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Opemipo Jaji guilty of raping girl

Keiō LineKeiō Line Posts: 12,979
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A man has been convicted of raping an 11-year-old girl in north London.

Opemipo Jaji, 18, of Edmonton, had denied dragging the girl into Jubilee Park, Enfield, before attacking her in November
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-22183589

A horrific case. His history of crimes and the lenient sentences.

My concern is that sexual crimes against girls is now so common anything other than rape is treated with a shrug of the shoulders.

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    glitterlady08glitterlady08 Posts: 3,032
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    How awful, Poor girl, she'll be psychologicaly scared for life now....:(
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    doom&gloomdoom&gloom Posts: 9,051
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    Another Nigerian, it seems they commit a fair proportion of serious crime in London, particularly against women and girls.

    How do so many get into the country into the first place, I wouldn't have thought they'd be able to claim asylum?

    It looks to me that the people in charge in this country have any sense whatsoever, with regard to both immigration and sentencing.
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    Keiō LineKeiō Line Posts: 12,979
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    The evidence against him was overwhelming but he still pleading "not guilty" causing the family more grief.

    I have just seen this on the BBC site relating to an earlier sexual assault against a 12 year old girl.
    But he had been convicted of attacking the 12-year-old in 2011 and was sentenced to be detained at a youth offenders centre for 10 months.
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    He was ordered to pay £15 to the victim.

    WTF?? £15
    Does that not make the attack a 1000 times worse? For the law to accept the crime took place and to think that £15 "covered it".
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    doom&gloomdoom&gloom Posts: 9,051
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    There's a lot of questions that need to be answered, like why 10 months when it should have been 10 years and why he wasn't deported after that first offence because he's a foreign national and it's hardly a petty crime.

    Other countries like the U.S. and Australia would have deported him but we never seem to be able to do the same, or the idiot authorities are unwilling to do it.
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    Keiō LineKeiō Line Posts: 12,979
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    I don't know his current status, but he was Nigerian born. I don't find it unreasonable to specify that you can lose permission to stay or citizenship if you commit a serious crime.
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    doom&gloomdoom&gloom Posts: 9,051
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    Maybe he was under 18 at the time, he certainly should be deported at the end of his sentence for this crime.
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    Keiō LineKeiō Line Posts: 12,979
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    doom&gloom wrote: »
    Maybe he was under 18 at the time, he certainly should be deported at the end of his sentence for this crime.

    If he committed the crime he should have been deported no matter what his age.
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    sutiesutie Posts: 32,645
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    Keiō Line wrote: »
    I don't know his current status, but he was Nigerian born. I don't find it unreasonable to specify that you can lose permission to stay or citizenship if you commit a serious crime.



    I'd go one step further, and insist that people who are allowed to stay, or offered citizenship, be required to sign a contract stating that should they commit anything other than a very minor offense, they accept that they will be expelled from this country without leave to appeal.
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    doom&gloomdoom&gloom Posts: 9,051
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    Keiō Line wrote: »
    If he committed the crime he should have been deported no matter what his age.

    It doesn't seem to work like that over here, it's all "human rights" and "right to a family life" but foreign nationals who commit serious crimes like sexual assault, robbery and rape should certainly be deported.
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    Victoria SpongeVictoria Sponge Posts: 16,645
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    sutie wrote: »
    I'd go one step further, and insist that people who are allowed to stay, or offered citizenship, be required to sign a contract stating that should they commit anything other than a very minor offense, they accept that they will be expelled from this country without leave to appeal.
    I think that's totally reasonable. Why the UK wants to harbour sick f*cks like this is beyond me.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 480
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    I think deportation after serving their sentence is the only answer for sick individuals like this. Citizenship should be a privilege not a right.
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    Regis MagnaeRegis Magnae Posts: 6,810
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    Keiō Line wrote: »
    WTF?? £15
    Does that not make the attack a 1000 times worse? For the law to accept the crime took place and to think that £15 "covered it".

    I agree. It's a pathetic punishment for such a seriously damaging crime.

    Much is said about the poor rate of victims coming forward and the poor rate of conviction. No wonder some victims feel it a futile effort to report the crime committed against them when even a successful conviction result in such minor penalties and punishments.
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    bspacebspace Posts: 14,303
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    doom&gloom wrote: »
    It doesn't seem to work like that over here, it's all "human rights" and "right to a family life" but foreign nationals who commit serious crimes like sexual assault, robbery and rape should certainly be deported.

    yeh, the only people who don't appear to have "human rights" and "right to a family life"
    are the victims of violent crimes
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    crabstercrabster Posts: 653
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    I posted on this earlier in another thread.

    He should have been locked up properly the first time.

    The £15 fine is just pathetic.

    Justice needs to sway back to protecting society from such people and punishing the defendant rather than just rehabilitating the defendant.

    A crime like this should get a long time locked away. No matter how "rehabilitated" you appear half way through. Ok fine you have been rehabilitated and you probably won't do it again, now the rest of your time in prison can be spent regretting what you did.

    He's been given a life sentence now, Be shocked if he serves more than 15 years.

    Are judges at all in touch with what the rest of the population want?
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    Jimmy ConnorsJimmy Connors Posts: 117,889
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    How awful, Poor girl, she'll be psychologicaly scared for life now....:(

    This is an horrific case. The poor girl required surgery after the attack. :(:( I hope they sentence him for a very long time. I doubt he'll have any easy time in prison.
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    GAZ237GAZ237 Posts: 863
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    Everyone who goes to court for any offence has to pay the surcharge of £15 its a standard charge.

    the money all goes into a single pot and i expect the victim in this case got paid a hell of a lot more.
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    talentedmonkeytalentedmonkey Posts: 2,639
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    We can not deport anyone who is not white, nor can we give them harsh penal sentances out of the fear it will spark race riots and bombings.
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    stash22stash22 Posts: 5,370
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    I remember this case, as I live in North London they were appealing for information at the time, I'm glad they managed to catch him.
    The evidence against him was so strong - filmed on the same bus, text sent from his phone tracked to this spot, fingerprints on her travelcard, her blood on his belongings and clothes, lack of alibi, previous conviction for a similar attack, evidence of interest in child pornography, been identified by the victim; he must have been advised that there was a very strong chance he would be found guilty but yet still came up with nonsense excuses and pathetic alibi in doing so put this 11 year old through the whole ordeal of a trial when he was always going to be found guilty.
    I cant understand the previous sentencing and surely a condition of release should involve any re offending - such as the incident images he was arrested for - should result in an automatic prison sentence.
    What exactly happens sex offenders treatment programme?
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    Biffo the BearBiffo the Bear Posts: 25,859
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    Should cut off his knackers to stop it happening again.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 717
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    He is 18 now but one question will be how old he was when he came to the UK. The other big question will be why his behaviour was not better controlled by the authorities given the history listed by the BBC. Being Nigerian does not automatically make someone a criminal and the numbers of Nigerians who commit crimes might be in proportion to their numbers in the population. It would be interesting to see if the press over-report crimes by foreigners, whether black, brown or East European.
    BBC wrote:
    An additional count of rape and one of attempted rape was requested to lie on his file ... he had pleaded guilty to previously sexually assaulting a 12-year-old girl in 2011.

    In May 2012, he appeared before magistrates accused of having indecent images of children on his MP4 player after 600 images of girls were discovered on the device ... in September he pleaded guilty to an offence of making an indecent photograph of a child, and was given a community sentence.
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    DinkyDoobieDinkyDoobie Posts: 17,786
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    Keiō Line wrote: »
    The evidence against him was overwhelming but he still pleading "not guilty" causing the family more grief.

    I have just seen this on the BBC site relating to an earlier sexual assault against a 12 year old girl.


    WTF?? £15
    Does that not make the attack a 1000 times worse? For the law to accept the crime took place and to think that £15 "covered it".

    The victim surcharge is something they make everyone pay

    http://sentencingcouncil.judiciary.gov.uk/sentencing/victim-surcharge.htm
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 32,379
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    crabster wrote: »
    I posted on this earlier in another thread.

    He should have been locked up properly the first time.

    The £15 fine is just pathetic.

    Justice needs to sway back to protecting society from such people and punishing the defendant rather than just rehabilitating the defendant.

    A crime like this should get a long time locked away. No matter how "rehabilitated" you appear half way through. Ok fine you have been rehabilitated and you probably won't do it again, now the rest of your time in prison can be spent regretting what you did.

    He's been given a life sentence now, Be shocked if he serves more than 15 years.

    Are judges at all in touch with what the rest of the population want?

    He hasn't been sentenced yet. If he has been given UK citizenship it should have it revoked and sent home.

    Sentencing is due to take place on 7 June. Mr Justice Singh told the court that a life sentence was an option.
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    warszawawarszawa Posts: 4,437
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    Castration > Deportation. He should serve his sentence where he came from. Minus his bits.
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    ElyanElyan Posts: 8,781
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    Society - especially this poor young girl - failed again by the do-gooders in the courts, the probation services and the parole board.

    How anyone can think serving five months is anywhere near enough for kidnapping a child, stripping them naked, stuffing their school tie in their mouth and sexually assaulting them, is way beyond me.

    That was just one of the string of perverted previous offences he committed.
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    Pumping IronPumping Iron Posts: 29,891
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    sutie wrote: »
    I'd go one step further, and insist that people who are allowed to stay, or offered citizenship, be required to sign a contract stating that should they commit anything other than a very minor offense, they accept that they will be expelled from this country without leave to appeal.

    Sounds like a good idea to me.
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