It's called sport. And not just any sport, but it's an Olympic sport.
It's weird that people can spend thousands buying quality archery equipment for sport and no-one questions it. But if you want a gun, "oh noes! There's something wrong with yous".
There's also self-defence of course. And gun is an equaliser. A woman challenging an intruder with a baseball bat is still at the disadvantage, a woman with a gun isn't.
If you want to shoot a gun to make you feel more of a man then join a shooting club. There is absolutely no need for a normal householder to possess a firearm.
Anybody (apart from the obvious professions) who wishes to own a gun is clearly lacking in other areas imo. There is absolutely no need for any normal person to keep a firearm. The less guns there are, the better.
Lots of people enjoy shooting as a hobby and many compete at it as a sport. The wholesale banning of all firemans is not the answer.
If you want to shoot a gun to make you feel more of a man then join a shooting club. There is absolutely no need for a normal householder to possess a firearm.
I didn't realise wanting to defend yourself more effectively had anything to do with manliness.
Only shotguns and rifles holding no more than two rounds are legal. Handguns, semi-auto rifles and auto rifles are all illegal. Self-defence is a good reason for owning a gun (over 60% of Americans with a gun own it for that reason), unfortunately that isn't allowed in the UK (except Northern Ireland).
More Americans feel the need to own guns for self defense because more of their criminals have them. That's not a good argument for making them more available here.
Last night's stand offs between police and rioters were horrible but turning them into gun battles would be much, much worse, for the police, bystanders and local residents.
If you want to shoot a gun to make you feel more of a man then join a shooting club. There is absolutely no need for a normal householder to possess a firearm.
That is rather condescending, you do realise many women enjoy shooting as a hobby.
A person owning a gun and knowing how to use correctly is two different things.
Just because she may have gun doesn't mean it's an advantage.
So unless people are given firearms lessons it could be pointless to own a gun.
IMO the only lesson you need is make sure you can fire stright and train you to fire as soon as you pull out the weapon. Police forces in the US make that recommendation (especially to women) because most men assume a woman won't fire and will try to take the weapon.
More Americans feel the need to own guns for self defense because more of their criminals have them. That's not a good argument for making them more available here.
Last night's stand offs between police and rioters were horrible but turning them into gun battles would be much, much worse, for the police, bystanders and local residents.
I would think twice about looting my local Currys or corner shop if there was a strong possibility I could be shot whilst doing it, armed or not.
If you want to shoot a gun to make you feel more of a man then join a shooting club. There is absolutely no need for a normal householder to possess a firearm.
I can't. Our British Olympic shooters have to travel to Switzerland to train for their sport. I can't afford to travel abroad every time I want to fire a handgun.
More Americans feel the need to own guns for self defense because more of their criminals have them. That's not a good argument for making them more available here.
Last night's stand offs between police and rioters were horrible but turning them into gun battles would be much, much worse, for the police, bystanders and local residents.
The Americans also have less muggings and burglaries because citizens carry weapons.
According to BBC News the rioters are "youths". How many of them are even old enough to even own a gun?
Many of those youths aren't old enough to drink either but don't seem to have a problem getting hold of alcohol.
Switzerland has at least one machine gun in every home containing a male of military age and its total murder rate (that includes gun murders and non-gun murders) is the same as that of the UK.
Alcohol can be bought easily from many corner shops. It can also be easily nicked from a supermarket by youngsters. Guns locked up in specialist shops aren't so easy to get hold of. If they were the "youths" would already be armed with shotguns.
Ah bringing out the rolling eyes emoticon! Wow your incisive argument has totally convinced me...not!
I have not said that women should not fire guns. I have said that guns should be kept in gun clubs, not in people's houses. I stand by that 100% and no amount of condescending, pedantic posts with pathetic emoticons will convince me otherwise.
Ah bringing out the rolling eyes emoticon! Wow your incisive argument has totally convinced me...not!
I have not said that women should not fire guns. I have said that guns should be kept in gun clubs, not in people's houses. I stand by that 100% and no amount of condescending, pedantic posts with pathetic emoticons will convince me otherwise.
I'll say it women should not fire guns!!!
have you seen them try to throw a ball
Switzerland has at least one machine gun in every home containing a male of military age and its total murder rate (that includes gun murders and non-gun murders) is the same as that of the UK.
And because of compulsory military service, they are all trained on how to use one properly.
The danger of guns is that people do not know how to use them, and when push comes to shove , the average person will not shoot to kill even when armed.
You are picking facts that have absolutely no bearing on allowing citizens to purchase guns to try and prove a point.
The US has less muggings per capita because a fair percentage of would be muggings and robberies are written down as murders, primarily because of the proliferation of gun ownership.
Also bear in mind its more likely the attacked who will die in a gunfight than the attacker, a mugger who carries a gun is more likely to be prepared to use it than someone being mugged who bought a gun 'for protection'.
US Statistics show that gun owners are almost twice as likely to die by gunshot than non gun owners, and gun owners are more likely to shoot a friend or relative by accident than they are a criminal.
And because of compulsory military service, they are all trained on how to use one properly.
Which would make them more effective killers if they went on a rampage. Everything has its pros and cons.
The danger of guns is that people do not know how to use them, and when push comes to shove , the average person will not shoot to kill even when armed.
What training does a person realistically need? I would suggest anyone not capable at firing at a person shouldn't pick up a gun in the first place. But it's no reason to deny anyone gun ownership.
The US has less muggings per capita because a fair percentage of would be muggings and robberies are written down as murders, primarily because of the proliferation of gun ownership.
They may play a part but muggings have gone down since 47 of the 50 states have loosened the laws on carrying a gun for personal protection.
Also bear in mind its more likely the attacked who will die in a gunfight than the attacker, a mugger who carries a gun is more likely to be prepared to use it than someone being mugged who bought a gun 'for protection'.
I repeat only someone who will fire a gun should carry one for self-defence. Carrying a gun you won't use is stupid, stupid, stupid. But it's no reason to deny me a gun.
US Statistics show that gun owners are almost twice as likely to die by gunshot than non gun owners, and gun owners are more likely to shoot a friend or relative by accident than they are a criminal.
That's unfortunate but the irresponsibility of others is no reason to deny me (or other responsible adults) a gun.
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If you want to shoot a gun to make you feel more of a man then join a shooting club. There is absolutely no need for a normal householder to possess a firearm.
Lots of people enjoy shooting as a hobby and many compete at it as a sport. The wholesale banning of all firemans is not the answer.
I didn't realise wanting to defend yourself more effectively had anything to do with manliness.
More Americans feel the need to own guns for self defense because more of their criminals have them. That's not a good argument for making them more available here.
Last night's stand offs between police and rioters were horrible but turning them into gun battles would be much, much worse, for the police, bystanders and local residents.
That is rather condescending, you do realise many women enjoy shooting as a hobby.
IMO the only lesson you need is make sure you can fire stright and train you to fire as soon as you pull out the weapon. Police forces in the US make that recommendation (especially to women) because most men assume a woman won't fire and will try to take the weapon.
Exactly.... It's that obvious I thought that's what the OP was suggesting?
I would think twice about looting my local Currys or corner shop if there was a strong possibility I could be shot whilst doing it, armed or not.
I can't. Our British Olympic shooters have to travel to Switzerland to train for their sport. I can't afford to travel abroad every time I want to fire a handgun.
Coming from you that is hilarious. My comment was perfectly valid. Guns should be left in gun clubs, not in people's homes.
Yeah, or you might decide to take your own gun along to shoot first.
The Americans also have less muggings and burglaries because citizens carry weapons.
According to BBC News the rioters are "youths". How many of them are even old enough to even own a gun?
How are their murder rates?
Many of those youths aren't old enough to drink either but don't seem to have a problem getting hold of alcohol.
Switzerland has at least one machine gun in every home containing a male of military age and its total murder rate (that includes gun murders and non-gun murders) is the same as that of the UK.
Alcohol can be bought easily from many corner shops. It can also be easily nicked from a supermarket by youngsters. Guns locked up in specialist shops aren't so easy to get hold of. If they were the "youths" would already be armed with shotguns.
That would be men only gun clubs. :rolleyes:
Ah bringing out the rolling eyes emoticon! Wow your incisive argument has totally convinced me...not!
I have not said that women should not fire guns. I have said that guns should be kept in gun clubs, not in people's houses. I stand by that 100% and no amount of condescending, pedantic posts with pathetic emoticons will convince me otherwise.
I'll say it women should not fire guns!!!
have you seen them try to throw a ball
And because of compulsory military service, they are all trained on how to use one properly.
The danger of guns is that people do not know how to use them, and when push comes to shove , the average person will not shoot to kill even when armed.
You are picking facts that have absolutely no bearing on allowing citizens to purchase guns to try and prove a point.
The US has less muggings per capita because a fair percentage of would be muggings and robberies are written down as murders, primarily because of the proliferation of gun ownership.
Also bear in mind its more likely the attacked who will die in a gunfight than the attacker, a mugger who carries a gun is more likely to be prepared to use it than someone being mugged who bought a gun 'for protection'.
US Statistics show that gun owners are almost twice as likely to die by gunshot than non gun owners, and gun owners are more likely to shoot a friend or relative by accident than they are a criminal.
I am all for protecting yourself and your property by any means neccessary but not by using guns.
Which would make them more effective killers if they went on a rampage. Everything has its pros and cons.
What training does a person realistically need? I would suggest anyone not capable at firing at a person shouldn't pick up a gun in the first place. But it's no reason to deny anyone gun ownership.
They may play a part but muggings have gone down since 47 of the 50 states have loosened the laws on carrying a gun for personal protection.
I repeat only someone who will fire a gun should carry one for self-defence. Carrying a gun you won't use is stupid, stupid, stupid. But it's no reason to deny me a gun.
That's unfortunate but the irresponsibility of others is no reason to deny me (or other responsible adults) a gun.