Hunt said: "I think if you were to discover how people vote at the BBC there are probably more who vote Labour or for the Liberal Democrats than the Conservatives." He also made clear his frustrations with the BBC's decision to broadcast a Panorama programme about corruption at Fifa days before the decision on the 2018 World Cup, saying it had damaged England's bid. "It was a nightmare," he said.
Wait a minute raising a serious and important issue. Is a nightmare. Highlighting stuff like corruption is the model of an excellent psb. The BBC shouldnt be forced to drop potentially embarassing documentaries because they may effect the issue related to what they are investigating.
I think the leftwing bias is justified when you consider the right wing bias of Murdoch's huge media empire!
Ssssssshhhhhhh! You're not meant to say that, old chap! The 'official' line on here is that the Beeb is a model of neutrality!
On a more serious and obvious note: we don't have to pay for Murdoch's media...we do have to pay for the BBC. If I had to pay for the likes of Sky, then I'd want them to be impartial as well.
So I don't have to pay for right wing bias, but I do have to pay for left wing bias. Is that fair?
Ssssssshhhhhhh! You're not meant to say that, old chap! The 'official' line on here is that the Beeb is a model of neutrality!
On a more serious and obvious note: we don't have to pay for Murdoch's media...we do have to pay for the BBC. If I had to pay for the likes of Sky, then I'd want them to be impartial as well.
So I don't have to pay for right wing bias, but I do have to pay for left wing bias. Is that fair?
To prove your point, could you give me an example of left-wing bias from today's broadcasting on the BBC?
Ssssssshhhhhhh! You're not meant to say that, old chap! The 'official' line on here is that the Beeb is a model of neutrality!
On a more serious and obvious note: we don't have to pay for Murdoch's media...we do have to pay for the BBC. If I had to pay for the likes of Sky, then I'd want them to be impartial as well.
So I don't have to pay for right wing bias, but I do have to pay for left wing bias. Is that fair?
Does it really matter if they are left wing? The sort of people who out themselves as right-wing on TV, especially in American, seem to be pretty angry and old fashioned. It just seems like that would be a step backwards for the media. Imagine a TV station powered by the Daily Mail, it would be full of fear.
"I do remember... the corridors of Broadcasting House were strewn with empty champagne bottles. I'll always remember that"
Jane Garvey
BBC Five Live, May 10th, 2007, recalling May 2nd, 1997.
"We need to foster peculiarity, idiosyncrasy, stubborn-mindedness, left-of-centre thinking."
Ben Stephenson
BBC Drama Commissioning Controller
"The BBC is not impartial or neutral. It's a publicly funded, urban organisation with an abnormally large number of young people, ethnic minorities and gay people. It has a liberal bias not so much a party-political bias. It is better expressed as a cultural liberal bias"
He's unhappy because the BBC isn't towing the line like the commercial sector and showing a right wing bias towards the Tories
Yes that Jon Snow (Channel 4), George Galloway (Talk Sport) and Ken Livingstone (LBC). Outrageous right-wing bias from the lot of them.
All media organisations will be made up of people with a broad range of political views and backgrounds, and the BBC is no exception. Their political editor used to be president of the Oxford University Conservative Association.
Tories have known for years aboout the BBC bias - this isn't news to them or anyone.
"The BBC is not impartial or neutral. It's a publicly funded, urban organisation with an abnormally large number of young people, ethnic minorities and gay people. It has a liberal bias not so much a party-political bias. It is better expressed as a cultural liberal bias",
Ironically, (and geuinely true) I've worked some long hours last week and didn't really watch/listen to much telly/radio at all.
In the last month however, I did catch a bit of Andrew Marr's programme a couple of times where he was particularly chummy with Eddie Balls. The other time I saw him he was interviewing Michael Gove. He, obviously, was meant to be challenging both on their respective parties policies, he only managed to really challenge one of those MP's
Can you guess which one?
Marr, of course is a well know labour Luvvy which is fair enough, but perhaps he shouldn't apply his personal bias when conducting interviews. It's unprofessional if anything.
Another prime example would be Nicky Campbell's sunday morning religious show. To be fair this hasn't been on for a while but when it was, the questions posed were deliberately provocative ... and most importantly, one sided. "When did you stop beating your wife" type of questions. Interestingly, whenever a question was posed, that could be considered 'negative' or 'provocative', Nicky seemed to square on his Christian and Jewish guests far more eagerly than his Muslim ones. You often get the impression that that show is almost placing some religions on trial ... not all religions though. Again, can you guess which one didn't get criticised to the same degree as the others?
I tend to watch this show even though I'm an atheist, so I honestly have no vested interest in Christians, or whoever, getting the upper hand over the rest. I only ask for balance. It isn't too much to ask for.
Oh, and finally when one of Call me Dave's aides said something akin to "people are better off than they think", BBC News website had something like the following plastered across its front page: "TORY - YOU'VE NEVER HAD SO GOOD". This, rather provocative and Tabloid-ish headline was soon mysteriously changed to something more subtle however. Can't think why... Now if labour were still in government and making cuts, can you imagine the headline: "LABOUR - YOU'VE NEVER HAD SO GOOD" ... if the words had come from a minor Labour aide (not even an MP)?Nah!
If you're going to ask for specific dates and times then alas (and rather surprisingly) I haven't maintained a list or designed a detailed Powerpoint presentation built around what I've seen...
Biffa, the fact that a highly biased chap like you considers the Beeb to be neutral, proves that it isn't!
With your terminal case of the 'trots', I seriously doubt that you could tolerate an organisation that was truly neutral, do you?
Again, where our resident right-wingers can't back up the case, it comes down to personal insults. You'll have to try harder than that if you want to engage in adult debate with me.
Perhaps the lefties on here could get together and state what the 'official' status of the BBC actually is?
Some seem convinced that there's no bias whilst others appear to say that the Beeb is indeed left wing...but apparantly that's a good thing because Murdoch and the Daily Mail/Fail/Heil/Scale/Tale/Tail/John Cale etc, is all right wing and stuff so the Beebs bias 'balances' things up. Pure 'logic'!
I know diversity in opinion is a good thing (ironically I doubt the Beeb would agree) but the Left on this thread are contradicting each other... it's all so confusing!
Ironically, (and geuinely true) I've worked some long hours last week and didn't really watch/listen to much telly/radio at all.
In the last month however, I did catch a bit of Andrew Marr's programme a couple of times where he was particularly chummy with Eddie Balls. The other time I saw him he was interviewing Michael Gove. He, obviously, was meant to be challenging both on their respective parties policies, he only managed to really challenge one of those MP's
Can you guess which one?
Marr, of course is a well know labour Luvvy which is fair enough, but perhaps he shouldn't apply his personal bias when conducting interviews. It's unprofessional if anything.
Another prime example would be Nicky Campbell's sunday morning religious show. To be fair this hasn't been on for a while but when it was, the questions posed were deliberately provocative ... and most importantly, one sided. "When did you stop beating your wife" type of questions. Interestingly, whenever a question was posed, that could be considered 'negative' or 'provocative', Nicky seemed to square on his Christian and Jewish guests far more eagerly than his Muslim ones. You often get the impression that that show is almost placing some religions on trial ... not all religions though. Again, can you guess which one didn't get criticised to the same degree as the others?
I tend to watch this show even though I'm an atheist, so I honestly have no vested interest in Christians, or whoever, getting the upper hand over the rest. I only ask for balance. It isn't too much to ask for.
Oh, and finally when one of Call me Dave's aides said something akin to "people are better off than they think", BBC News website had something like the following plastered across its front page: "TORY - YOU'VE NEVER HAD SO GOOD". This, rather provocative and Tabloid-ish headline was soon mysteriously changed to something more subtle however. Can't think why... Now if labour were still in government and making cuts, can you imagine the headline: "LABOUR - YOU'VE NEVER HAD SO GOOD" ... if the words had come from a minor Labour aide (not even an MP)?Nah!
If you're going to ask for specific dates and times then alas (and rather surprisingly) I haven't maintained a list or designed a detailed Powerpoint presentation built around what I've seen...
It is very easy to highlight isolated examples of perceived left-wing bias. No doubt the left could show some 'right-wing BBC bias'. Truth is there is probably some of both. Programmes are made by people and they have political views - left, right or centre.
If the BBC is as you say, then why do they advertise most of their jobs in the Guardian? You'd have thought that a "slightly right wing" organisation would use the likes of the Telegraph instead, no?
No.
Media jobs have always been advertised in the Guardian because they have a media section. Same way as Education jobs get advertised in the Times.
And unless someone can actually produce any evidence (as opposed to just quoting other people claiming it is biased) then I don't think we can take this seriously at all.
Media jobs have always been advertised in the Guardian because they have a media section. Same way as Education jobs get advertised in the Times.
Then perhaps the likes of the Telegraph et al could be missing out on some prime business from the Beeb by not having a media job section.
If they started one, offering competitive rates for advertising BBC jobs, do you think the corporation would switch over to them? Mind you if they did they might get candidates that vote tory (horror of horror's)...this is the 'Torygraph' we're talking about after all.
No, keep with the left wing Guardian, then at least all prospective job candidates will be guaranteed 'politically neutral' .
the coalition government has not done anything labour would not have done if it had won the election.. the left wing bias versus right wing bias argument is as old as the hills.. the bbc is pro-establishment and always will be..
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Wait a minute raising a serious and important issue. Is a nightmare. Highlighting stuff like corruption is the model of an excellent psb. The BBC shouldnt be forced to drop potentially embarassing documentaries because they may effect the issue related to what they are investigating.
Ssssssshhhhhhh! You're not meant to say that, old chap! The 'official' line on here is that the Beeb is a model of neutrality!
On a more serious and obvious note: we don't have to pay for Murdoch's media...we do have to pay for the BBC. If I had to pay for the likes of Sky, then I'd want them to be impartial as well.
So I don't have to pay for right wing bias, but I do have to pay for left wing bias. Is that fair?
To prove your point, could you give me an example of left-wing bias from today's broadcasting on the BBC?
Afraid not as I've been on teh internet all day and so the telly (and radio) are switched off.
Nice try.
In the last week then.
What left wing bias would that be?
The BBC are quite clearly very left wing and PC, and definetly are not inpartial like they are meant to be.
Examples please from recent weeks.
By the way, it is IMPARTIAL and DEFINITELY.
"I do remember... the corridors of Broadcasting House were strewn with empty champagne bottles. I'll always remember that"
Jane Garvey
BBC Five Live, May 10th, 2007, recalling May 2nd, 1997.
"We need to foster peculiarity, idiosyncrasy, stubborn-mindedness, left-of-centre thinking."
Ben Stephenson
BBC Drama Commissioning Controller
"The BBC is not impartial or neutral. It's a publicly funded, urban organisation with an abnormally large number of young people, ethnic minorities and gay people. It has a liberal bias not so much a party-political bias. It is better expressed as a cultural liberal bias"
Andrew Marr
Yes that Jon Snow (Channel 4), George Galloway (Talk Sport) and Ken Livingstone (LBC). Outrageous right-wing bias from the lot of them.
All media organisations will be made up of people with a broad range of political views and backgrounds, and the BBC is no exception. Their political editor used to be president of the Oxford University Conservative Association.
I suppose you could say that about the BBC's luvvie boat on the Thames during this year's general election.
"The BBC is not impartial or neutral. It's a publicly funded, urban organisation with an abnormally large number of young people, ethnic minorities and gay people. It has a liberal bias not so much a party-political bias. It is better expressed as a cultural liberal bias",
Andrew Marr
the Daily Mail, Oct 21st, 2006.
Ironically, (and geuinely true) I've worked some long hours last week and didn't really watch/listen to much telly/radio at all.
In the last month however, I did catch a bit of Andrew Marr's programme a couple of times where he was particularly chummy with Eddie Balls. The other time I saw him he was interviewing Michael Gove. He, obviously, was meant to be challenging both on their respective parties policies, he only managed to really challenge one of those MP's
Can you guess which one?
Marr, of course is a well know labour Luvvy which is fair enough, but perhaps he shouldn't apply his personal bias when conducting interviews. It's unprofessional if anything.
Another prime example would be Nicky Campbell's sunday morning religious show. To be fair this hasn't been on for a while but when it was, the questions posed were deliberately provocative ... and most importantly, one sided. "When did you stop beating your wife" type of questions. Interestingly, whenever a question was posed, that could be considered 'negative' or 'provocative', Nicky seemed to square on his Christian and Jewish guests far more eagerly than his Muslim ones. You often get the impression that that show is almost placing some religions on trial ... not all religions though. Again, can you guess which one didn't get criticised to the same degree as the others?
I tend to watch this show even though I'm an atheist, so I honestly have no vested interest in Christians, or whoever, getting the upper hand over the rest. I only ask for balance. It isn't too much to ask for.
Oh, and finally when one of Call me Dave's aides said something akin to "people are better off than they think", BBC News website had something like the following plastered across its front page: "TORY - YOU'VE NEVER HAD SO GOOD". This, rather provocative and Tabloid-ish headline was soon mysteriously changed to something more subtle however. Can't think why... Now if labour were still in government and making cuts, can you imagine the headline: "LABOUR - YOU'VE NEVER HAD SO GOOD" ... if the words had come from a minor Labour aide (not even an MP)?Nah!
If you're going to ask for specific dates and times then alas (and rather surprisingly) I haven't maintained a list or designed a detailed Powerpoint presentation built around what I've seen...
Again, where our resident right-wingers can't back up the case, it comes down to personal insults. You'll have to try harder than that if you want to engage in adult debate with me.
Perhaps the lefties on here could get together and state what the 'official' status of the BBC actually is?
Some seem convinced that there's no bias whilst others appear to say that the Beeb is indeed left wing...but apparantly that's a good thing because Murdoch and the Daily Mail/Fail/Heil/Scale/Tale/Tail/John Cale etc, is all right wing and stuff so the Beebs bias 'balances' things up. Pure 'logic'!
I know diversity in opinion is a good thing (ironically I doubt the Beeb would agree) but the Left on this thread are contradicting each other... it's all so confusing!
It is very easy to highlight isolated examples of perceived left-wing bias. No doubt the left could show some 'right-wing BBC bias'. Truth is there is probably some of both. Programmes are made by people and they have political views - left, right or centre.
No.
Media jobs have always been advertised in the Guardian because they have a media section. Same way as Education jobs get advertised in the Times.
Hush.. don't point things like that out. Otherwise they'll have nothing to criticise 'lefties' and 'leftists' about!
And unless someone can actually produce any evidence (as opposed to just quoting other people claiming it is biased) then I don't think we can take this seriously at all.
Then perhaps the likes of the Telegraph et al could be missing out on some prime business from the Beeb by not having a media job section.
If they started one, offering competitive rates for advertising BBC jobs, do you think the corporation would switch over to them? Mind you if they did they might get candidates that vote tory (horror of horror's)...this is the 'Torygraph' we're talking about after all.
No, keep with the left wing Guardian, then at least all prospective job candidates will be guaranteed 'politically neutral'