Daily Mail is quick to report on the "criminal" activities of Russell Brand, Jonathan Ross, Carol Thatcher - the parents of the children who starred in a Channel 4 series...
Yet they gave away a free DVD this Saturday of The Dam Busters. This is a movie in which someone's pet dog, who happens to be black - is named "N****r". It has been dubbed as "trigger" in newer versions, but the Mail still gave away the uncut edition with the ethnic slur. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgePEO7GUtE
Let's get this all into perspective.
Its thanks to the Dambusters - and other people that fought against the Nazis - you have the right to post on this forum. If the Germans had won the war most Jews, black people, gays and travellers would have been gassed to death in concentration camps. That's real racism - not some throw away line in a movie which is fifty years old!
I for one therefore will not allow political correctness from the pampered of today to prevent people learning about how and why we have the freedoms we have - as well as the horrors that were prevented by people like those who fought in the Dambusters raid.
Its thanks to the Dambusters - and other people that fought against the Nazis - you have the right to post on this forum. If the Germans had won the war most Jews, black people, gays and travellers would have been gassed to death in concentration camps. That's real racism - not some throw away line in a movie which is fifty years old!
So what you're saying is it's ok to use the word "n****r" at any opportunity? Because we won the war?
Its thanks to the Dambusters - and other people that fought against the Nazis - you have the right to post on this forum. If the Germans had won the war most Jews, black people, gays and travellers would have been gassed to death in concentration camps. That's real racism - not some throw away line in a movie which is fifty years old!
I for one therefore will not allow political correctness from the pampered of today to prevent people learning about how and why we have the freedoms we have - as well as the horrors that were prevented by people like those who fought in the Dambusters raid.
But if the Germans had rid the world of all those minority groups then there would be no need for what you call "political correctness" therefor leaving us freer.
Its thanks to the Dambusters - and other people that fought against the Nazis - you have the right to post on this forum. If the Germans had won the war most Jews, black people, gays and travellers would have been gassed to death in concentration camps. That's real racism - not some throw away line in a movie which is fifty years old!
I for one therefore will not allow political correctness from the pampered of today to prevent people learning about how and why we have the freedoms we have - as well as the horrors that were prevented by people like those who fought in the Dambusters raid.
I don't agree.
Racism starts and escalates with 'throw away lines.'
And freedom of speech works both ways, or are you suggesting that the 'PC Brigade' should not be able to exercise theirs?
So what you're saying is it's ok to use the word "n****r" at any opportunity? Because we won the war?
What I am saying its you need to put things into perspective. You are effectively saying ban an entire film from 50 years ago which celebrates defeating evil vicious racist genocidal murderers because there is one racist word used in it. Get a grip and some perspective!
What I am saying its you need to put things into perspective. You are effectively saying ban an entire film from 50 years ago which celebrates defeating evil vicious racist genocidal murderers because there is one racist word used in it. Get a grip and some perspective!
...Or alternatively, as the OP actually says, they could use the otherwise-identical version where the dog's name has been changed.
What was that you were saying about perspective?!
(You do know most of the German army were just normal people, right? And, for that matter, what "ban" means?)
I can't understand the animosity on here towards this paper.
You can't be trying very hard then.
As long as you aren't black, Muslim, gay, a single mother, a liberal, an immigrant, a student, in an unmarried relationship, a teenager, or fat, then the DM is definitely the paper for you. Otherwise don't bother.
Now, that may not have been deliberate, but someone at the Mail made an error of judgment or was lax in their security, allowing it to be "published". Someone should be suspended for three months, really. And the buck should stop right at the top. Filth, I tell you! Filth!
As long as you aren't black, Muslim, gay, a single mother, an immigrant, a student, in an unmarried relationship, a teenager, or fat, then the DM is definitely the paper for you. Otherwise don't bother.
Unless you're likely to be scared by being told that 99% of the things you do in your daily life will definitely give you cancer.
Bloody daft all this about words becoming offensive. It is only a crazy minority who create these situations. I am not offended by 'golliwog' or '******'. The latter is a colour - a shade of brown, where's the problem? My skin is pinkish, call me pinky if you want to. No-one chose to be the colour they are and as far as I am concerned, it doesn't matter - we are all human beings. (Well, most of us are anyway). Let's remember, human life began in what is now Africa, so we are all decended from black parentage.
The dog in the original film was called '******', so what - it's a dog anyway. And editing Enid Blyton's books for using similar words s ludicrous, they should remain as written, why change them? That to me is far more offensive as is the thought that I am being controlled by a few fanatics and cannot read what I want to.
Bloody daft all this about words becoming offensive. It is only a crazy minority who create these situations. I am not offended by 'golliwog' or '******'. The latter is a colour - a shade of brown, where's the problem? My skin is pinkish, call me pinky if you want to. No-one chose to be the colour they are and as far as I am concerned, it doesn't matter - we are all human beings. (Well, most of us are anyway). Let's remember, human life began in what is now Africa, so we are all decended from black parentage.
The dog in the original film was called '******', so what - it's a dog anyway. And editing Enid Blyton's books for using similar words s ludicrous, they should remain as written, why change them? That to me is far more offensive as is the thought that I am being controlled by a few fanatics and cannot read what I want to.
Excuse me, who edited my reply and why? Big brother exists! Dual standards here, why allow one word and not the other, when both words should not be censored anyway?
Excuse me, who edited my reply and why? Big brother exists! Dual standards here, why allow one word and not the other, when both words should not be censored anyway?
Just tell the moderators you are a gangsta rapper from a deprived estate in south London - you'll be able to use this word all you want then while also making nasty homophobic comments at the same time.:rolleyes:
Never mind the Daily Mail, the Sunday Post has a character named Fat Bob in the Oor Wullie strip. Shock, horror! Mind you it is a decent family paper published in Scotland where I guess there is more common sense - or have I opened another can of worms...?
In this day and age, the n-word is used quite a bit by the race it is supposedly racist against - even when it is used as a term of endearment. So make your minds up people, stop the stupid double standards.
I am surprised therefore that within a few days you started this thread, perhaps you are winding everyone up, perhaps you have some logic to your position. Has it changed?
Kirkfnw only a few days ago you where saying on another thread in the context of the n***** word;
also;
I am surprised therefore that within a few days you started this thread, perhaps you are winding everyone up, perhaps you have some logic to your position. Has it changed?
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Let's get this all into perspective.
Its thanks to the Dambusters - and other people that fought against the Nazis - you have the right to post on this forum. If the Germans had won the war most Jews, black people, gays and travellers would have been gassed to death in concentration camps. That's real racism - not some throw away line in a movie which is fifty years old!
I for one therefore will not allow political correctness from the pampered of today to prevent people learning about how and why we have the freedoms we have - as well as the horrors that were prevented by people like those who fought in the Dambusters raid.
So what you're saying is it's ok to use the word "n****r" at any opportunity? Because we won the war?
But if the Germans had rid the world of all those minority groups then there would be no need for what you call "political correctness" therefor leaving us freer.
I don't agree.
Racism starts and escalates with 'throw away lines.'
And freedom of speech works both ways, or are you suggesting that the 'PC Brigade' should not be able to exercise theirs?
That was how it was then but, thankfully, it is not that way now.
We have evolved the language and our sensibilities.
What I am saying its you need to put things into perspective. You are effectively saying ban an entire film from 50 years ago which celebrates defeating evil vicious racist genocidal murderers because there is one racist word used in it. Get a grip and some perspective!
What was that you were saying about perspective?!
(You do know most of the German army were just normal people, right? And, for that matter, what "ban" means?)
You can't be trying very hard then.
As long as you aren't black, Muslim, gay, a single mother, a liberal, an immigrant, a student, in an unmarried relationship, a teenager, or fat, then the DM is definitely the paper for you. Otherwise don't bother.
However, while we're on the subject of the Mail's hypocrisy, let's not forget that last week their front page linked to a graphic picture of a man's distended anus! (Safe link- just goes to DS thread discussing the accidental Goatse).
Now, that may not have been deliberate, but someone at the Mail made an error of judgment or was lax in their security, allowing it to be "published". Someone should be suspended for three months, really. And the buck should stop right at the top. Filth, I tell you! Filth!
Unless you're likely to be scared by being told that 99% of the things you do in your daily life will definitely give you cancer.
The dog in the original film was called '******', so what - it's a dog anyway. And editing Enid Blyton's books for using similar words s ludicrous, they should remain as written, why change them? That to me is far more offensive as is the thought that I am being controlled by a few fanatics and cannot read what I want to.
Excuse me, who edited my reply and why? Big brother exists! Dual standards here, why allow one word and not the other, when both words should not be censored anyway?
Just tell the moderators you are a gangsta rapper from a deprived estate in south London - you'll be able to use this word all you want then while also making nasty homophobic comments at the same time.:rolleyes:
The silent majority you speak of, who apparently believe that finding certain words offensive is daft, is usually just a noisy minority.
Most decent folk would happily refrain from using a handful of expressions which are considered racial slurs.
If I called you "******" as a nickname would that be acceptable then? Because it's only a pseudonym?
No, the word should never be used.
Jesus wept
We are talking about a 50 year old film.
It's like pretending Hitler never existed, because he was also offensive.
also;
I am surprised therefore that within a few days you started this thread, perhaps you are winding everyone up, perhaps you have some logic to your position. Has it changed?
Where are you coming from, do you know?
The Daily Mail would love that as then they could pretend that they didn't support him.
Did they really do that or is it an urban myth?
We're talking about a dog, which makes the racist argument ridiculous.
Perhaps the OPs recent and very rapid conversion to the importance of racially sensitive language has made him over enthusiatic to the cause.
See my post #71 above.
on the other hand perhaps you are all being wound up.
Well caught out!