Is Britain still pro-monarchy?

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  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 927
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    The queen has failed to fulfil some of the few obligations she does have, in particular as "defender of the faith." The political content of some of her speeches is out of order as well imo.

    Clearly she will say, do, or approve anything to avoid any trouble for herself. It's hard to respect that kind of monarch.

    I resent our money continuing to be fed to them.
  • vanzandtfanvanzandtfan Posts: 8,897
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    Would she have been able to stop the security forces and intelligence agencies from bringing down an elected government as what almost happen in the seventies with Wilson I believe? I don't believe she could have done anything in fact I reckon she would have enjoyed supporting the destabilising on an elected socialist government.

    And there is nothing preventing Cameron or the government and House of Commons from scrapping the monarchy if the desired, they enact legislation on behalf of the people who chose them but sadly too many are in awe of a rather dysfunctional bunch of rather low IQ idiots.

    According to a biography of Mountbatten, who was set to lead the government that was planned to replace Wilson, it was the queens advice that led him to withdraw from the plan.

    Edit - and your second point is simply incorrect, any legislation must get royal ascent, so the monarch could refuse it. The result would likely be an election on the issue.
  • GneissGneiss Posts: 14,555
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    Contrary to popular belief, I would say that the UK is not particularly pro-monarchy and that you are far more likely to hear people criticising them than revering them in any way.

    Yes but guesswork doesn't count....

    Every published survey I've seen is in favour by quite a large majority. Do you have a link to one that suggests otherwise?
  • Joey_JJoey_J Posts: 5,146
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    I am pro Monachy

    Can't really say I know anyone who isn't tbh
  • GneissGneiss Posts: 14,555
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    Joey_J wrote: »
    I am pro Monachy

    On the whole so am I...

    I really like Will and Kate they seem a nice genuine couple unlike some of the shams we have seen in the past.
  • woot_whoowoot_whoo Posts: 18,030
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    Gneiss wrote: »
    On the whole so am I...

    I really like Will and Kate they seem a nice genuine couple unlike some of the shams we have seen in the past.

    Being a monarchist isn't about the individuals involved - it's about supporting the idea of a herditary head of state regardless of who the actual people are.
  • Pisces CloudPisces Cloud Posts: 30,239
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    I'm not. I think most people are probably indifferent. A referendum on the subject would be interesting, though.
  • HotgossipHotgossip Posts: 22,385
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    I was what you could call a monarchist but in the last three years have changed my opinion, I don't like the fact that I will work till I'm near seventy, retire with a shitty pension and most likely die in poverty while the Royals live long and continue to enjoy heat,travel and no money worries at taxpayers expense.

    The fact that most of them are despicable freeloaders irks me a lot, I found it rather insulting seeing three of them supposedly filling sand bags for flood victims, I sent money to help out a relative affected by floods so she could buy essentials so why could they not drop a few quid into the areas affected.

    I cannot even vent my true opinion on the younger royals as my DS holiday would be permanent but was there any need for the boring baldy to appear at a awards ceremony last week, someone should tell the brat the will never be viewed as one of us.

    I support the idea of a referendum on the issue to settle the debate for at least a generation, opinion polls ask loaded questions so if the question is worded right then you get the right result hence why I don't trust any opinion poll.

    Pretty much how I feel, except I've never been keen on them. I was asked to help take some kids on a school visit once to see Princess Di opening a swimming pool. I just couldn't get all the bowing and scraping and massive excitement by some people.

    The younger royals in particular are a real waste of space. Ginger and Baldy last week saying they just wanted to get on with their flood duties, unnoticed. So why did they wear different clothes to everyone else. They stood out like sore thumbs. :D:D

    All that fuss over KMs Morning sickness .... "This is no ordinary morning sickness." :D:D that really did make me want to vomit.;-)
  • irishfeenirishfeen Posts: 10,025
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    Joey_J wrote: »
    I am pro Monachy

    Can't really say I know anyone who isn't tbh
    Why do you agree that people should have the "right" to be born in to wealth and position?? ... imo its a ridiculous way to see humanity - everyone should born equal in every country.
  • Watcher #1Watcher #1 Posts: 9,043
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    I'm not. I think most people are probably indifferent. A referendum on the subject would be interesting, though.

    Given the opinion polls, we would keep the monarchy, comfortably.

    Change takes time
  • emptyboxemptybox Posts: 13,917
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    irishfeen wrote: »
    Why do you agree that people should have the "right" to be born in to wealth and position?? ... imo its a ridiculous way to see humanity - everyone should born equal in every country.

    Communism is against human nature and instinct, so is unlikely ever to work.
  • TouristaTourista Posts: 14,338
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    irishfeen wrote: »
    Why do you agree that people should have the "right" to be born in to wealth and position?? ... imo its a ridiculous way to see humanity - everyone should born equal in every country.

    Ah, utopia where are you?....

    No place.
  • Rowan HedgeRowan Hedge Posts: 3,861
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    According to a biography of Mountbatten, who was set to lead the government that was planned to replace Wilson, it was the queens advice that led him to withdraw from the plan.

    Edit - and your second point is simply incorrect, any legislation must get royal ascent, so the monarch could refuse it. The result would likely be an election on the issue.

    The mere fact she was in the loop regarding the possible coup makes her unsuitable as HoS,
  • Rowan HedgeRowan Hedge Posts: 3,861
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    Watcher #1 wrote: »
    Given the opinion polls, we would keep the monarchy, comfortably.

    Change takes time

    In every opinion poll conducted the questions are always loaded in order to get the right polling results, I worked for Mori to supplement my income during my training and I know a lot of tricks they use to get the right result. For instance they use the same sample of people rather than randoms as it saves time and money,
  • deltadelta Posts: 1,179
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    irishfeen wrote: »
    Why do you agree that people should have the "right" to be born in to wealth and position?? ... imo its a ridiculous way to see humanity - everyone should born equal in every country.

    Tell that to dictators!
  • deltadelta Posts: 1,179
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    I was what you could call a monarchist but in the last three years have changed my opinion, I don't like the fact that I will work till I'm near seventy, retire with a shitty pension and most likely die in poverty while the Royals live long and continue to enjoy heat,travel and no money worries at taxpayers expense.

    The fact that most of them are despicable freeloaders irks me a lot, I found it rather insulting seeing three of them supposedly filling sand bags for flood victims, I sent money to help out a relative affected by floods so she could buy essentials so why could they not drop a few quid into the areas affected.

    I cannot even vent my true opinion on the younger royals as my DS holiday would be permanent but was there any need for the boring baldy to appear at a awards ceremony last week, someone should tell the brat the will never be viewed as one of us.

    I support the idea of a referendum on the issue to settle the debate for at least a generation, opinion polls ask loaded questions so if the question is worded right then you get the right result hence why I don't trust any opinion poll.

    The Queen is still working at 88!
  • woot_whoowoot_whoo Posts: 18,030
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    delta wrote: »
    The Queen is still working at 88!

    Ah, the British monarchy. Working people to death since 1603.
  • charliesayscharliesays Posts: 1,367
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    I'd say the vast majority of the country couldn't actually give a shiny shite one way or the other, with a few extremists at each end of the spectrum.

    With such lethargy the monarchy won't be going anywhere soon.

    This response could be copied and pasted to the same question asked about religion, the licence fee.....
  • GneissGneiss Posts: 14,555
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    woot_whoo wrote: »
    Being a monarchist isn't about the individuals involved - it's about supporting the idea of a herditary head of state regardless of who the actual people are.
    Thanks for that stunning revelation...

    However it doesn't negate your liking or disliking of the individuals concerned! Just as I couldn't stand the sight of or anything about "The People's Pricess" I happen to like Kate and Will.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 39
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    Personally I think we should ship the lot of them to America, they like them a lot more than us Brits.
  • 3Sheets2TheWind3Sheets2TheWind Posts: 3,028
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    Hoffmister wrote: »
    Prince Charles shaking Maccabees hand was a great example of that

    Who?

    Or do you mean Robert Mugabe?

    If so, I think Jack Straw shook his hand as well.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 7,888
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    Half British. Lived here nearly all my life. Don't care about the monarchy. I'm literally so indifferent. My dad isn't British and my mum only likes Harry because "he doesn't care,"

    I wanted William and Kate to announce they were GoT fans and name their kid Joffrey just because I'm easily amused but aside from that I couldn't care less.
  • SemieroticSemierotic Posts: 11,131
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    Most of us are completely indifferent to the Monarchy. That's why it prevails.
  • woot_whoowoot_whoo Posts: 18,030
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    Gneiss wrote: »
    Thanks for that stunning revelation...

    However it doesn't negate your liking or disliking of the individuals concerned! Just as I couldn't stand the sight of or anything about "The People's Pricess" I happen to like Kate and Will.

    And the point is it doesn't matter a jot whether you like them or not. I oppose the idea of hereditary monarchy, but I rather like Anne. A prospective monarch could be the most affable, likeable chap or lady in the world and it wouldn't make a difference to my opposition to the hereditary principle.

    Yet we still see people waxing lyrical about how lovely Wills and Kate are, how down to earth, etc - as though liking the individuals and supporting the system is the same thing. Even if the pair were complete twunts, monarchists would be duty bound to support their place in the constitution. Otherwise they wouldn't be monarchists.
  • RhumbatuggerRhumbatugger Posts: 85,713
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    woot_whoo wrote: »
    And the point is it doesn't matter a jot whether you like them or not. I oppose the idea of hereditary monarchy, but I rather like Anne. A prospective monarch could be the most affable, likeable chap or lady in the world and it wouldn't make a difference to my opposition to the hereditary principle.

    Yet we still see people waxing lyrical about how lovely Wills and Kate are, how down to earth, etc - as though liking the individuals and supporting the system is the same thing. Even if the pair were complete twunts, monarchists would be duty bound to support their place in the constitution. Otherwise they wouldn't be monarchists.

    Well, you can work on losing the monarchy when Scotland gets independence.

    Most are fine with it.
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