk Posts: 7,963
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    I must work in an abnormal hospital. Lights off by 1030, biggest source if noise patient call bells or medical emergencies/arrests

    I (night sister for want of better description) often get called by relatives/patients who want to complain about an ill person being noisy. Or dementia patients being noisy. Always during the evening though. Most times if a dementia patient is noisy/wandering they have a HCA with them all night or we try to put them in side rooms.

    Slamming doors a lot of times are patients going in and out for ****
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,519
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    Once when I was in hospital I was disturbed by shouting; now the old man clearly had dementia so he couldn't really help it. I think there should be special dementia wards with specialist trained nurses. That might help with shouting/doors slamming in case they walk off.
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